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    2019 Razer Blade 17

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by rickybambi, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. falkio

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    Mine had only the primary functions lit up. Unfortunately. German layout, RBP 17 2019.
     
  2. rinneh

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    If you fully clone the drive, it would mean in theory that the recovery parition is also being cloned. If you after cloning remove the old one. you should be able to boot from the new drive. But if oyu keep th eold one you have to adjust the link to the UEFI boot file in bios.
     
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    I have not found a software that is capable of cloning the recovery partition too. Samsung Magician isnt also. But maybe that is not necessary. My plan is to use the new m.2 as boot drive with windows, keep the old m.2 with the recovery partition for return cases and use the formated c: partition on the old m.2 as additional space. So I am pretty new to the UEFI thing. Is there a way to point the bios from where to boot when I have 2 m.2, the new one with the cloned c: partition and the old one with the recovery partition?
     
  4. rinneh

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    What is the reason why you want to keep the recovery partition by the way? WIndows creates a new one anyway. The only thing you will miss is SYnapse preinstalled and the color profile which you can extract.
     
  5. falkio

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    Ok didnt know that. Then there is no reason to keep the preinstalled recovery partition. The only reason to use the preinstalled Windows may be the license? So anyway I am sill not sure how to perform the mirroring and boot device switching.
     
  6. rinneh

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    The license is stored inside the uefi bios. So you never lose that key until you overwrite it with a new key.

    THe boot device switching. I cant check now on my blade because I am at work. But can be done in bios in the boot menu of the bios.
     
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  7. falkio

    falkio Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh awesome. So I can reinstall Windows fresh as often as I want and don't have to care about a license as long as I stay on the same machine? Thanks!
     
  8. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Indeed, no need to keep track of the key and amount of installs you do on the same machine.
     
  9. falkio

    falkio Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I got my replacement RBP yesterday. So far I still got some fan noise while starting the fans but less noticeable. And I had luck because now I have a Samsung SSD and not that ****ty LiteOn one. Screenbleed is also better. But now I have stuttering while using HWInfo and Synapse at the same time, not on the last one. Firestrike results are pretty close.
     
  10. falkio

    falkio Notebook Enthusiast

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    I installed a new SSD on my RBP but I realized that the new one (970 EVO) is running way hotter than the preinstalled one. I wonder if this huge difference ist only because of the thermal pad which is on the preinstalled one, are those temperatures and differences feasible?

    https://imgur.com/a/tSPyN7V
     
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  11. rinneh

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    The 950, 960 and 970EVO run notoriously hot. A thermal pad helps but not that much.
     
  12. falkio

    falkio Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the answer. Als long as its „normal“ and feasible I can live with that?!

    50 degree is at idle btw...
     
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  13. falkio

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    On Crystal DiskMark it goes up to 88°C, the old one only 75°C.
     
  14. rinneh

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    Well its normal in laptop use, but I dont like it myself. The drive with throttle when it reaches a too high temp to prevent burning itself out. You can get those thick spongy thermal pads that connect the SSD with the backpanel like they do with the RB15 variants. But it would only lower the temp 5c at most in the most optimistic scenarios, based on the temps that I see.
     
  15. falkio

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    Wow, I applied a thermal conductivity pad with 5 W/mK and 3mm thickness to have contact to the bottom plate of the RPB. Now I came down from max 88°C after 5 CrystalDiskMark runs down to 59°C max! And the idle temp went down to 37°C.
     
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  16. falkio

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    I noticed a pretty decent IPS glow on mine. I tried to check the panel type and it came out that I dont have the AU panel from the notebookcheck review but an BO (cant remember the right one now). Can you tell me your type and your impression on the IPS glow?
     
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    A weird flickering occurred on my screen. Its a minor flickering in brightness mainly seen on darker images (discord or dark mode explorer). Never had that before. But it has to be related to windows because as soon as I start the Intel Graphic Adapter Control Panel and leave it open or minimized it´s gone. As soon as I close the control panel its back. How can that be? Any clues?
     
  18. Desertf0x9

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    My Wifi suddenly died and I have not been able to re-enable it. Has anyone encountered this issue?
     
  19. rinneh

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    Disable self panel refresh in the intel control panel
     
  20. falkio

    falkio Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks will try this but can you explain why and what this is?
     
  21. rinneh

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    It shuts down the GPU when an image is static on the fly. To save battery, but in practice it doesnt seem to make a difference but does cause flickering in windows often. Especially on AUO panels in my experience.
     
  22. randomA

    randomA Notebook Guru

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    is there absolutely any other online store besides Hidevolution that sells the razer blade 17 pro with customizations?
    i cant find any other!
     
  23. rinneh

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    Nope, they have set SKU's. Upgrade it yourself?
     
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    has anyone seen any real info on performance of the 17 pro with the 4k screen in the newest config? most of what I seem to find is on the "older" config
     
  25. falkio

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    Does anyone knows if I can take the newer driver from the Razer website for the RBP 17 late 2019 for my early 17?
     
  26. pathfindercod

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    Never mind
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2019
  27. seppolainen

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    any "Longterm" users here who can comment if they still happy/satisfied with the machine?
     
  28. childprotectorofthenight

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    I second this. My buddy wants one and I'm advising him against this. Curious how it's been running for owners
     
  29. aIJay

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    Had it since it came out and i am perfectly happy with it. No issues whatsoever.
     
  30. childprotectorofthenight

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    Thanks for the quick response! One more question. This may be a long shot. Does any owner have the DB rating for the 2060 17 pro. Notebook check has it being louder on balanced mode compared with the 15in which is plausible seeing as it's higher performance.
     
  31. rinneh

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    There are no long term users since this machines is released about 3 months ago....
     
  32. galaga13

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    Hi everyone, happy new year, I would appreciate if you can comment on the XMP profile 1 available within the BIOS, are there any performance benefits related to it, thanks in advance
     
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    Hello, in every test about Razer Blade Pro 2019 the panel model is AUO B173HAN04.0, meanwhile two samples of Blade Pro 2019 which I have access for, according to HWiNFO have IPS panel model BOE NV173FHM-N44, which from reviews it's pretty bad in comparison to AUO one, as PWM flickering and bad response times. Can any owner of Blade Pro 2019 check or post screen from HWiNFO what panel model is in your sample? Regards
     
  34. knibbler

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    What do you want to know? It's fast. Notebookcheck says it's faster than the 1080p version although i dont know why.

    The bottom gets abit hot because the gpu is always at 300mhz minimum.
    If you switch to optimus intel gpu the screen goes to 60hz.
    Battery life seems low. What I expected. About 65% of what the Blade 15 gave me.

    The screen is great. No doubt the best laptop screen there ever has been. Colors are what you would expect for 88%RGB.
    Its just bright enough. I expect over the next few years we'll see 4k 144hz HDR10+ Gsync..etc. But for now this is exceptional.

    No i i cant seem to get Netflix to play 4k...so its youtube 4k or just regular downsampling 1080p on amazon and netflix. Still looks great.

    I was expecting alot from the screen at that price point and waiting so many years for 4k @120hz. It doesnt dissapoint. What sucks is the HDCP protection preventing streaming 4k on most software.
     
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    Really no Blade Pro 144Hz 1080p owner here, which could check IPS panel manufacture in his sample?
     
  36. rinneh

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    This shouldntr be the case. Is Afterburner or something like that not just waking up your GPU constantly?
     
  37. knibbler

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    Sorry, I wrote that weird. I meant that the GPU sits at 300mhz minimum when on nvidia graphics. When switched to Intel through synapse it doesn't do that
     
  38. Raidriar

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    Do not forget the RBP has a smaller battery than the RB, by a considerable amount. The dGPU is also configured to 90W instead of 80W on the RB15
     
  39. aIJay

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    Can 2080 Max-Q owners confirm if their GPU's are still running at 100 watts?

    After some recent driver updates I've noticed the 2080 in my Blade Pro is now running at 90w instead of 100w.
     
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    It seems to be quite a mess...
    If you use the original driver..the one windows update gives and the default installed driver. I think its 4.371. Everything works great.

    If you update the driver then you get (at least on my system) 100watt gpu in Auto mode only in performance options in Synapse.
    If you choose Custom then it will be 90watt even if the sliders are all the way to the right.
    Thing is..in Auto mode synapse controlls the clocks of the cpu and lowers them while you play... overrides throttlestop .

    So im using the older drivers for now
     
  41. aIJay

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    I guess I'll just have to settle for playing on Balanced Mode with the 35w/45w CPU power limit. Doesn't matter since I'm GPU bound when playing on 1440p anyways.

    Extra 10w on the GPU is worth more FPS than 20w on the CPU.
     
  42. knibbler

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    I get that. Makes sense . Right now im having a tough time with Red Dead Redemption running properly and if it turns out I have to have the new Nvidia drivers then ill upgrade and make the sacrifice for a slightly lower cpu speed
     
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    A little more info for the few people who would care..

    Using the Intel graphics in optimus mode, and using CRU custom resolution utility, the screen can be set as high as 77hz. ( at least on my screen)
    The response rate is already so fast for a 4K screen that even at 60hz its not that bad to look at. 77hz is pretty smooth without much judder watching movies...which you can only watch netflix in 4k if you use optimus.
     
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    Maybe you can elaborate here? I'm running this new RB17 Pro RTX2060 and noticed that its capping out at 90w ...
     
  45. knibbler

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    I dont know what the power limit is for the 2060. We were talking about the 2080
     
  46. amihail91

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    It feels as though they should all be at 100w for continuity but I did notice you mentioned installing official drivers over the default ones which I have done.
     
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    Where do you check this at?
     
  48. knibbler

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    I wrote a post a little ways back about that.
    If you update the drivers then it seems to only do 100watt in Auto mode not custom mode in synapse.
     
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    You may use HWiNFO64 to check it, select sensors only and several pieces of information will load, close to the bottom you will find GPU1, the number you are looking for is GPU Power. In case you need additional details there are useful videos on youtube.
     
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    You are right, it caps at 100W in Auto. I tested my laptop (early 2019, 2080 MQ) using the driver released early February with 2 games, The Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight and the results were a bit confusing to me.

    Two profiles were used, AUTO and Custom with medium CPU and high GPU. I made the test in a hurry, please don't take it as conclusive

    TW3 (Walking around Novigrad):
    AUTO:
    Power consumption: 102W average
    FPS: 99 average
    GPU memory: 6000MHZ average
    Custom:
    Power consumption: 89W average
    FPS: 105 average
    GPU memory: 6259MHZ average

    BAK (Built in benchmark):
    AUTO:
    Power consumption: 101W average
    FPS: 98 average
    GPU memory: 6035MHZ average
    Custom:
    Power consumption: 89W average
    FPS: 105 average
    GPU memory: 6306MHZ average
     
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