Razer Blade 15.6" (GTX 1060/1070, 2018 edition) Owner's Lounge

I'm no expert in any of this, but the BIOS and EC work with each other to some extent. It seems the EC does a lot with regards to monitoring your system and relaying this information to the BIOS.

Regarding my Firestrike scores, I don't have it installed anymore, but it was basically the same I was getting on the Razer before mine started throttling at 35W, and I don't know how the Razer performs when throttling at 35W.

 

Slightly better than ms65 from notebookcheck, but I can’t see physical score. Today when I did clean install nvidia drive for my core and tried without nvidia experience it was even better almost 14K. Physical was 15K near 16 on balance and gaming mode or paired with Razer core is 16K to 16,5K. I didn’t put attention on tdp on core setting but I think it’s same 35 Watt.

 

So i don't know if it's true or not but based on the video:


In the comment section she stated: "SSD easy heat fix: I just tested a Fujipoly 1.5mm thermal pad (stacked x2 over controller chip, single thickness elsewhere) and it drops the SSD temps 20C! Woohoo! That allows it to use the bottom cover as a heatsink for serious heat dispersion. Now the SSD averages 30C at idle and 49C when running the CrystalDiskMark SSD benchmark."

 

It's true . But don't take my word for it, many others have tried it and found it lowers SSD temps considerably.

 

i did it, but im just taking every ones word for it and not even monitoring the ssd temps haha

 

They should start making the SSD's with heat spreaders on them. Similar to that of Ram Chips.

 

since i had the bottom open i also re pasted the cpu and gpu with arctic silver 5, only paste i had but i had a feeling the thermal paste job was inadequate and i am seeing significantly better temps. just typical that factory thermal paste jobs arent the best

 

So i don't understand the Razer Synapse. Specifically two main issues I have with my current version.

1) The Screen Refresh Rate sometimes loads and sometimes doesn't. It's weird but on certain bootups it looks like it loads while on others it doesn't load anything. This isn't really an issue because if I need to switch it I know I can just do it via Window Display Properties/Monitor and adjust the refresh rate manually*

2) Function Key Primary:
I have the ability to choose if I want the top F keys to be Function Keys or Multimedia Keys (Their Default Values). Great that seems like a pretty good idea to have because sometimes we don't need the function keys. So if you choose Function Keys you have to press "FN" and then the multimedia key you want in order to register the keystroke. However... Vice Versa does not work... So if I have Multimedia keys selected and now I need to hit Alt F4 or F11 or F Anything I can't actually hit FN + Function key. Is it suppose to be that way? I'd like to always invert to whatever I've selected via synapse, but it's only one direction so I'm forced to leave it on Function because occasionally I do actually need to use the functions keys.

And what makes the whole thing annoying is that ok so it's defaulted function key now I want to raise volume or any of those multimedia keys so I press FN (and then all of the keys turn white) after I hit the FN key... What The?!?!?!

 

Those do exist, but I don't know if they are slim enough to fit in laptops. Some of them just seem to be gaudy show-pieces.

 

My 256gb default SSD isn’t hot at all, I think it’s around 50ish or lower, didn’t put attention at all on it since mostly i Monitor cpu and gpu, and other temperatures value were seems not on high degrees. It may due higher storage, like mini usb drive with 128gb usually hotter than 64gb one, and plus nvme is faster that make it hotter.

 

Looks like a new review, this time by Hardware Unboxed.

 

I apologize in advance for the million questions coming from me about this system as I'm a new owner and have not used a gaming laptop since the AMD 5870 era. Anyways are there any cons besides drainage of battery life when enabling the USB Charger Feature from bios?

This way I can plug in my phone or watch and charge it, maybe even while the laptop is off?

Thanks.

 

Look at battery life testing, yeah beat Aero and ms65 That’s how balanced mode performs Go to gaming mode and get rid from that 35 Watt. Btw gaming performs also better right? I’m curious though with AC Origins, I just finished complete the game, and mostly on ~70fps~ on average on high setting, is that reference system really performs like 14fps more? Damn it almost just like the difference to 1080 max q...

 

If you’re seeing by any chance other ms65 user benchmarks please let me, still curious about this power limit throttling. Here’s my firestrike balance, gaming and super gaming modes that I run today on OC mode I couldn’t use my old profile 200/600 anymore now with 185/600, still can break 15K, though on daily usage I use mostly balance mode. And yes on balance it locked to 35 Watt, but on gaming mode it’s 45 Watt and sometimes higher.
This is also my daily Synapse profile and HWINFO temperature during all benchmarks, super OC ruined it, before most mid 80ish with one Core went to low 90, no thermal throttling.

 

...how I delete this

 

I just ran the July 24 update to Synapse and when I run Firestrike now I don't get any Power Limit Throttling toggle as shown in HWInfo64. More testing to come... (EDIT: I'm wrong, it's still there in Balanced Synapse mode/EPP=128)

Firestrike 15,148 (17,239 (gfx) / 16,497 (cpu) / 7,454 (combined)). No power limit throttle toggle shown in HWInfo64 (see picture attached), max GPU temp 65C, max CPU temp 93C. Max fans, GPU 195/600, SpeedShift-EPP set to 0 in TS.

https://imgur.com/a/T89zMZP

EDIT: I got too excited - when running in Balanced Synapse mode (with EPP set to default 128 in TS), you still get power limit throttling shown in HWInfo64 sadly...bummer!

 

I see your SSD drive temperature still maxes out pretty high for just a few firestrike runs (76C) - you really might want to re-consider adding the thermal pads!

 

How about in Gaming Mode? Still throttles?

 

Where is this "July 24th Synapse update"?

 

If I run in Gaming mode (manual fans), then the power limit throttling toggle isn't triggered per se in HWInfo64 (all the "power limit exceeded?" toggles are "No".

That said, max wattage during the firestrike run was only 40W, and the physics (cpu) score was a paltry 12.5k, so it was clearly not running at full speed. According to HWinfo, the cores were running at 30x during the physics test, even though the cpu temps were in the low 70s during the physics test.

So still, the only way I can keep the multipliers up during CPU testing is to set SpeedShift-EPP to 0 (or close to) in Throttlestop.

Another easy example to test is to run Cinebench and watch what your cpu multiples do. If I keep on default settings - either Balanced or Gaming - then the cpu multiples don't get above 30 despite the very low cpu temps. In fact - and I've no idea why this happens - even when I set EPP to 0 in TS and run Cinebench, the CPU runs at max multiplier for about half the test, and then drops down to 30-32x (again, not thermal throttling), and Power package drops to low 40s. It's odd because 30-32x is VERY low for a 40W power package...

 

After I updated the EC driver (dated 23 July) (here http://drivers.razersupport.com//in...02.2070182701.1532455509-593964754.1529618486), after I rebooted, Synapse's own updater popped up and downloaded an update dated 24 July.

 

That update on synapse was for the ornata chroma keyboard

 

I can't seem to get over 14.5k in Firestrike, even with 200/500 GPU overclock. 16 545 Graphics, 16 373 Physics score, 7 034 Combined. I'm in gaming mode, manual fans, Throttlestop sst set to 0. Anything I'm missing?

 

Good eyes No, as I said it was from OC 180/600 afterburner. I’ve also similar temperatures when running games like fry Cry 5 mid 70ish degrees. On balance mode it’s lower.

 

I don't know if it was a typo or not but this made my day haha

 

Still stated power limit throttling on intel xtu, but on gaming mode at 45Watt and balanced mode 35 Watt. Just do simple stress test like prime95, and see the TDP like on xtu.

Your cpu (physical) score is fine. Maybe silicon lottery? How is your score on gaming mode? If you want higher score, you can try running it without apps opened background, like Browser etc, running it without nvidia experience I think will also bump the score.

 

Even with your GPU overclocked, that's still a very high SSD temperature. If you're fine with it then no problems - but you know that adding the SSD thermal pads is super easy.

 

Thanks idk that that’s high, thought anything under 80 is fine since i saw other users ssd is even on 80 to 90. I’ll do that later, when upgrading it, and from transfer and installing things it’s already fast enough for my needs and way faster than my old MacBook Pro...with Sata

 

In balanced mod (if that's what you meant) I'll get around 13.4k with 15.5k graphics score iirc.

Maybe silicon lottery but in that case I'd expect my OC to not work and crash, but my 200/600 (tried that instead of 200/500, bumped the score to 14.6k) seems stable. It's hard to tell with Nvidia's gpu boost 3 meaning that it's not a straight +200 boost. But I got up to 1706 core clock according to Afterburner.

Might just be that my temps aren't good enough for the GPU to maintain its speed, ambients are super high here in France (no AC, 28C ambients, GPU hits 71C & CPU 93C today during Firestrike)

Oh and yeah I suggest you add pads to your SSD as well, mine gets to 44C max now and 80C seems very hot. Even if it works fine for your usage remember that operating at higher temps wears a component faster

 

Hey, im new here, and i own my Blade 15 now a month (1070)!

I've reading this thread since it starts, before i bought this Laptop!

Overall im happy with it, except one thing, the synapse 3 app!!

My Problem is, that it starts sometimes, and sometimes not, no reason why!

And i Have a question: can i Put a M.2 SATA SSD without Problems in this Notebook??

because the 256gb is far away from enough

And at the end, i can say, that i didnt have any Performance Problem of the comments above!!

Al Cores at 4ghz all Time at aplaying Games!!
No throttling and the temps are at high 80s to lowest 90's, max Fans!

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What undervolts on throttle stop are you guys getting? I got a stable 170 on cache and core, im sure ny core can go higher but i keep them the same to make my life simple, Im guessing it's different for every system on what under volts can be achieved on ts

 

to all the people mentioning synapse issues, synapse has always been laggy of sorts and buggy. im just happy its not severely effecting performance while its running in the background. ive had synapse running for a chroma keyboard that would drop my fps by like 50 in the past

 

If i switch my system to 60 hertz that will lower my FPS in my games and perhaps bring down the temps as well right? for some games like RTS games I don't think I really need the 140 as that's more for a FPS game right?

 

if you can cap them in game on setting to 60 hz it will lower temps and keep the fast refresh rate on the monitor

 

Yes room temperature here in Germany is also higher than first time I received it, it was around 20, now maybe similar with there. I remember first time I could do 200/600, yesterday was only 180/600. I want to see gaming mode on synapse (100/300), because on that mode cpu also performs better (45 Watt tdp) than balanced mode with a bit higher temperature as trade off. Yes with good gpu silicon lottery luck you can easily get 17K on that 200/600. Though I prefer playing on balanced mode 13,8K overall score, for better cpu temperature, and the difference between 13,8 and 15K maybe only max around 3 to 4 FPS depends on games (AC Origins, Far Cry 5).
Yes it’s nice to have such lower ssd temperature, almost 50% lower than s great! I’ll do that later, still waiting great 1 or 2TB nvme deal

 

im gonna have to see how it works out for me ... its usually around 35 to 38 in my room right now .. also no ac in germany living under the roof LOL ... ill do my first tests in the basement to see sort of normal idle temps

 

I have no idea how you manage to stay sane at these temps !

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not that easy 3 fans blowing air at me, and a wet towel around my neck

 

Nope nope nope!

 

only in the summer though winter it gets freezing cold cause of bad insulation

 

Sounds like torture

 

So I'm roughly able to reduce my temps by 10 degrees between gaming at 60 hertz over 140 hertz. The unfornate part is now I'm wondering if i should just return the system and just purchase the 60 hertz version of the system if all I intend to do is to play my games at 60.... Would I ever want a 140 Hertz for Windows or Videos? does it make a difference?

Thanks.

 

I don't recall if it was on here or reddit (I think the latter), but I saw someone post that they used a Steklo laptop stand ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VIZ60QY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) for the RB15 and it worked well.

Mine just arrived and it fits perfectly. https://imgur.com/a/cLGXfaL

It sits the laptop at a nice height and has a full unrestricted airflow underneath. The stand is also super portable.

 

Try 144 hz using the web or typing or whatever. If you like the smoothness of it, then that should tell you that you might want to keep the 144 hz version. If you can't perceive any difference, then save the money and go for 60hz..?

 

Higher FPS is a lot harder to runner, just like a higher resolution. So it’s not surprising your temps are so different from turning down the FPS on the screen.

And higher FPS is only useful in games. Some people say they notice the difference in smoothness on the desktop with cursor movements and scrolling through a webpage. I can’t see the difference. I switch between 100hz monitor on my desktop to 60hz on my laptop all the time.

If you really feel your gonna keep the refresh rate at 60hz I think you’re better off returning the unit and getting the 60hz model. I’ll eat my mouse if you’re unhappy with that choice.

 

I don't expect there to be a difference in the desktop but maybe when I'm watching a movie? or video? Afterall alot of TV's have it or is that for video game consoles that hook up to the TV?

 

There is definitely a difference in overall smoothness in windows. I'm surprised anyone would imply the contrary. It's not game changing though, just feels nicer.

You'll see 0 difference in movies though, they're 24fps most of the time. The occasionnal youtube video will be 60fps but no content in 144fps yet.

60 to 100hz isn't quite the same jump as 60 to 144hz.

 

There's definitely a difference in general computing at 144hz. Everything feels more smooth. When I switch back to my XPS 15 I hate the experience as a result.

 

I have this and can confirm it's a great stand for the Blade!

 

Videos no, but 144hz makes a huge difference on the desktop! In fact for me, I notice a whole bunch of really nice things Microsoft has done with the UI in Windows 10 that I don't see/dont notice on 60hz screens (that also have typically slower display hardware). Overall for me, the 144hz screen with a nice GPU driving it makes Windows super smooooooooth. I'm a fan. Can't go back to 60hz.