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    Razer Blade Pro 17" GTX 1080 GPU/7820K CPU 2017 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by shoespc, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Look who's talking? No one cares how many laptops you've owned. I'm responding to what you've commented on so don't get it confused.

    You're a noob, face it. That's okay... We're here to help. We were all noob's once.

    What you should have done is provided the screen shots, instead of using the lame excuse of the files sizes being too large. Really?

    Are you incompetent, lazy or afraid to show the true facts of the RBP?

    You claim to have owned 15 laptops so either you have a mind of a 15 year old or can't think past the flashy lights of what attracts a 17 year old.

    To each his own.... but you're making a fool of yourself and I'm just calling out your failed attempts to dodge the bullets...

    And to add...I don't think I'm the one that needs a few friends... just saying... :rolleyes:

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    I think you're completely missing the point here and it shows by you being the only one to like his post.... to each his own lol...

    You're beating around the bush and we're calling you out....

    This is what some people don't understand. These razer fan boys are trying to cover up the truth when we are trying to expose them...

    Shame...

    Noob isn't a bad word or name calling. We were all once noobs. I was a noob and so were everyone else here... if you find noob offensive, you simply don't understand and am jumping to conclusions that is making you blind to the reality of how it really is. Lighten up.

    It's not the fact that it bothers people that you're enjoying your over priced and under powered+performing machine.

    What bothers us is that you're in denial and have failed to provide the things we're asking for...AND using the lame excuse of the file size being too large to upload and that you not having time...YET you have time to respond to the posts? Hmmm...okayyy... Face it, you're hole is getting deeper.

    Come on...really? Mr. I've owned 15 laptops... mmm suurree...okaayyy

    Haha...well the AW 17R4 > RBP by a ton... :)

    Calm down... the comments are solely directed to the one that is being called out.

    He claims to be this and that, yet acts a completely different way and fails to follow through so the comments are isolated...

    No need to get offended...
     
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  2. Blazertrek50

    Blazertrek50 Notebook Evangelist

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    How about you apologize to him for your insensitive remark?


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    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    There's a much better way to express thoughts and still be completely PC.
    Saying "don't be that guy" covers a huge spectrum without potentially attacking someone, and still gets the point across.
     
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  4. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Naming or the like. Not approved!! We are all brothers here!! Back on topic. TECH :hi:
     
  5. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    back on topic @Blazertrek50
    where's that aida64 screenshot that shows the razer blade pro has no thermal issues?
     
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  6. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    There's nothing intensive about that comment lol...get a grip.

    Where are the screen shots? We're still waiting..

    Something so simple... that's all we want to see...

    You seem to have all this time to respond, yet fail to produce the simple data that we are requesting...

    Is that intensive to you too?

    You're hole is getting deeper by the minute. Save yourself the embarrassment and just admit to the facts...


    ...

    It'd be wise to read back to understand where this is all stemming from. Until then, it'd also be wise to not take everything for face value.

    In the end you'll only confuse yourself and others with inaccurate info and/or assumptions.

    Are you also confused why he's able to respond to the comments, yet fails to produce the data that we've been requesting? Think about it...

    Do you realize how many people have returned their RBP's due to the rubbish that it is?

    Face it...RBP is a GTX 1065 advertised GTX 1080...let alone with thermals that are rubbish as well... that is my opinion...

    Okay...I'll wait... are you going to cry and say, "you're being too critical?"

    Uhm....prove me wrong then... I'll gladly accept facts and stand corrected if need be...

    Fair game... just quite being a soft cookie guys, come on...

    We just want the truth to be told like it is!

    Is there anything with that? NO.

    Thank you.
    ...
     
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  7. Cerreta28

    Cerreta28 Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree with what iunlock is saying the correct info needs to be told about that system. And all others for that matter. The RBP seems to have a very high return rate (i have no proof just from what I'm reading ) but so does the Alienware systems.


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  8. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    With AW systems the issues 'can' be corrected.

    With Razer they 'can not' be corrected.

    Every company has issues... But what matters is if those issues can be corrected or not.

    This is where Razer fans + the bonus of the unjustifiable price tag fails...

    It's just rediculous IMO.

    ::iunlock::
     
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  9. Cerreta28

    Cerreta28 Notebook Evangelist

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    I completely agree


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    And I completely don't! I have decided not to post my screen shots as I am not going to sign up for Imgur, for now. Maybe later someday I will. I do not disagree that there are problems with the RBP for some people's uses. I do disagree with the Razer hating but isn't that my right. It is your right to your opinion also. I do not agree with the name calling and never will. I am saddened that unlock has not apologized for his seriously insensitive remark. It is so sad when people don't know how to apologize, but so many are not correctly socialized in the ways of respecting others. I will talk on tech only from now on. I do think it is ok to point out why your technical knowledge while impressive isn't everything to consumers. Do you all understand that? It doesn't make me or others with less impressive tech skills "less" than you it just makes us different and that is ok. This is not that huge a deal in life people so lets eschew the vitriol and be civil to one another even in our differences. Thanks.
     
  11. Cerreta28

    Cerreta28 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ummm I was saying I agree with every system having issue not the name calling so lay off dude


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  12. slimjim8201

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    I've just started the test on my machine and I'm going to let it run for 15 minutes. Are there any special settings or logging channels I need to set in HWINNFO? Right now I just have the program set with their defaults.

    After five minutes the core temperatures are hovering around 92. According to AIDA64, no CPU throttling detected.


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    One really interesting item I noticed yesterday during my first fire strike test, was that the power draw through my UPS system was above 270 W


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  13. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    When reading your reply I couldn't help but think of Frankie Valli...



    Are you serious dude?

    Apologize for what?

    What are you? A teenager? Grow up.

    You're way too soft dude... Lighten up and toughen up.

    Just look at your reply... "I've decided not to post...... Etc..."

    Uh okay... That's because you are in denial and know that we are right...

    You saw that your Temps are well into the 90C+ and it would bring you much shame to show that right?

    Well don't worry, because an honest fellow will show what you're so afraid to show.

    Denial...at its best... SMH


    Yea there's something wrong with that kid/dude/guy... Er Whatever.

    The hole keeps getting deeper... Now he doesn't want to show any data lol...

    Truth hurts and it's because he knows that the Temps are Rubbish.

    Facts are facts.
    Thanks for taking the time to provide the data. It is much appreciated.

    .

    ::iunlock::
     
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  14. Blazertrek50

    Blazertrek50 Notebook Evangelist

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    I wasn't talking about you.
     
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    I ran this test for a long time and then manged to mess up my capture while installing Snagit. Reran and have posted below. The data looks truncated but that was my fault for resetting halfway through. The CPU throttled for the first 10 seconds of the AIDA64 test before the fans had a chance to get things in check. At least that is the way I interpret the data...correct me if I'm wrong.

    I've also posted a Passmark score as well. Not sure how valid that is to anyone here since no one talks about it...

    Diskmark score is last.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    See my post above where I talk about TECH. All in my post still stands. Can I please ask... What Cpu clocks could be archived? And with what max temps? And what Cpu Package Power? Thanks
    See my description on what tests and procedure :D And please... Put max advertised Overclock!!

    Edit. Hwinfo64 information needed in screenie... Clocks, temp and Cpu Package Power reading.
     
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  17. Blazertrek50

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    Mr. Fox I respect your incredible "tech" knowledge and truly appreciate how you help out so many people on these forums. However I do not agree with your statement here. I believe that if consumers do not like the product that a company makes that said company will fail when the consumers no longer purchase their products. Public wrath and humiliation are uncalled for and really less than what you would hope for from mature adults or even young people. We have the BBB to resort to if a company makes a poor product that we unwittingly purchase and cannot get satisfaction from, so why bother with tantrums? I believe in acting mature and professional over wrath and humiliation. We as the consumer always have the choice to not purchase a product. Speaking of Razer, if it truly is such a "bad" company, don't you think Best Buy, Frys and the dozens of other companies that carry their products would know it? They don't make hundreds of millions in dollars by selling unusable merchandise.
    Oh and one more thing I gotta say, I just love the "ignore" button (iunlock) ;)
     
  18. Jdorth

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    @Blazertrek50 Fine .**** the benchmarks and unrealistic conditions .let's have a normal discourse then . Please share with the forum the major points why u like the RBP..and if u wanna elaborate maybe also why u like Razer

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  19. iunlock

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    Your view of justifying the way business works is comical.

    Can you post the screen shots that everyone is asking for?

    You have all this time to respond to posts, however, no time to provide screen shots?

    It's also comical how you find my questions that you're refusing to answer to be too much heat...

    That heat only exists because you are clearly in denial.

    I'll ask again.... Can you provide the 90C screenies?

    .


    ::iunlock::
     
  20. slimjim8201

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    Where should the clocks sit at full load?


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  21. iunlock

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    It would depend on what you've set your multipliers at... But even at stock, all 4 cores should remain steady at their preset clocks when then cpu is under 100% load.

    Can you set all 4 multipliers to 43x and run the tests? That'd be great.

    Thanks.

    ::iunlock::
     
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  22. Papusan

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    Default without advertised 4.3GHz overclock... 3.5GHz on all 4 cores.
     
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    Noob alert. How do I set my multipliers?


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    @Blazertrek50 I'm still kinda waiting for ur opinions and discussion.

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  25. Papusan

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    Either from Razer's software - bios. Or ThrottleStop - Xtu. Remember Razer advertising 4.3GHz, I expect you can use their own software. If not Xtu + TS
     
  26. slimjim8201

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    Looks like XTU came preinstalled. All cores to 43x and rerunning the test. They were staggered stock.


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    I don't know how Razer do it in their software. But see above. @Darkhan Can probably help due he already tested 3 of them he owned.
     
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  28. Mr. Fox

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    Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.

    To be honest, yes... I think they will sell as much broken trash as people are willing to buy. They don't give a damn... not their clown, not their circus. If it's junk customers are told to take it up with the manufacturer or it gets returned to the retailer for a refund and Fry's, Best Buy and others still get paid. If they were losing money on it they would stop selling it, but as long as the cash keeps flowing they don't give a rat's ass if the product is good or junk.

    And, for the record... those retailers do not sell high performance computers. They sell run-of-the-mill consumer stuff.
     
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  29. Mobius 1

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    But you need to remember that @Blazertrek50 is the most run-of-the-mill consumer there is ;)
     
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    Here is the same test with the multipliers set to 43x for all cores, not just core0, in XTU.

    I feel like I'm doing something wrong here. Shouldn't my temps/clock speeds/multipliers be higher?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Is this FRY's ? Yeah, I can see they sell... Aka offer only quality and high end :rolleyes:
     
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    I don't know that is true and I don't think it's right to single out one person like that.

    Public humiliation and ridicule is appropriate for businesses that shirk their duties and sell crippled filth. Bullying or taunting one another is not cool and doesn't fix the problem.

    We should all be kind and get along with one another. The fanboyism is partly responsible for us ending up in the mess we are in today, with a vast selection of trash and nothing left worth buying. Water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink.

    Punch 'em in the wallet over and over until they die. That's how to deal with sucky companies that sell garbage.
     
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    And darn proud of it :p
     
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    frys, bestbuy. actually sell high end dtrs like the msi GT series


    but the added value service is not there, such as quality control and/or the free liquid metal from @Kevin@GenTechPC



    plus they charge you tax when buying, not a good idea when buying already expensive machines
     
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    See your own test. Barely Old fully locked down 6700hq clock speed and +90C with 45w POWER.
    IMG_0403.PNG

    From Razer's website. Overclocking up to 4.3GHz should be a easy task if you ask me.
    IMG_0401.PNG IMG_0402.PNG



    Yeah, but claiming they sell only high end and quality is wrong!!
     
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    There... fixed that typo for you. High-end BGA is an oxymoron. Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make it pretty.
    And, 4.3GHz was impressive for First-Generation i7 back in what... Q1 2011? Bragging about 4.3GHz in 2017 is a joke. That should be stock clock speed, LOL. Oh wait... it is stock if you have the right CPU.

    But, because they (Alienware, Razer, etc.) advertise it as being something special, the kiddos believe it and eat it up without questioning whether or not it is even accurate. Boys and girls love to pretend. Maybe tomorrow we will pretend it is a space ship flying to the moon. Or, we can close our eyes, make a wish, and it magically becomes the computer in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory.
     
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    Damn, you make my day :D One day, maybe I as well can learn proper English :p
     
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  38. Blazertrek50

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    and Mr. Fox some "kiddos" don't even care if it is 4.3 or 4.2, OMG!! Heresy!!
     
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    @Blazertrek50 that's exactly what i m saying. .tell me what u care about. This is a Razer forum after all and u don't have to defend ur purchase to a processor sheet .I wanna know more about Razer and why u like this product

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    I agree. Nobody should have to defend their choice if they are happy with the product. As long as they are not making excuses for product defects or pretending they do not exist, hearing the pros is equally as important as the cons. We need to hear the pros... all of them. The cons are easily identified by those paying attention.

    Defending the makers of defective products just because you like their brand is bad though.
     
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    problem is the only proper DTR a regular consumer can buy is clevo and msi 16l13, both which requires extensive thermal modification and fixes to even get it running right


    the GT series works out of the box at least
     
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    I heard Razer will soon be offering free Oven mitts with the purchase of any new RBP?
     
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    If one's bar is set low enough, I suppose that will do. But, OMG... the price to pay for something that has been castrated is ludicrous.
    I want the "leather and lace" edition of the oven mitts.
     
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  44. Blazertrek50

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    Well since you asked so nicely: I like the RBP because of the amazing keyboard experience, it is by far the most enjoyable I have had to date on a laptop and I have owned a dozen gaming laptops made by Alienware, Razer and OriginPC! I like it because of the chroma lighting and the synapse software. I like the design, the black color, the logo suits my fancy and I like the thinness and the weight is easily portable for a 17.3 inch screen laptop. I love the screen picture, watching movies, playing games, preparing Excel spreadsheets and even reading Comic Books on it are an amazing enjoyable experience for me. I really like that almost everyone that sees me using the RBP thinks how amazing it looks. Coolness is definitely a factor for me. I like that when there are smudges on the RBP I can spray it with water or eye glass cleaner and they come off and it looks like new. This is not the case with any Alienware or OriginPC I have ever owned. I like how easy it fits in my Razer backpack when I take it out on the road, much easier than any other 17 inch laptop I have ever owned. I really enjoy the mouse pad's location and tactile sensitivity. I also love the keys above it such as the sound and mute keys. I do enjoy gaming on it however, it is not much better in that aspect than other gaming laptops I have owned.
    Now as for Razer products such as mice, keyboards, mouse pads and gear. I first owned a Razer Mouse in 2007 and I used it for years. I have since owned many mice, keyboards and gear and yes one or two of them crapped out after a year or so, which did bother me. However, the majority of the products are still working and are quite enjoyable to use. I do think that Razer products have a certain cool factor to them as do Alienware. Am I a fanboy? Sure and that doesn't bother me in the least.
    There you have it. I hope this answers your questions.
     
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  45. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    But the question is... Can it run 4.2 or better 4.3GHz 24/7/365 as advertised? I expect people who opt for this model want the answers. And this thread is one they probably will seek to find the answer.
     
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    I can understand why you would say/think that Mr. Fox.

    I agree and sometimes I will be that person which was why I did sell my first RBP. However once I went back to an Alienware and found the experience dissatisfying I knew that I wanted the RBP back after a few weeks. Yeah I know spoiled first world problems but I do work hard for my money :rolleyes:
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    like the consumer will notice anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Can I ask you what would I notice in performance if the clock speed was say 4.1 instead of 4.3 in the applications I use? Such as MS Office, reading digital comics, surfing the web, playing Blizzard games and watching movies?
     
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    Darkhan Notebook Deity

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    The answer is NO it cannot. The best firestrike score out of 3 systems running 4.3 on a Bamboo board with airvents cut under for extra airflow, undervolted -50 and running firestrike from a cold boot up with no demo was 15689. the more i reran the test the lower the score got as the system throttle became more and more each run.

    I want a system that I can play a game, longer than 30min before thermal meltdown occurs and my performance becomes poorer and poorer every minute that goes by.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    You don't see much in games. But I have posted in one of the Razer threads what higher clocks can do in real workflow(See processor in real work vs. 6700K). Hit it up.
    And can I ask you... What's the deal with increased performance every year? Why would Intel and AMD push out mainstream 6 core processors this year? Both for notebooks and desktops.
     
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