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    2019 Razer Blade 17

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by rickybambi, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. aIJay

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    For best gaming performance you will want to leave it in auto mode and manually overclock the GPU.
     
  2. knibbler

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    Problem is in auto mode the cpu power limit doesnt go up to 60.
    So you will throttle the cpu abit in heavy games with the cpu locked at 45watts. Thats why frames are higher with the custom mode even at 90watts. Because the cpu is full bore 4ghz 6 cores.

    Windows update hasnt issued a new driver. Just that original one that can be downloaded from razer support.
    It may be razer synapse that is the problem, capping the gpu at 90watts in custom mode with a updated nvidia driver.
    Ironically those that have copied the 100watt vbios from Razer owners and flashed them to their GS75 or Aero 17 etc..get full performance because they don't have razer synapse messing things up.
    Without synapse installed these razers cap the cpu at 35watts...thata less than stock from intel. Thats just wrong.
     
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  3. aIJay

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    His frames are higher in custom mode because he has GPU set to high. +100mhz 90w will have more frames than stock 100w.

    Very few games are demanding on the CPU. Most will have you GPU bound.
     
  4. knibbler

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    Id like to see his average in-game cpu clocks to be sure its the +100mhz gpu making the difference on the frames and not that in auto mode the cpu drops to 3.5ghz or so average
     
  5. Rahego

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    I'm looking to buy razer blade 15 in Europe. Specially I want razer blade 15 advanced with RTX 2060. Can you recommend any viable store where I could order one?
     
  6. struselix

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    Guys... I got my second RBP yesterday. The first had horrible backlight bleed (left device at first Photo). I received the right one and found the Bleeding acceptable. Then today also the second one "developed" the same horrible bleeding as well (photo 2). This cannot be normal right? Why does the bleeding get worse after two days?
     

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    Bezel/cover flex, if its possible, pop the bezel all around the display and press it back in gently and usually the bleed is gone.
     
  8. aIJay

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    Latest NVIDIA drivers eem to have fixed the issue. GPU can now run at 100w in Custom mode.
     
  9. amihail91

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    Strange you think this was a NVIDIA driver issue and not a VBIOS issue?
     
  10. struselix

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    Is there a how-to somewhere to see how this has to be done?
     
  11. galaga13

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    Thanks, great news, I'll test it with borderlands 3
     
  12. knibbler

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    Whether its vbios, bios, synapse or a combination of all of them together..my blade still wont go over 90watts in custom mode. I downloaded the most recent nvidia and nothing. Maybe ill grab that old driver from microsoft update. Razer needs to update synapse to allow full gpu power regardless of nvidia driver version
     
  13. aIJay

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    It's definitely an NVIDIA driver thing. Most likely related to the Max-Q Dynamic Boost setting in the driver.

    This article has some info on it https://www.techspot.com/news/84661-nvidia-goes-super-new-geforce-rtx-gpus-gaming.html

     
  14. struselix

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    Does anyone have the BOE display? My replacement unit has this. I have read about PWM but for me the BOE display has better colours, is brighter and much less backlight bleed.
    What's the issue with the BOE panel?
     
  15. Shark00n

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    See a lot of people complaining (and rightly so) about the weird keyboard layout on these.

    This might help a bit - https://imgur.com/a/KqlDnOp
     
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  16. galaga13

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    I have updated the driver with the latest one, version 445.75, that includes DLSS 2.0, mainly to play Control. I tested the PC with AIDA64 and monitor power draw with HWiNFO64 (screenshot attached) and it was consistent at 90W in custom mode, with both, CPU and GPU set to High.
     

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    My RB 17 Pro 2080 also seems locked at 90w. Odd.

    I have updated to the latest 1.04 bios and have the latest GPU drivers
     
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    I have the late 2019 with 9750h and 2080 model and razer site shows no BIOS update. Only update is for the early 2019 RBP17.
    Is it safe to use that earlier bios?
     
  19. Shark00n

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    Why would you flash an earlier BIOS? Do you have any issues?
     
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    Hey everyone!
    I have been searching for how to remove the heatsink on the 2019 Razer blade Pro 17" 2080. I wasn't sure which screws to remove on the top left and right of the heatsink, is it the ones underneath the wires?

    I couldn't find it anywhere, I have previous experience with the Razer blade 15". However, I wanted to be sure, since I've noticed people have done this before. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
     
  21. Angrybot

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    It's almost certainly because of Max-Q:
    - In custom mode, if you set CPU power to "low", GPU goes back to 100w. Obviously there's no point in actually using it that way, but the results are interesting.
    - If you disable Max-Q on the settings menu, no impact on "balanced" mode settings but in custom mode GPU power is now 90w no matter what the CPU power setting is.

    Edit: it seems to be based on actual CPU power consumption. In "low" mode, if the CPU is turbobosting GPU power is limited to 90W. If you leave CPU on "high" but limit CPU power consumption enough some other way, you can get the GPU power back up to 100W.
     
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  22. Silentfan

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    Hi,

    I have a question: do all four fans always run? Can it be that the high-frequency noises come from the small front-fans? Has anyone pulled this small fans off?
    Currently I haven`t a Razer Blade Pro 17. Otherwise I would test it myself.
     
  23. Angrybot

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    Went and tried it w/ fans manually set to 3500 RPM. I could not hear a difference between the two (the high pitched tone was still there).

    My guess is the two little fans only move a small fraction of the air that the big ones do, and may even be spinning slower - so less noise.
     
  24. Silentfan

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    Thank you.
    Anyway, 3500 is too much...
    I will test it myself, I ordered it.
     
  25. Angrybot

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    The answer will be the same at any speed. I picked that speed because it was loud enough to make the results obvious.
     
  26. amihail91

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    You could achieve "full power" with less fans on if you just open the laptop and pull the smaller fans power cable out ...
     
  27. Silentfan

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    Yes, I will do that. I will give feedback.
    I assume you haven't done it yet. Otherwise you could say more.
     
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    I have - it works and the laptop boots fine.
     
  29. Silentfan

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    Ah ok. And now there are less high-frequency noises?
     
  30. amihail91

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    Yeah, those 2 little ones drove me insane. I used to have a RB15 without those fans.
     
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  31. Silentfan

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    Got it today and removed the small fans, but it is still unbearable for me (at the slowest 2300 RPM....). I`m spoiled as an Alienware Area 51m owner...

    Furthermore 2300 RPM ist not enough to have a good perfomance (cpu and gpu). For the Alienware Area 51m it is enough (with undervolting - the Razer is undervolted, too).
    The Alienware Area 51m can do all of this better. Yes, bigger dimensions, heavier, but a clearly better cpu-/gpu-perfomance (and with undervolting and a small hardware-mod you can use only one psu with full cpu-and gpu-power, too).

    But I don't want to trigger a discussion here, sorry. It's nice to be satisfied with the Razer. But for my taste it is not good (but the quality and the 4k 120Hz Display are very good). Keep on having fun.
     
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  32. Angrybot

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    If

    Sure - if the size and weight of the 51m aren't bothersome to you, it's quite a waste to sacrifice performance to get the smaller/lighter blade pro.
     
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    That's true. But not only because of the performance - the fans have a much nicer character. But that's not interesting for everyone...
     
  34. Angrybot

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    Thinner laptop = louder fans, but yeah there is a weird high pitched component to the blade pro's fans that's more annoying than a low pitched noise would be. Not sure if that's a direct consequence of the size, or due to something like the bearing technology used in the fans.
     
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    I was told it's their choice of fans - if anyone found some alternatives that fit I'd be down to try!
     
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    The fans are Sunon EG75070S1-C470-S9A. Which I can't even find in Sunon's catalog.
    https://www.sunon.com/eu/MANAGE/Docs/PRODUCT/299/367/Sunon DC Brushless Fan & Blower_(240-E).pdf

    According to the model # decoder in the catalog, the model name translates to series E, motor type G - 75mm frame size, 7mm thickness, 5V, sleeve bearing, high speed, generation "C", customer code 470, feature S9A.

    So you'd need a 5v fan that's 75mmx75mmx7mm, which seems to be a weird and uncommon size.

    I can find other Sunon EG75070 fans with different end digits (e.g. C390-G99). But I suspect they'd just sound the same.
     
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    I wanted to try the driver of the recently released blade pro (300 Hz screen) to see if it fixes the power consumption with custom settings, but the support page doesn't list any drivers in the download section, would there be an alternate way to get it? Thanks.
     
  38. Shark00n

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    I'm having another issue with my 2019 Blade Pro.
    It seems like it's very bad at holding a charge. When I charge the battery to full (100%) and just leave it on and in my backpack, after a week it won't turn on and it's at 0% battery.
    Could this be some sort of software issue? I have Windows and Synapse updated, still on 1.03 BIOS.
    Or do I need to go on another cruzade, dealing with Razer's customer support again? (please noooooooooo)

    Thanks!
     
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    Disable fast startup from the advanced Windows power settings. You can also disable hibernation by opening a command prompt as administrator and entering (without quotes and period) "powercfg -h off."
     
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    Totally forgot to turn that off!
    It's off now but I'm still having the same issue.
    I disconnected the battery when repasting. But there was a tiny spark coming from its connector when plugging it back in. Even after holding the power button down for almost a minute (with no battery connected) and taking adequate static precautions.

    Is there a way around this? Or is it just another syptom of my borked battery?

    Any ways, got asked by Razer to send it in again for the third time..

    What a lemon, my God.
     
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  41. Shark00n

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    Finally got it sent after another few weeks of back and forth with the Razer support team. Plus they sending me the wrong shipping label, my laptop getting retained at FedEx for a few days because the shipping didn't cover "dangerous substances"...

    It's like dealing with toddlers... I swear there's a hitch at every step of the RMA process...

    Should get it back next week though. Hope they don't get it wrong again.
     
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    Anyone having the black screen issue with newer drivers? BIOS update didn't fix it.
     
  43. Sadiki

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    So no one else is having this issue?
     
  44. Shark00n

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    Wtf my bluetooth and wi-fi stopped working overnight.
    Didn't even move the laptop...

    Is my card dead? What the hell
     
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    If it's both the WiFi and BT that stopped working, and everything else in your system is fine, then it's most likely the card itself. Fortunately, replacements are cheap and easy to install yourself. You can pick up an Intel AX200 for $20 on Amazon right now.
     
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    Before sweaping it try doing some troubleshooting like through windows, or updating windows. It happened recently on my MacBook (24/364 bootcamp) I thought same thing but after doing that in my case was OSX update bang, it back again. Well as other said sweaping the card doesn’t sweat and cost arm and legs though.
     
  47. Shark00n

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    It's back as fast as it went...
    Couple of restarts and it was back on. Very weird 'cause I haven't updated anything in a while and actually had W10 updates on pause for 7 days because I was on a slow adsl connection.
    Beats me, it's back tho.
    Maybe I'll look for a cheap intel wi-fi card. Not a bad idea having a spare one of those around considering they're not that expensive.
     
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    After formatting my Blade Pro I'm getting weird washed out colors when playing videos on MS Edge.

    Everything updated.
    Intel Command Center has everything disabled other than dynamic range set to full in the video tab.
    Nvidia Control Panel has no color settings because the iGPU is always enabled.
    W10 HDR settings are off.
    Have Edge with forced sRGB color profile thru edge://flags/

    Any youtube video is either played in washed out, muted colors, or flickers back between this and regular full color. It's like I'm watching videos with a FPS display profile or something... They look horrible.

    I'm at a loss here, what have I yet to try? Maybe clean with DDU and reinstall intel gfx drivers?
     
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    Try a different browser first. Firefox would be the obvious candidate since pretty much everything else is based on Chromium these days.
     
  50. Shark00n

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    Yeah firefox seems to work fine.

    God damn you microsoft edge.

    Been using it for the last year or two with no issues. Quite like it actually.

    Any idea on what setting might be causing it?
     
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