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    Razer BIOS Mods - Potential to Unlock All Hidden Options

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by stranula, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. MagillaGorilla

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    I think you’re looking at the wrong chip, there should be one north of that one, under the Display LCD ribbon.
     
  2. Dwadd

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    Faustiano may well be correct - on my first 2020 advanced that I couldn't rescue I had exactly the same chip in that location that they did. My replacement machine has a winbond chip, so there may be a few variations out there....
     
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  3. faustiano

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    Went back and read the postings again, and I did find that on page 30, Emtee_, had the same BIOS and was able to get it to work by selecting a variance of that GD die. When I am back at the office, I will test it out and see if it will work.
     
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    *EDITED*

    I have a couple questions:
    1. Once you have flashed a BIOS, is there any issues with upgrading/downgrading to one of the stock BIOS through the normal install process (using RazerUpdater)?

    2. Does anyone know where I could get BIOS 1.04 release as I am not sure if the programmer would work properly with 1.06? I was able to find 1.03 and 1.06 on Razers' website.


    Thanks!
     
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  5. faustiano

    faustiano Notebook Consultant

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    So I got brave, and was able to answer question 1. So, YES I can confirm, you can upgrade to 1.03 using RazerUpdater and then downgrade using the BIOS I originally pulled from the laptop (v1.01).
     
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  6. TiToMoskito

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    I can't unlock the Memory Options, it's still grayed out.
    I made an Bios Update with the official RazerUpdater to 1.06, than used my CH341A to safe it and modify it, like on the first page described.
    And because every enabled "User" Option was hidden, i used this method to unlock all options (but i dont think, that's so good, maybe some options got active since them, i dont know)

    This is the original 1.06(latest) bios: http://www.mediafire.com/view/0yxdz2k9sgstb2f
     
  7. somejoshdude

    somejoshdude Notebook Consultant

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    I recently just recovered with a chip programmer =P
    Soooooooooooo

    Make sure you have the correct BIOS for your system. (I used most recent) from the razer support Bios Update tool for your model)
    Gigabyte? Winbond? I've seen both and luckily mine was the B and not D version so Chip Programmer immediately recognized my chip.

    **You SHOULD confirm your flashing software/Programmer (ASProgrammer is what I used) can recognize the chip**
    **I had to ERASE my BIOS chip BEFORE I could flash the bios found within the Razer Update Tool**
    --> Side heart-attack. Plugged in the programmer, flashed, put it together and the laptop was DEAD. At least before it would power cycle. I tried again, no dice. I was looking through these posts and someone mentioned erasing the bios first, duh.....

    upload_2020-11-5_18-34-54.png

    Now to unlock ME for that pinch of Mhz
     
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  8. somejoshdude

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    So the whole friggin reason I wanted to unlock everything was due to Timespy being 6800-7400 out of the box.
    Applied the IMON SLOPE for CPU which brought the average way up like mid 7500s
    I upped to the 90w vbios, which brought it to 8000-8100
    upped to the 100w vbios, which brought it to 8200-8450
    Overclocked GPU +100 / +500 which brought it to 8350-8450

    Further stabilized CPU at -0 core / +125 Cache which allowed Ram stability @ 1.3v

    Then I worked on overclocking ram and worked my way up to 3533 @ 22-24-24-46-T1 v1.3. Two overnight memtest runs stable and for the first time since I upgraded ram could successfully flash FULL bios in Windows without error. (this is apparently the a large indicator of memory stability)

    Now I am part of the 8500 club
     

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  10. custom90gt

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    Where did you get the 90/100w vbios?
     
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  12. faustiano

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    By Any chance would you happen to have the vbios for the 2070 Super?
     
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  13. Karlis

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    Nice!
    Now i need to learn how to unlock RAM OC.
    Whenever I enable XTU1 profile it just boot loops.
    I have 64GB of 3200Mhz ram running at the stock 2667Mhz...auch
     
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  14. somejoshdude

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    I had to "insert" an overclocking profile using Intel's FITC tool and make sure the option to set profile was configured to true.
     
  16. amihail91

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    Have you seen any high wattage VBIOS for 2060 mobile?
     
  17. faustiano

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    Curious if anyone has been successful in flashing the 1.06 on the Razer 15 2020 Advance and reprogramming it so that Throttlestop can modify the undervolt and Turbo Ratio Limits? I can undervolt it in BIOS, but I cannot modify or adjust any of the parameters in Throttlestop (undervolt, turbo ratio limits, Intel GPU, etc).
     
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  18. wireproof

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    Anyone verify the 2070 Super Max Q VBIOS? I’m curious about being able to run the GPU at higher speeds. And keep my CPU undervolted via BIOS and TS. I’m definitely busier this time of year but on my days off I might try flashing the 90W VBIOS.


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  19. wireproof

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    I’m assuming the VBIOS is separate from the regular BIOS like in a desktop? Where is the chip located if it’s different from the regular BIOS. I’m still on 1.04 BIOS I believe.


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  20. Karlis

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    Yes, VBIOS is seperate.
    My RTX2070 Super Max Q always draws the 90-97W, so I see no point on flashing another 90W bios.
    The Max P versions BIOS is what I want. I think it's 115W?
     
  21. saturnotaku

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    Did Razer bring in BIOS-level undervolting to the Blade 15 now?
     
  22. wireproof

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    Only if you use a CH351a programmer. I find steady settings in TS and then manually adjust my BIOS to those same settings so I don't need to have TS running in the background

    Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
     
  23. faustiano

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    Can I ask which BIOS version you are running? I am still not able to adjust undervolt in Throttlestop. It lets me adjust the offset but it won’t apply. It least I can adjust it in BIOS but I would much rather do it in Throttlestop so I could make adjustments easier.

    Also, can you share your BIOS so I can look at the changes you made?

    Thanks


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  24. wireproof

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    I'm running a modified bios v1.03 that I edited using AMIBCP 5

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  25. faustiano

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    I was using a modified 1.06, so maybe something there broke the Throttlestop. I will try 1.03.
     
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  26. Shark00n

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    Hey guys, what would be the best BIOS for a 2019 Blade Pro?
    I'm on 1.03 but have an issue where, if "USB Charging" is left ON, my laptop will lose all charge over night when turned off and not connected to anything. Turning this setting OFF fixes it and, honestly, doesn't bother me that much.

    I'm struggling to find a change log on the latest BIOSes, I've read the disable undervolting, which I'm not using ATM but might come in handy later.

    What BIOS would you recommend me updating to? Or should I just stay on 1.03?

    Thanks!
     
  27. Metalocalypse

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    I am back! After months of waiting Razer send me new one and tommorow I will revenge!
     
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  28. Qjac fanboy-_-

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    I followed all the steps properly, but when I tried to flash the final BIOS in afuwinguix64 it writes: "stage: failed!" "address: 0xFFFFFFF" what could have possibly gone wrong, while editing the hex code maybe?
     
  29. Metalocalypse

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    I flash bios by guide (now without burning motherboard :D) but dont see processor in overlockibg menu and cant make undervolt by throttlestop. I use bios 1.03 that came with laptop, what I do wrong? :)

    also cant update vbios for 2080 by guide that was in topic - error need new nvflash, I use new nvflash - error gpu missmatch
     
  30. somejoshdude

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    What Year/Model, may need a chip programmer.

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FD3YahVBq9tYby6xrA7egLqoAeFGHYUC?usp=sharing
    Those 2080 and NVFlash worked for me.

    You may need to "unhide" the bios menus. if that was completed successfully, you may need to "insert" an entry into your bios to access, that depends on year/model
     
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  31. Qjac fanboy-_-

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    2019 base model. i7-8750h and mobile 1060 with the full copper heatsink. BIOS version is 1.01.

    Shall I show you my hex code for memory overclocking? Maybe I changed some of the numbers and letters wrongly.
     
  32. Metalocalypse

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    del
     
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  33. Metalocalypse

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    Find my mistake with dark_skeleton help. I use this guide and on screenshot "undervolt 1" missed USER acess on Processor graph. :D
     
  34. gnwjd12

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    just got the programmer again to redo the bios mod for the 2020 razer blade 2070super max q. i plugged in and read the file using programmer and saved the file but the file comes out as bin file instead of rom. amibcp does not support bin file since it needs to be rom. so i googled how to convert bin to rom and it says i can just rename the file to rom. i did so and it did change it however, amibcp cannot open the file and says couldn't open file. is there something i did wrong? can anyone help?

    *** seems like im having the same as before where the chip is not able to read. i have no idea what i need to do. i used two different computers for this and two different programmer but ntohing goes.

    I attached the image of my set up. Not sure why programmer cannot recognize the manufacturer and etc
     

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  35. Elite10

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    Hello Guys I`m New her . ;)

    Thank you for your work , Great Job. :vbthumbsup:
    I bought an Razor Blade Pro 17 with an 10875H and an GTX 2070 (2020) Modell and would like to Undervolt my CPU because I would like to have a QUIET Razer.
    I have read the Guide from Metalocalypse below and have please some Questions about :

    1. I currently have the BIOS version 1.04, do I have to go back to 1.03 or is it possible to rewrite 1.04 ?
    2. If there is a fan curve adjustment in the hidden options - maybe a reduction to 2000 rpm ?
    3. Is the BIOS of the Razor 15 and 17 the same - and where can I get it to download - on Razor Homepage the have only 1.06?
    Sorry ,for the many Questions and my English.

    Thank you in advance mybe there is someone who can answer.
     
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    [​IMG]

    I am on the 2018 Razer B15 base model (GTX)

    Overlocking Performance Menu is not in the Advanced tab, whereas its on a new tab by itself. What do I do in this case?
     
  37. Daniel Bud

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    Having the same issue, I flashed back and the menus are not there. Read the chip again and it shows they are enabled.
     
  38. phusho

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    Because your model did not have this menu originally, you have to perform harder unlock and add this to root menu, as shown in first post. Also if you search all posts there is at least one more post with step by step hex edit of images.
     
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    Hello,sorry but is there nobody who can answer my questions ?

    1. I currently have the BIOS version 1.04, do I have to go back to 1.03 or is it possible to rewrite 1.04 ?
    2. If there is a fan curve adjustment in the hidden options - maybe a reduction to 2000 rpm ?
    3. Is the BIOS of the Razor 15 and 17 the same - and where can I get it to download - on Razor Homepage the have only 1.06?
     
  40. Daniel Bud

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    Okay thanks got it working now. Is there anyway to use Throttlestop to adjust Turbo ratio limits i want different profiles. I dont need 5GHz when browsing the web or running VM's for work purposes. When i go to make profiles on Throttlestop, Turbo ratio limits acts as if its disabled/wont change.
     
  41. Raidriar

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    I'm trying to unlock my 2020 Razer Blade 15 Base BIOS. It has BIOS chip GD 25B127DSIG. Anybody know what to select for the programmer, as this is not an option.

    EDIT
    Ok well, I dumped my BIOS and edited it using AMIBCP and I got CPU VR settings to show up, but not the overclocking menu to apply undervolt, which I find way more important.....it is not like others. My overclocking menu is not in Advanced, it is outside in its own menu under setup tab, and the setup tab has nothing to show for overclocking....almost like it is orphaned.

    EDIT 2

    I read OP too quickly and missed the part where he created a new entry in the BIOS to the overclocking menu. I now have core and igpu voltage settings accessible and settable. I was able undervolt and confirm with throttlestop the values stick. For those with GD25B127DSIG, with CH341A, make sure you select GD25Q128 as the "chip" to match on. Autodetect will not pick it up correctly and DO NOT USE WINBOND IF YOU DON'T HAVE WINBOND CHIP
     
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  42. Elite10

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    Changing the IMON settings solve automatic overvolting and also tricking the computer into thinking you're half the wattage you really are. You can do 80-90 watts while the computer thinks its really 10-20ish watts.

    1. Navigate to Advanced -> Power & Performance -> CPU - Power Management Control -> CPU VR Settings -> Core/IA VR Settings.
    2. Make a photo of your original settings in case you want to revert to these settings.
    3. AC and DC Loadline change value to 1.
    4. IMON Slope value change to 50.
    5. IMON Offset value change to 31999.
    6. IMON Prefix to [-] (negative) MUST DO.
    7. VR Current Limit value change to 800.
    8. TDC Enable set the value to Disabled.
    9. F4 save and restart.
    I attached a picture “bios settings TDP mod” http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/bios-settings-tdp-mod-jpg.187051/ in addition to the text.



    I read out my BIOS with a programmer and so i have a question about this settings above :

    1. I would like to Change the 45 Watt of the i7 10850 H CPU to 30 Watt is this possible with a 341A Programmer ?
    2. Where can I do this - where can i find this config - where can i do this

    Thank you for answers an helping
     
  43. SupMap

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    After fully unlocking my Razer Blade 15 Advanced (Mid 2019, rtx2080) bios (using a programmer) i gained access to the overclocking menu to adjust the core voltage offset (undervolting). By default, i had a value of -100mv which is Razer typical, and as i also removed the TDP limits i need to adjust the default voltage offset to a more realistic value of around -25mv (tested with throttlestop to work for my system).

    However the problem is, after setting -25mv as the core voltage offset in the bios, only the cache voltage offset changes and the core voltage offset stays at -100mv according to throttlestop. First i assumed this might be influenced by the Synapse software, which might reset the voltage offset to their default value on boot but after fully formatting the drive and re-installing Windows the problem stays the same. I can however avoid this behavior by enabling "overclocking lock - BIT 20" in the bios, which let's me assume that indeed the bios settings get partially overridden during boot. Does anyone have an idea on what might override the settings ? Maybe Razer pushes some modifications to the operating system via Uefi on installation ? As i can not otherwise explain how a clean windows installation could start do undervolt the cpu cores to Razer defaults...

    Also i have noticed that even after a clean Windows re-install, the Razer logo replaces the Windows logo during boot - so i assume Razer tweaks the Windows installation by pushing something through the Uefi interface? Any idea on how to avoid this? I have all Bios options unlocked by the way, so i would be happy if someone could show me the right direction on where to search for a solution.
     
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  44. phusho

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    If you want just to make it from 45 to 30 wats you have to change offset to -15000 that's. Slope left it on 0. Others are same.
     
  45. Elite10

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    Thank you for the answer pusho ........I must change part 5. IMON Offset value change to (31999 - 15000 ) 16999 ???
     
  46. SupMap

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    Not exactly, the offset is meant to be negative as you set the sign to "-" in the next step (step 6 if i remember correctly), thus i suppose he meant you shall set it to 15000 in step 5 and do everything else as described unchanged.
     
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    Thank you for the explanation. I will try
     
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    I have a pretty basic question:

    For Razer Blades 15 Base model with RTX2060 from 2020 is the methodology the same as for the Advanced 2020?
     
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    Yes. I was able to unlocked my RB15 Base 2060 following the guides on the first page and page 26. Also check my note earlier regarding BIOS chip
     
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    Another question, which might be a bit off topic but still related to the bios mods. After messing around with the bios for a few weeks (unlocking, tuning, ...) on my Razer Blade 15 mid 2019 i noticed that the serial number as well as the product model entry from my bios is gone - meaning no Synapse or Razer software installation possible any more. I tried to inject the correct information with the Amidewin utility but it gives me a "Initializing the SMBIOS interface. Please wait a moment...... Init. SMBIOS ERROR" error. I tried both, directly from windows and booting to dos using the Amidedos version, same problem. Secure boot is off by the way, any idea what i could be doing incorrectly ?
     
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