Razer Blade Pro 17" GTX 1080 GPU/7820K CPU 2017 Owner's Lounge

With XTU multipliers set to 43x and the turbo power max set to 60W:

 

Nice! Now impress us by running that same test 5 more times and lets see the score?

My first RBP they sent me stock clocks on everything got a firestrike score of 11200!!

GPU was at 96c, the other 2 systems GPU stayed in high 80's for max temp so I assume that first unit was just a turd?

 

Even better. I'm going to let AIDA64 run for 15 minutes first and then I'll immediately run fire strike right afterwards


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Your Firestrike physics score is all too low for 4.3GHz. More like 4.0GHz. And increase power limits.

 

That's because it never hits 4.3 GHz. During a stress test the speed hovers around 3.2 GHz for all cores. How can I increase the power limit.


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See in my previous posts. I'm on my very small phone Not a easy task with my old eyes

Edit. See post # 231
Increase Turbo Boost Short Power Max, Turbo Boost Power Max and all IccMax Limits. Limits is only a Limits. No danger in use higher values!!

 

Here is the same test after a long period of AIDA64 to warm the chassis up.

 

Thanks Slimjim, If you're happy with that score and the heat from the unit itself then that's what matters most.
For me 15k scores for an advertised 1080 with 4.3 capability was unacceptable not to mention that the keyboard was horrible and the system was just uncomfortable after 30min of trying to enjoy a game.

I am not here to hate on Razer or anyone that uses one, and believe me, I tried every way possible to justify keeping this system just from the screen and sound alone and the system is beautiful, but its just not up to par for the price in my book.

With that being said, I am going to drop away from this thread as I really have no more interest in the RBP. Maybe the next refresh I will give it a try?

Good luck guys.

 

In general, I actually really like it. The keyboard is quirky, but I'm getting used to it. The weird placement of a few keys seems like a poor design, but it is all muscle memory. I haven't had any key actuation issues. The system is speedy as hell for routine tasks and the screen is top notch.

The funny thing is that I will most likely never game on the laptop screen. I do all my work on a Dell 34" curved ultrawide. Gaming on that ultrawide is incredible BTW. 3440x1440 is quite a bit lower than 4K and should dramatically de-stress the system. Also, I'm curious how much less power draw the system will pull when the screen is off. Could that extra overhead benefit the CPU/GPU? Not sure...

Looking for some help on the limits stuff. I've played around with increasing max power, increasing ICCmax, bunch of other crap in XTU and nothing seems to change the fact that the CPU drops to 45W after 20 seconds of load during the AIDA64 stress test. Any tips?

 

What Razer has done so well is to create the golden chocolate wrapper for everyone.

On it has the promise that it'll make a pig with lipstick pretty...

So the herd buys into this, because it also comes with free 3D goggles that changes 3.3ghz to 4.3ghz...

Problem solved, in their eyes, while the uninfected watch from outside of the pen in disbelief of the Rubbish nature of the company.

I've lost count... Missing the point again...

And this is exactly what some people have been doing...

Beating around the bush...

In denial....

True...

All systems have issues in one form or another...

The difference is, can they be fixed or not.

If it wasn't for Prema.... Ya know? Just saying...

Along with holographic Goggles to make every Razer owner feel like they are actually driving the advertised chips when in reality it doesn't perform like it is suppose to.

All for a whopping $4K+...

"but wait... Order now and we'll include a free bonus pair for your spouse so that you can both be on the same page of the virtual reality we want you to live in... "

3 small easy payments of...

I'll take the hazardous waste bag material edition, so that the RBP can be properly disposed without polluting the environment and people anymore than it has.

He has still failed to produce any data, meanwhile the other good fellow has been exposing the truth...

Right? That's what Razer has banked in.

Ignorance.

.

::iunlock::

 

Skylake 6820HK / GTX 1070



An AW 17R4 / 6820HK / GTX 1070 can be had nowadays for only ~$1500-$1600 if you know where to look.

 

But will it burn my wrists?


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Has anyone with heating issues tried using a cooling pad?

 

No, the surface where your hands and wrist are stay pretty cool as the design language focuses on pushing the heat toward the back, hence the forward hinge design.

Compared to the RBP, the 17R4 is a cold cucumber in comparison.

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Yes, I've tried, but it doesn't really work...

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::iunlock::

 

I've owned a lot of laptops, including an HP elitebook during the single fan for CPU and GPU days with an ultra hot quadro 5010M) and none came even close to the surface temps on the RBP. I'll take a few thermal cam images tomorrow.


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I have some temps of the keyboard in the areas where you wrists and hands normally would be with my ir temp gun....it's ridiculous.

 

Alright then .I just hope you are open to ideas .You seem like a person for whom experience is top priority right ?
Let's get that down then. Again I'm not accusing u but maybe reply with an open mind .All these points are isolated from each other but at the end I connect them .So read the whole thing please .

1)Keyboard .-This is a subjective topic .people have different preferences and that's okay .But what I want to know is have u tried keyboards from Dell or Macbook 2015 or even gigabyte auros ?Before u say they can't game in asking simply in an isolated fashion .Keyboard is something that is priority so have u tried any of those ? (Just the keyboard )

2)Chroma lighting and synapse : Any gaming laptop these days comes with RGB . Only difference is software : synapse ..As a Razer fanboy don't u think Razer could have done a better job in that software department ? For me as a fan of let's say a football team called Barcelona I think the player pique should have done better .Same here .You are lucky as u say that u have never experienced any problems with synapse .But don't u think a noticeable amount of people for whom that software crashes or causes driver problems is something Razer should look into .

3)Black color ,Design ,Logo : Very subjective preference ..Which is fine . However since u think experience is the winning factor ..Have u tried the Auros x7 ? exactly the same thing .? Infact from a pure objective point if view the Auros is better built by strength (I know u won't care .but it comes to this .If there are two laptops with the same design .Would u choose one which if it ever drops has a higher chance of denting ?).The Auros can easily be cleaned with smudges as well

4)Screen ,watching movies , Excel etc etc .Again I ask have u tried the macbook ? It has the best screen in the world which any person can notice . It can do all these tasks and provide a better experience as well in terms of sound .Razer has THX certification .but like u said its just words and numbers .Real speaker experience matter .in excel quickly scrolling around matters .So don't u think for the majority of the experience u defined. You. Would be good to go with a macbook ? ( yes I'm coming to the gaming part wait ) Also macbook with their space grey look will also get u stares .Intact macbooks with DBRAND skins get a lot of looks in the coolness factor .

5)The Gaming experience .From the comments you have made in this thread one thing is clear ." You are extremely satisfied with the gamin experience u have "
which us great .
So that also means that if we isolate the gamin experience any laptop which delivers the same experience should be fine.
So let's talk price .
The RBP costs a lot ..
The Auros x7 provides the same experience (sometimes better ) ...for a lesser price .
The macbook with a bizon box and titan Xp provides a better noticeable gaming experience ..for a lesser price


now let's connect all of the points .
The RBP costs 3.5~4K

In all the experiences you have listed the Auros and the macbook do it better or equal .This includes coolness design everything .Agreed with a macbook u will have to sit at a place to game.but then that will be easier to handle than any hot gaming laptop .
So finally that leaves us with the Auros .x7 .
Which costs lesser .
Delivers everything u have asked for and enjoyed .
Delivers it at a lower cost .
Why would u still buy the Razer blade pro .?

Im looking forward to your answer .
I'm not cornering you or trying to tell u that u are dumb .but as a fanboy .I shudnt be asking these questions ..
You should be asking these questions to Razer .
you should ask them why does the laptop run hot when a competitor provides a better experience .
you should ask them why does synapse mess up software for so many other users.
You should ask them why the components inside don't perform as they should .U don't notice .Yes I know that .But wont it be better that when u buy a Lamborghini it actually runs faster than civic? it's okay if u drive it down normally and don't race .But shouldn't u have an option to race .

And finally ask them as a fanboy .
If the Auros X7 does everything u like and want for a lesser price . why does Razer cost more ..









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Yes, @Prema makes all the difference. Without him there is no more laptops in my life ever again.

And, for the record, here is what a 15-inch laptop working right is supposed to look like. The price of this one is like icing on the cake.

 

I think for the 16L13 the perfect gpu is 1070, 1080 is way too hot and costs over 3K to purchase.

Not saying that it's a bad choice, but a 1070 makes more sense, esp given the pixel density of FHD screens on the a 15" form factor.

 

Perhaps that would be true if the focus we're playing games. For my purposes it's not good enough. For almost everything else Intel HD Graphics is good enough

 

Devil's advocate question. Is there any benefit to running an underpowered GTX1080 over a GTX1070. Let's assume both perform similarly in synthetic benchmarks. What advantage would there be to having the 1080? Which would you take?

 

None ..a gtx 1070 *is* an underpowered gtx 1080. Its the same chip . except for programs that take specific advantage of more cuda cores .
U can compare something like an underpowered 1070 and a 1060 for thermals and noise because they are different chips ..but not a 1080 and 1070

 

The under powered GTX 1080 still has 2500 pipelines vs the 2000 of the GTX 1070. Also 10000 MHz memory vs 8000 MHz.

Assuming the Razer blade GTX 1080 performs as a GTX 1070 in games and benchmarks; it still should be better for productivity software like NX 10, Solidworks, FEA software, etc. Things that don't rely as much on clock speed.

However a GTX 1070 should be more than enough to run any of those programs for most users. Only very advanced users running complicated simulations will notice a difference.

 

But some people connect with a better external screen. They use it as portable + desktop. And you can have your laptop a longer time If you opt for a faster graphics.

 

(1) As you can see in my signature I also own a MBP2016 version and I absolutely love it! Keyboard is awesome but I still enjoy the RBP more. Of course it is subjective as it is based on my opinion so that is a non sequitur Oh and yes as I have said previously I have owned a dozen gaming laptops (Alienware/OriginPC) and they had nice keyboards but I like this one better.
(2) I agree as when the internet is down Synapse is SNAFU, lol so they need to do better but I still enjoy it.
(3) The Auros are nice and maybe someday I will own one but for now the RBP is my choice for a thin and dazzling gaming laptop with bling lol
(4) Yep love my MacBook I guess I am somewhat spoiled to have both
(5) Yes I did ask these questions. And while you make logical and fair points it really came down to what I needed and wanted. I could have stayed with my OriginPC 17inch gaming laptop as it was excellent. Even with the GTX980. However I wanted the experience that the RBP gives me. It really is a "subjective" thing and maybe you don't understand but that is alright. Something that might help you understand my decision making is that I usually keep a laptop for 12-18 months, sell it and buy the next generation. I also have a wonderful gaming desktop for long gaming sessions.

I do appreciate your questions and comments my friend.

 

@Blazertrek50 .See u agree on most questions right ?
By going through the fact u haven't tried the Auros can u tell me the RBP is the best one ? U can't right ? Since u haven't even tried the competition ...
I'm not saying go buy an Auros .
But here is the thing ..the point that iunlock and Möbius are making is that there are better laptops out there ..
Even if u ignrore the specs and performance and everything ..
Experience wise alone even u can see there can be better to be had ..
I hope u try the Auros ..then come back and tell us what u felt different ..
Iunlock and Möbius have been doing this for ages ..sure u maynot like how they talk ..but it comes from certain foundation .
I'm glad u enjoy your product but here is the thing ..keep that mind open ..
I really hope u try an Auros ..
And this is subjective again ..from my view ..You will definitely like it better .
I would also like u to reply to an objective fact ..for people with not enough funds to buy everything ..who can buy only let's say one laptop ..can u suggest them an RBP confidently ? Without trying the Auros (yes I know u have tried AW and Origin PC stuff ) but u say ..

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Time Spy score FYI:

 

If you ignore comparisons to desktop Time Spy scores with massive overclocks, the RBP basically has a GTX 1070.

 

this is the point that we've been trying to get across to thick headed dumdums defending razer

it's just too poor of a value/performance in order to justify the machine

a comparable machine with a HK cpu + 1070 costs much less and you have the thermal freedom to tweak the 1070 further

even if the 1080 on the blade is "unlocked" to normal 150w nvidia spec tdp, the cooling system won't manage it


the form factor isn't that thin compared to other competing devices either

the 4K AUO screen could be had easily from other manufacturers since it's not special to razer

 

What I am saying is that the RBP V2 is the best 17.3 inch laptop for me at this time. That of course can change in 2017 or beyond. Does that make you happy?

 

LOL, I said I was done posting on this thread, but this is so entertaining, I can't stop refreshing to see the next comments.

And I agree 100% with Mobius on this one.

 

@Blazertrek50 when did I deny that ..and how is Mr being happy important ...and u didnt reply .
Also like I said ..u sure the RBP is the best for u ?
If so how ? ..I really wanna know.
You gave me your requirements. ..and your stuff that u care about.

There is a cheaper ..and better laptop that fulfills all those things that u need ...
And u haven't tried that ..
So I really wanna know why u feel that RBP I'd best ..
And do please reply to previous questions ..

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But I did reply, look back and you will see.

 

Yes I can say confidently to anyone who has the money that buying the RBP is an awesome experience. But I also admit that it might not be for everyone.

 

@Blazertrek alright ...
So putting this together in chronological order .
1) You (not me or other members ) told what YOU specifically liked about Razer blade pro .
2) I gave u an alternative which is better not objectively or subjectively ....it is better simply going by things u specifically like ...as in ur priority things .
3) u have never tried that alternative. .
4) and you would recommend the pricier RBP to a person with not enough funds without seeing the alternative ..that fulfils all u want .

U can't blame me for being a little lost here ..
But care to explain ? ..I'm all ears .



(PS -I'm looking for a laptop ...and the RB keeps popping up and down ..I had written it off ..but I wanna see every perspective ).

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Nope, as your opinion no matter what "facts" you use is subjective and I never agreed with them and yes I have tried out alternatives just not Quorus. I would only recommend the RBP to those that have the disposable income for it. Sigh, try not to wrap your mind around my value system, it really is ok that we do not agree on this. I am mostly a very logical person, and if you look at what I value than you can see that I have purchased my RBP V2 logically based upon my wants/needs/likes.

 

@Blazertrek50
.wait what ?
Wait what facts ...? I didn't say anything from my side at alll...

You told me what u want in this post

I provided u an alternative ...which again let me repeat ...is not based on my facts or my priorities or my opinions ..nothing me .All about you ..

All this was what you asked for .

I'm not saying u aren't satisfied ...I'm saying there is another product ..that u haven't experienced ..That fulfills everything YOU ask for ...and yet u are calling this the best u can have ..how is that possible ..if I didn't test the buggati veyron and simply said my civic is provides best experience ..how is that possible ? .I need to have tried the other one right ? .

See with that disposable cash ...someone could try both alternatives and then decide right ? ...how can u confidently recommend it ..even though u literally haven't tried the other alternative
..
This next part u don't have to reply to :
You call yourself a logical person . But I don't understand the logic of paying for a high end laptop and getting mid range performance..that is not logical ..that is subjective choice ..so please maybe refrain from saying logical choice ..that's a personal choice .



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Well said.

 

Why do you keep trying to get @Blazertrek50 to try/buy the Aorus. I agree that the 17" DT with the 1080, technically it is a superior laptop. But even I would never buy it..... That hideous logo ruins the machine. Every time I see it, the Eagles "Jaw" looks more like an arm


In practice, I would choose neither laptop. Nothing on the market ticks the boxes for 17" GTX 1080 light laptop right now. Would go 15" for the Evoc 16L-G-1080. At a little under 6.5 LBS it is the lightest GTX 1080 laptop there is, and 1.5" thick is not really that thick at all for practical purposes (I used to own Alienware 17 @ 2.2", now that was thick and heavy).

 

First time poster, about to receive a RBP in the next few days.

I find the discussion rather interesting and i dont really think anyone is right or wrong.

I didnt order the RBP because it has the best performance, and to be honest, you gotta be an idiot to think that you can get the best performance out of the components in that form factor. Its just not possible.

At the same time there are many logical reasons for getting one anyway. For me its going to be my work machine. Working with a lot of development projects simultaneously in virtual machines and after scanning the market there are very few laptops that live up the the requirements.

32GB of memory is a very rare thing, and narrows it down a lot. Most of the bigger ones like Dell and HP offer laughable specs at a for the spec rather high price point. The biggest concern for me though is storage, having a 1TB MBP that is filled and an external 1TB SSD also being filled my min requirement is 2TB. And again, a hybrid disk in a still pretty pricy laptop just isnt acceptable. Neither is a less than 1TB disk in whatever form factor.

Form factor is also important, dragging a blinged gaming laptop to customers isnt ok. Weight i dont really care about, if you have a problem carrying a 2-4kg laptop the money is probably better invested in a gym. Thickness is a factor though, as is the overall volume of the machine since its gotta fit in a decently small bag.

Was hoping for the new MBP, but seeing how it seems more important with weight and battery life than raw performance i didnt really see it as an option. Why would i buy a 5k machine (price point where i live for a full speced one) to browse for 10 hours?

Taking all that into consideration i pretty much choose between a RB and a RBP. The two disk slots in the RBP won out in the end. Other laptops with the same possibilities simply seemed more flimsy and blingy. Or just too bulky.

Do i think its the best bang for the buck? Hell no, performance when put under pressure is likely to be less than hoped for. But im not likely to ever max out CPU and GPU at the same time. Especially since the GPU is a bonus rather than a requirement.

Do i think its the best laptop for me? Not sure but short of actually testing all the alternatives i would say that it probably is.

Now im just hoping to get a unit without mechanical failures. Not getting 100% of the potential out of the 1080 i can live with. Parts being broken i can not.

But i also gotta say that if you are looking for pure performance its not the best laptop from what i have read and seen. Buying through work id rather spend 4k on something with the right spec (for me) than 2k on something halfway there.

My point is mainly that people exist that dont have the same requirements as the general consumer. Something to consider before stating that X is better than Y for reason Z, why would anyone buy Y?

 

It is a JAW???! I really honestly thought it was a fist... And I always associated the Aorus logo to this:


On the whole RBP discussion. Buying the best performed laptop for price/performance ratio is not always a logical process.
Its the same with a car for many people. You take one look at it and then you love it. Then when you feel it it feels nice enough so you want it.
In a way I am like that so I can defo see blazetreks love for the RBP. Similar to buying a leather phone-sleeve.
It does not protect your phone while using it. While costing a premium. Still I own a leather phone sleeve...

At this point im pretty sure @Blazertrek50 knows that the Aorus has better thermals/price/performance. And still that doesnt sway him. If anything I would give creds to razer for that. To create a product that users love so much despite their flaws.
It simply would NOT happen with MSI.

 

I though the aorus eagle had a giant gentleman's sausage?

 

@ThatOldGuy
I have no intention to make him buy an Auros ..
Do I think he should try an Auros before he says the RBP is the best experience for him? Yes .
Here is the blatant truth .. Its okay that he does what he likes ..
However in this forum where people who wanna look a little further than what reviewers put out .They should consider everything .
See like u just said ..U hate the logo ..End of discussion .
If he said .".I want mid spec performance .I enjoy it .and I shall pay more because I don't like the logo on the laptop " I'll totally be cool with it ..but he has to say it no ? .
I'm trying to be as objective here as possible without trying to judge any laptop .Heck I even suggested a macbook .XD .
As for personal opinion .I like the aero 15 because I agree with u ..the top end simply doesn't tick all boxes for me

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@Buffle ..see you are saying logical things ..Im just baffled a bit by what he said ..
U said .I like leather pouch due to aesthetics ..hence I prefer that over other stuff ..
Cool ..Perfect ..See you gave a reason ..and u acted according to ur reason .
He however gave reasons too ..read the thread or my quoted passage ..
These reasons included looks,keyboard ,coolness factor etc .
There is a so to say better laptop for him for the reasons he stated ..
Like that leather pouch discussion .
Let's say u paid 300$ for that leather pouch .
What if on the market there is a better leather lunch for 150$ ..wud u buy the original one .?
The discussion about it being protective or not is already dismissed in the thread ..I totally went by the reasons and logic he gave ..and he doesnt stick to that .I just want to understand why ..

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@Nim79, I think you will like the machine, assuming that you are free of mechanical issues.

Here is my general take now that I've had it for a few days:

I think the RBP is like a Ferrari from the early 1990s. Expensive, temperamental, highly sought after, questionable quality control, abysmal customer service, very high performance, beautiful to look at, beautiful to touch, laughably ****ty price/performance ratio. Other car manufacturers offered equal or significantly greater performance for equal or much lower prices. Corvettes, 911s, NSX, the new crop of cheaper Japanese sports cars like the Supra, RX-7, 3000GT, 300ZX. Razer has built a 1992 Ferrari.

The form factor is slick as hell. The machine truly is beautiful. Performance wise, GTX1070ish stats in a laptop this thin are nothing to laugh about and should drive almost all games to their fullest potential. If running at max settings on the 4K panel, there is always GSync to smooth things out if FPS drops below 60. I'll admit, there is some butthurt knowing that the machine has an intentionally crippled 1080, almost certainly for marketing reasons. It stings a little. It also stings that marketing had their day with the overclockable processor. Is it overclockable? Yes. With the GPU also at max load? Nope.

At the end of the day, I'm actually quite happy with the machine. I didn't want anything bigger/thicker. I love the design...I truly do love it. MSI, Auros, AW, etc, do not offer a machine that looks this good or has a similar form factor. The keyboard has been awesome so far. The screen is the best I've seen on a laptop. Ever.

I'll use this machine primarily for CAD/CFD work with occasional VR work. The GTX1070 performance is well more than I need for any of those tasks. The processor itself can actually overclock if the GPU is not loaded. This is ideal for CFD work where the GPU will sit idle while I burn up the CPU. For gaming, both the 4K panel and my external 34" Dell ultrawide have 60Hz refresh rates. Frankly, there is no benefit to pushing more than 65-70 fps in most games since I can't realize that performance on my monitors. The "1070" is enough for me.

And here is the kicker. This is the big reason that I find this machine acceptable and can look past the performance overstatements. I did not pay for it. This is a company machine and a few thousand here or there don't really mean anything to a large corporation. I know not everyone on the forum is lucky enough to be in the same boat, but it is what it is. I didn't pay for it. Price to performance ratio is the least of my worries.

Now, as for Razer as a company. I'm not sure exactly where to pin the blame. Engineering may have bit off more than they can chew not being able to check all the boxes without asterisks. Marketing certainly played a role. I think what they did with this machine and the price they charge for it is pretty lame. I understand they are more of a boutique supplier compared to AW, but then again, so are Auros, MSI, and the rest of them. Maybe they are letting profit drive business a bit too much. Maybe their internal costs are out of control and they need to charge more to stay afloat. Maybe they are greedy bastards. It's probably all of the above.

TL;DR: The Razer Blade Pro is an overpriced, relatively high power gaming machine. Know that going in, and you'll probably be satisfied.

 

@Num79 welcome to the thread .Its always helpful to have more thoughts and opinions on the table .
VM ? So u don't like the dell precision series or workstation class ? Correct me if I'm wrong here ..don't they come with xeons and workstation class GPU ? I don't know ..please give insight .

32GB is rare ? I don't know of a laptop which doesn't support it except Apple. Again feel free to correct me .

Price wise yes . There is simple craziness at high end .
As for disk if u have the time or patience please look into OWC macbook ssds ..they seem to offer higher capacities ..u can probably swap out stuff. .Just something to consider.

Blinged out stuff being stupid .That is something I agree to both subjectively and objectively ..CAN SOMONE CALM DOWN THE RGB OF PCMR .okay done ..moving on

The MBP can't run VMs ? It has a 6900HQ? .I'm guessing it should pull of loads ..but then doesn't have ram so out of the window ..

If u had a close choice between RB and RBP ..did u see the aero 15 (very biased and this is something I would convince u to buy since I'm so biased ..its a ready nice laptop ..)
So yeah it comes with 32Gb. And has a usable 1060.

Have fun with ur RBP ..I hope u have a great experience ..but please post your experience as well ..what u like and don't

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@slimjim8201 and that right there is the best answer to this forum ..absolutely best .its covers everything ..
I sincerely hope u don't have QC issues because otherwise u are good to go

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32GB is pretty rare to be honest. Gaming laptops can sometimes be fitted with it, but even if the laptop supports it its no point if its soldered on. Yes, it can still be upgraded but im not gonna solder memory to a 2500+ machine.

I run VMs on my laptop. I work on a laptop and i move around a lot. A workstation isnt an option. Dell dont really offer that kind of performance in their laptops, and if they do theres usually something lacking specwise while still being extremely expensive.

The MBP runs VMs just fine, im working on a 2013 right now. But im not gonna pay even more than for the RBP to get a... spec from 2015.

All in all, options considered this is what is best for me on paper. If it is in reality remains to be seen but not running CPU or GPU at the same time i suspect the RBP will be an excellent machine for me.

EDIT: Got curious and just checked some alternatives. The new XPS15 looks pretty sharp from a work perspective. The only thing lacking really is a 2nd disk slot, which i can probably live without. Still pretty expensive on the full spec though, cheaper than the RBP for sure. Think they upped the memory options since i last looked as well, thats nice.

The Aero 15 also looks pretty nice. Couldnt find any price on it locally, but looking at the 14 it sure isnt cheap either. The dual disk slot is absolutely a plus for me.

Still feel that the RBP is a sharper choice for me. Especially considering that price wise im more sensitive to lacking specs/price rather than the price itself. But should it disappoint, the Aero 15 is absolutely an alternative to check out.

 

@Nim79 . holy **** u hadn't checked the xps 15 ? .just be aware there costumer support I'd good but the QC is okay okay .

Biased praise coming in :
1)The aero 15 can get 32Gigs of ram .
2) Dual disk as u mentioned ..
3)holy **** accurate display (literally the most accurate probably second to apple )
4) that 94 WHR battery ..

Biased rant over .

Like I said keep us posted ..it would be nice to this machine tested with VMs pushing the CPU


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What?! MSI, Clevo, Dell/Alienware, Aorus/Gygabyte, Asus, EVGA (sc17), and Acer all offer gaming laptops with 32 GB of ram installed. Lenovo and HP gaming lines don't offer it, but support it.