Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

I've been preaching the same message, and test Fortnite if possible. Thanks buddy!

 

The i7 6700hq used to pump out 30w
The i7 7700hq used to pump out 40w
The i7 8750H is pumping out 75~85w.......

It's almost like the laptop is dealing with 2 gtx 1070MQ in SLI. It has more cores than the i7 7700hq while also having a higher all core turbo(3.9ghz vs 3.4ghz)

 

Agreed, Our expectations of a laptop is needing to change at this point in 2018. We're no longer bottle-necked by crap mobile-grade GPU's (970M) or slow processors, we're now limited to what the manufacturers can design thermally. Laptops can't have big beefy coolers like desktop cases, so the OEMs need to consider factory LM or cooler redesigns. I wouldn't mind if it voided warranty to remove heatsinks if there was already LM underneath and factory preventative measures for leaks (IE, custom trays or spill shields). There'd be no reason to open them for repaste at that point, especially if temps were acceptable.

 

The problem manufacturers have is that we want : slim,powerfull ,good temps and QUIET at the same time. They can't deliver all that.

Let's also not kid owerselves. The only reason the i7 8750H isn't a 2.8ghz turbo CPU is that AMD is going to invade the laptop market with 7nm ryzen(which destroys everything intel has efficiency wise).

And as for nvidia(even though they deliver amazing performance), they have shady marketing and high prices. If amd only can compete.......

LM application takes time. There is absolutely no way a factory in china is going to "waste" 30min applying it to every machine.

Asus cooling design in the GM501 is good.

 

I can help you with LM repaste if you need

 

Physically or informatively? I'm definitely interested in help.

 

Either or

 

Are you anywhere near the Houston area?

 

unfortunately no

 

Damn. Well I believe I'm prepared enough to pull it off, but I think I am going to Kryonaut the 1070 and Conductonaut on the CPU, unless anyone thinks I really really shouldn't. I already have Kryo in my arsenal (and currently applied to the RB15) so this is my current cart for Amazon.

 

LM on gpu has two advantages :

1 allows you to OC and keep good temperatures

2 quieter fans.

On CPU it's a no brainer if you know how to

From P950 fourms

Stock 93~97c on cpu now : aida64 + furmark = 3.9ghz steady never surpassing 80c


Witcher 3

https://m.imgur.com/a/PeA2gb2

Keep in mind the P950 has worse cooling on the CPU compared with the razer blade.

 

what's the 2nd item?

 

Coating to prevent LM from leaking(at least that's what it looks like

 

I'll consider it then, but currently my GPU never breaks 80c. Still playing with the idea, but the GPU is the more risky item when it comes to spills.

Its Conformal Coating, kind of like nail polish, makes a protective layer around LM leak victims.

 

I recommend using a much cheaper solution, credit to @Mr. Fox





For coating the CPU I would recommend kapton tape (intel bga cpu), for the GPU I recommend electrical tape super 33+ to protect the exposed pins and diodes.

Is conformal coating removable/peel-able?

 

Thinner or stripper removes it, you apply it to the diodes then blanket everything around the heatsink with super 33+. I would actually like to create a foam dam as a 3rd line of defense, if possible.

heres the listing if you wanted to see the coating
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008O9YIV6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

heres one of the several instructional videos I'm taking notes from

 

I wouldn't put 33+ on the cpu cause the tape is almost as thick as the silicon die



If you don't mind shipping your unit over I can repaste it for you free

 

I would absolutely pay you for your time and service, I don't expect you to do something like that for free! Honestly considering it, but on the other hand I do really want to do the process myself, too... I really want to get proficient at this so I can do this to all my future laptops. It is nerve racking since this will be my first LM application, but I just like being highly prepared. I will think on it though, thank you very much! it means a lot!

Was this you in this conversation btw? Mobius 1 mentioned at 0:14 seconds?

 

@Mobius 1 you can do mine and I will make sure you have something nice in the box worth your time!

 

Ok.

Yes.

Send me a PM and we'll work this out.

 

This. There's no way an assembly line is going to do LM. Our only option is shops like HiDevolution to aftermarket apply it and provide their own warranties. Either that or risk doing it yourself.

 

And quality thermal paste is too expensive to put on

 

Very cool, you're a computer superstar
@Darkhan Let me know what shipping costs to & from in case i p**sy out of doing it myself!

 

My shipping cost would be more as I always priority fedex overnight with 2500.00 insurance. In the past normally shipping both ways is over 200.00

 

Good video, thanks. It seems the 33+ tape is useful as Bob gets some on it in the video despite everything he does...

Again, seems effective.

Bit of a tough call on whether to LM the GPU...

 

I think that's a bit overkill

:v

Overnight is not really needed

 

Very pricey. I may DIY this then, wanted to learn anyway.

Ikr? Im really questioning that myself.

lowest shipping option was like 25ea way but that puts you out like 2 weeks

 

25ea isn't so bad

If you don't mind waiting

 

I dare to say that Thermal Grizzly Cryonaut applied from the factory wouldn't even cost 50cents extra, considering the amount needed per laptop. My guess is that the assembler had some 20 year old unicron jizz somewhere on the floor and told added it for free and razer was happy about it. Cent amounts matter more than good thermals, even if they lose the "savings" after a single laptop gets returned for overheating.

Our only hope is that stuff like those graphene pads get better (for laptop usage) and wider spread/cheaper, so that we don't have to pray for fresher unicron jizz, that isn't scrapped from the ground.

 

Graphene pads are more expensive and perform the same as normal thermal compounds (kryonaut, nanogrease extreme)

 

Guys are you aware of graphite pads.
https://www.innovationcooling.com/products/ic-graphite-thermal-pad/
For the 8th Gen from what I am reading has hot spots. The pad spreads heat sideways exceptionally well and from my understanding of vapour chambers with small chambers using all the chambers will boost cooling.
Whilst it might not offer better than paste on older cpu's I think it would excel with the 8750.
What's your thoughts and anyone going to try it?

 

Tried it with the X1 Carbon (kbl-r), the cooling performance is on par or worse than the stock factory paste


http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...mal-pad-available-for-test-and-review.815439/



If you want REAL graphite sheet you have to buy the soft PGS pad here: https://www.digikey.com/product-det...c-components/EYG-S0909ZLX2/P122034-ND/6575964 or https://www.digikey.com/product-det...c-components/EYG-S1818ZLX2/P122036-ND/6575966

 

How do those perform in notebooks?

 

the cooling performance is on par or worse than the stock factory paste

 

Even the expensive ones? Bummer. Those things seem so easy to apply, but I guess with little work comes little reward.

 

It's not meant to be used with computers

And IC diamond is just misleadingly advertising LOWER QUALITY stuff

Their previous rep has been bullied out of NBR due to lying about their paste product not marring / damaging the surface finish of heatsinks and silicons, there's no doubt that they would also lie about the graphite sheets

 

So i received my blade today... i think its a good laptop... BUT why the hell does razer power throttle this thing so much? it can barely hold 3.5Ghz. I cant even get to those temp numbers u are all getting cause it power throttles before. Max temp is 82c while running cinebench in a loop. I only get 1100cb. They cant be serious -.-
When i run OCCT all cores drop until 2.2Ghz.. max temp 78c. This cant be normal.

*EDIT* Are there only two profile settings in razer synapse? Gaming and Balanced? i thought there must be 4...
Anyway. Can some1 pls dump his bios (v 1.02). Mine came with 1.03 and there is no other in downloads. I wanna try if this makes any difference

 

According to @D2 Ultima it's meant to throttle prematurely

The increased TDP of 60/80 is only for stunts and publicity benchmarks for idiot + brainless + paid shill reviewers who don't know any better than what Razer says

 

Thanks for the tip, won't ever use them.

My particular Blade power limit throttles to 25w while using Synapse BALANCED mode. When using GAMING, it lets me scorch my laptop if desired. Make damn sure your Windows power settings are all up to Better Performance or Maximum.
If you use Throttlestop, make sure BDPROCHOT is unchecked and SpeedShift is checked. I use a speedshift of 0 on gaming profile, but with lower clocks.

I only have 2 razer power profiles as well, IDK how there were pictures of 4 around the internet.

 

4 is for the old version of blades I believe

 

Here's what IC Diamond it did to my Tornado/EVOC CPU heat sink where the CPU IHS meets the heat sink. Not the small scrapes, those were me trying to get to the copper underneath.. I gave up and just buffed it mostly flat.. seems to be working fine so.. eh.. If it was cost effective I'd just outright replace the CPU heat sink side and IHS but it's probably more than I'm willing to spend for what MIGHT be little gain...

 

What does bdprochot do? Can you upload a picture of your throttlestop settings?

 

From HWiNFO

So basically, you run the risk of your CPU overheating and the system powering down if the cooling solution can't do enough on it's own to stop that from happening. It seems anyway.

 

If you design the cooling system properly this signal should not be needed ever

But Razer designing things properly lol, after the Blade 14 sabotaged VRM design I wouldn't trust them ever

But you're removing it wrong hurrrrrrrrr

- IC Diamond rep










@Assault don't LM the GPU, unless the contact is perfect you're either going to get worse result or the same temperature compared to using normal paste

Heatsink adjustment (heating up, bending to achieve better pressure) is harder on the GPU side due to the die being larger. And this is a vapor chamber which is not as easy to heat up and bend unlike copper heatspreader on heatpipe heatsinks.

 

When I have prochot enabled, it throws a thermal throttle down in the 70s. Is that because of something razer did?

And thank you, Ill do my initial Kryo+Conductonaut idea. I feel much safer about it, too.

 

Yes

Its most likely a bandaid for their inadequate cooling solution

 

Hmm. To get this straight then, I think Prochot was disabled out the box. I checked it in throttlestop to see how it reacts.

The computer throttles to 25w on Balanced mode, that is 100% razers doing though. Still don't know how to get around that while gaming on Balanced, other than lowering clock speeds. I wonder if it will continue after LM, or if temps being lowered changes power limits.

 

Previous Blade 14 doesn’t have Synapse 3 like Blade 15, it comes with synapse 2 that have 3 fans profiles only, balance, low and high, gaming mode on Blade 15 is similar with OC (i heard 100 Core and 200 memory clock, when I’m not wrong) with afterburner.

 

Hi everybody,
This is my first post after reading a lot here! Thanks for all the information you ready gave me!

So, i just wanted to share my results of a Fire Strike Ultra Stress Test. As you can see, the temps are quite ok, but look at the average of the CPU clock. Looks like a lot of throttle here! Or is there another explanation for this?

I did run with game mode, fans on auto and -160 UV.

I hope you can read everything in the picture!



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Run a few games and show us your temps and clocks please also keep an eye out for power limit throttling