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    Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by X33nbat, May 20, 2018.

  1. kessomatt

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    It is not similarly priced. At least here in the u.s. Right now it is 379.99 vs 544.99.
     
  2. Joikansai

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    Yes I think it was around that maybe lower around 20, now a bit higher though here. Last week I tested 15K score on last time doing firestrike on afterburner but score was a bit lower than first time, maybe because ambient room temperature was already hotter. Noticed also cpu score on gaming mode wasn’t 16K, around 15, I think on that mode I was able to get 16K easily and on first time on balance mode i was also able to reach that. Outside day temperature first time I got the Blade 15 was around 21, but now it’s above 30, about room temperature I don’t put too much attention but definitely higher.
     
  3. darkloki

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    So I saw the notebook today for the first time yesterday at the Microsoft Store. It seemed like a pretty decent build quality and overall I'm a fan of the screen. I think I'm going to pick one up but because I'm not a hardcore gamer and intend to use it often for regular computing and some gaming on the side as I'm primarily a Hearthstone Player. I am currently leaning towards the 1060 variant due to the smaller PSU (added portability) the system runs cooler and the battery lasts longer according to notebookcheck's website which are all things I'd take over raw power at that level. I rarely play games of the FPS variety usually Strategy Games and Hearthstone.

    Can anyone see any huge issues with going with the 1060 over the 1070? I don't care about re-sell value I never really try to recoup anything on my older systems as I generally just give them away.
     
  4. Arondight

    Arondight Notebook Geek

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    I have the 1070 version but from what I read when making my decision as long as you don't need the power the 1060 version is just fine, with the added benefits you mentioned.
     
  5. fedd12233

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    only thing that comes to my mind is that the 1070 will outlast the 1060 for future game titles as the trend is newer games demanding more gpu power. if that doesnt bother you the 1060 runs great and cooler
     
  6. darkloki

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    I buy a new laptop every 2 years regardless so that doesn't bother me. Maybe the next person who I give my laptop away to will care but he/she will get a very good deal on the laptop so I doubt they will care either. In fact I'm only perhaps getting a Razer because I don't foresee an upgrade of the Macbook to my liking coming out anytime soon.
     
  7. fedd12233

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    No problem I'll take it off your hands in two years, thanks!
     
  8. SaniTaRiuM.bR

    SaniTaRiuM.bR Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has anyone tried to run G-Sync on an external display using the miniDP connection? Does it work?
     
  9. Oups

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    I found the fans to be pretty high pitch even at low speed. I recorded a video just to check with the support (Auto at first, then set to manual at different speed, the recording isn't high quality audio...). Does your Blade 15 also make this kind of noise ? I hear the high pitch even at low speed.
     
  10. fedd12233

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    listen close up to your fans at low speed, if you hear nothing but air pushing through its normal. if you hear a vibration or anything else than air its not normal. some fans can be loose or have a bad bearing or something in the bearing making a sound. but for these fans its intake so the air is being pushed though all the components which can make a sound like a whistle. completely normal
     
  11. Oups

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    Thank you very much for your answer! I'll check this as soon as I can get my hand on my laptop. I didn't know about the whistle due to the air flow traversing the components! If I understand, if the bottom case was totally closed like on more regular laptops the sound would be different but the cooling almost impossible to achieve?
     
  12. fedd12233

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    yup i actually prefer this intake method with fresh air being pulled in over fans blowing hot air out. and yes some laptops are exhausting air only so with the closed bottom they are only blowing the hot air out
     
  13. Oups

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    I understand! After hearing the fans closely again at low speed, it seems that only air is pushing through. Do all laptops using intake method will likely have this whistle sound?
    If you don't mind since you seem to know much more on the subject than me. I can hear some coil whine from now on then when using my laptop (I can hear it clearly when I'm really close to the keyboard), is it also something expected on these machines?
     
  14. fedd12233

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    Yes the coil whine sound is normal as well, it seems to be on every unit. Maybe in the future a bios uodate will fix this but for now it seems to be only heard if you put your ear up to the keyboard. I haven't had many laptops with air intake fans so I can't tell you if this is common or not for the whistle sound. Do you play with headphone when you game?
     
  15. fedd12233

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    i thought g sync was tied to the monitor capabilities, if plugged in to a computer with a nvidia card it will be able to run g sync, but I get where you are coming from. I'm not sure about the display port cable to g sync moniomonas I've never owned a g sync monitor but maybe someone has in this thread and will test it
     
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    Didn’t know this could be fixed with a bios update! I usually play with headphones but I am more worried for when I’m working and the room is silent. I feel the coil whine produce a high frequency noise that is disturbing but I can’t tell if it’s me focusing on this thing or if this is real :)! I’ve noticed I can hear a really light buzz from the coil whine when I use the 3 or 4 finger gesture on the trackpad to display all the apps and the room is silent. But maybe all the new blades do this at the moment?
     
  17. SaniTaRiuM.bR

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    The main point is that Optimus Laptops do not support G-Sync monitors since HDMI/Thunderbolt ports are connected to the iGPU.
    That's why I was hoping that the miniDP is connected to the 1060/1070 :)
     
  18. ninja2000

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    The mini display port is routed directly to the discrete graphics. I have tested it on my AW3418DW and gsync + 120hz worked fine. The USB C does not work, even with a USB C to displayport there was no gsync. I could get 120hz still though
     
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    I’m thinking of grabbing the Alienware UW that you have and using it with my RB. I’d live to see a picture of your setup?
     
  20. phusho

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    What I have noticed about power throttle is:
    - on balanced mode it will throttle to 35 W 3-4 minutes after begin of stress test
    - on gaming mode it will stay on 45 W indefinitely, also on gaming mode initial boost is 80W
     
  21. Firebat246

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    If you are talking about the synapse modes it still power limit throttles when in games that push both cpu and gpu. Whether in synapse balanced mode or gaming. Play Farcry 5 for half hour and monitor. If you can maintain 3.9ghz for 30-60 mins straight please do show us!
     
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    I actually have a question about transferring a win 10 Pro oem key. I may be getting a new Blade 15 this week to replace my current one with the stripped threads. I have activated a Win 10 Pro oem key on my current Blade... when I move my 2TB SSD into my new Blade.. what exactly happens to that Win 10 pro key? Will it force me to reinstall windows and lose everything? Can I transfer it easily? Just reactivate it? I have read so many different things and I'm trying to get a straight answer.

    TLDR:I have a 2TB SSD in my current Blade w/upgraded Win 10 Pro OEM key... I'm taking 2TB drive and putting in the replacement Blade 15. How does it work? Thanks!
     
  23. darkloki

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    Picked up the 1060 version and coming from a Macbook I really like the system although it runs hot hot hot. But I'l try to balance my usage between this and my Macbook.

    Can someone tell me how I'm suppose to wrap the PSU together? I am not certain how that wraps together because the elastic isn't on the actual brick but on the cords.

    Oh and this is why i ended up going with the 1060 version: https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-R...onger-than-its-GTX-1070-version.315674.0.html
     
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  24. Sykue

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    Not sure for your specific case but I believe the oem key that come with newly purchased laptops is written in the bios and can be used multiple times on that specific device. So when you put your drive on the new laptop you should be able to reactive it using the new oem key w/o reinstalling windows. There are guides out there that tells you how to access the oem key in bios.
     
  25. ninja2000

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    I am out with the kids for the day but when I get home tonight I will take some pics, will actually give me the excuse I need to tidy my desk :)
     
  26. fedd12233

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    hey if you can live with less graphics performance, more power to you! still a great card for 1080p
     
  27. fedd12233

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    windows 10 oem is easily transferable as long as it isnt tied to one motherboard only, like the keys you buy from the key websites. all you need to do is put in your key and call Microsoft windows team and they will walk you through it or it may just be easy and linked to your Microsoft account
     
  28. Firebat246

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    I'm pretty sure it's only for one motherboard. It was from scdkey.com I think don't quote me. It was only 15 dollars so if I have to put the ssd in the new blade and purchase it again no big deal. But will it let me activate a new key without reinstalling windows and losing all my stuff?
     
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    yeah windows keys only unlock certain features that you wouldnt have if you didnt have a key.i would just make sure to download the windows pro first and then go into settings to insert key after install, i know people who use windows without keys and are completely fine without certain customization features, and they dont mind a little notification every once and a while popping up telling them to activate windows
     
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    Also just to note I've bought keys from various similar websites and some of them you can swap to different motherboards and some can't. Sometimes it will say this is for one computer only. So I would test it to see if you can transfer or not before buying a new one
     
  31. Firebat246

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    So basically just swap my SSD and see if it boots into windows before doing anything?
     
  32. fedd12233

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    Yes it should default to boot to that SSD since it's the only storage connected to the computer with windows installed but you will still need to insert a key when you login since it's a new motherboard.
     
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    Ok cool so it's either gonna accept my old key or take away the pro additions until I buy a new key?
     
  34. fedd12233

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    It will work if it's tied to your microsoft accou
    pretty much, give a call to Microsoft windows team if it gets denied and they will verify if the key can be used again or it is stuck with the old mobo
     
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    I don't know how you guys are managing with a 1070. I have a 1060 and it gets hot, maybe I'm not used to this but after 30 minutes of gaming I give my laptop a break and let it cool back down. If I were to get the Razer Core would that reduce the temps at all? of the overall system when I'm gaming at home? or is the cpu just going torch everything?
     
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    I have the Microsoft protection plan so I let that baby run full throttle max frames
     
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    try this ac profile on throttle stop, your temps hould improve by alot throughout gaming sessions Undervolting Results.jpg
     
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    Thanks I sent you a PM
     
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    I need 2TB and am on the cusp of grabbing one.... I'm still on the fence bout NVMe vs SATA.. Still happy with performance?
     
  40. darkloki

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    fedd1233 thanks for the help on undervolting my system to get better temps I greatly appreciate it :)
     
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    I crank mine up as well. No holding back!
     
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    Yes it’ll make entire system cooler maybe around 10 degrees or more. Here’s temp while playing Far Cry 5 4K on Blade 15, with 1080ti on core setting.
    64AD7AB3-D61E-4220-930C-4C6813E9D779.jpeg
    It depends on games, like open world demanding games, Far Cry or Assassin Creed I manage 1070 Blade 15 with Balanced mode and 4600 Fans profile and -130mV undervolting to keep the cpu temperature on low 90ish. Gaming mode which is basically overclocking gpu by 100/300 bumped cpu to mid 90ish, no lag or performance drops on gaming though but some cpu stated throttle on HWINFO.
     
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    So these settings are put into synapse? I mean the undervolting would come from the XTU (I still have to figure out how) but the fan profile etc. where are you inputting that data?
    I am still awaiting my preorder so sadly no RB15


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
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    Razer posted some sort of one click updater to their driver page for the Razer 15 today. No description of what it does, but it updated the EC from 1 to 1.01 for me. Whatever that is.
     
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    This could possibly be a fix for the 35W throttling. When I was researching the issue, this was a potential way for the to fix the problem, by fixing the EC firmware. Anyone with the issue should try it out and see if it works.

    https://solutionsdirectory.intel.com/solutions-directory/embedded-controller-ec-firmware
     
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    Yep. I sold off both of my nvme drives. Replaced my desktop Ssd with this one as well.
     
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    Yap, it’s all through Synapse on Blade 15.
    Do you feel any differences on your Blade?
     
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    Thus far things to just be running a bit more smoothly. Could be seat of the pants though.
     
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    Just saw Reddit, it seems bringing improvement to Synapse, fix after sleep wattage issues and reduce thermal on idle according a user.
     
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    Tried flashing my bios, no success. Just curious about this 35Watt. Isn’t this 35 Watt locked on bios? I feel it is more bios setting somehow that they did to avoid issues from high temperatures than a throttling, since it always after similar period down from 45 Watt (or maybe reach temperature) to 35, last time I checked. And for wattage that’s needed, actually 230 Watt or 200 Watt AC Adapter is more than enough for supplying each cards and cpu inside, isn’t power limit throttle usually because of it couldn’t supply enough power? Correct me if I’m wrong though, just guessing. Btw it’ll be nice if you can upload your ms65 (I suppose) firestrike by any chance, I want to see 45 Watt cpu physical score, tried to search in MSI forum on notebookreview, didn’t find it yet, only cinebench which is around similar with mine, and notebookcheck, they seem don’t know how to maximize cpu or just tested what it’s on default, I find it’s too low for 8750H.
     
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