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    [GUIDE] - Blind-Flashing AMD 7970M modded vBIOS for Clevo P1xxHM Laptops

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jaybee83, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Misdemeanor

    Misdemeanor Notebook Consultant

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    Furmark Burn-in Score: 1903 points
    18790 frames, 20 FPS, 103 degrees celsius
    FPS: min: 15, max: 28, avg: 20

    Clocks:
    GPU core: 850, memory: 1200
    Drivers: 13-1
     
  2. tbert03

    tbert03 Notebook Geek

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    That seems a bit high. I ran Furmark for 30 mins and the GPU plateaued at 78C. I applied IC7, the foil tape mod, and elevated the back of the notebook slightly.
     
  3. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    ouch, 103C is definitely waaaay too high. with a 25% OC, ICD7, foil tape mod and the back of my machine slightly raised i get like 81C after 20min. of furmark. re-check ur paste job, make sure the heatsink screws are tight, clean out ur heatsink fins and vents of dust, apply some aluminum adhesive foil on the miniscule gaps between the fan casing and the heatsink fins and make sure to slightly raise the back of your laptop (i myself are using a pair of plastic bottlecaps, works wonders! :p )

    cheers
     
  4. Misdemeanor

    Misdemeanor Notebook Consultant

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    Will do! I'm seeing weird issues with Far Cry 3 where it runs fine at about 50-60 FPS then throttles back and drops to about 15-18 FPS every once in a while..

    Have any of you seen this? Also does anyone have a vBIOS editor?
     
  5. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    well that makes sense, once ur gpu reaches such high temps it probably starts throttling to cool down a bit before ramping up to its usual clocks. i would take care of the steps mentioned above first before continuing to play games, seriously. ure not doing ur gpu a favor by stressing it further!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Hey, just wanted to log it in here (haven't read the thread page to page) that this method is also a great tool for getting a P1x0EM 7970m card working in a Dell Alienware m15x (not Area 51) which also does not have an IGP. I just sold my 7970m from the P170EM and the guy couldn't get it running for many hours due to black screen and tried everything. Then finally he used the blindflash method and flashed a Dell VBIOS to the card, and voila. I guess same result would come with HM VBIOS :)

    So thanks Jaybee83 for documenting this so well here. Now I guess you could add a note that it can be useful for m15x (not M15x Area 51)

    (Edit: darn can't give you any more rep until i spread some, but I wont forget)
     
  7. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    haha well aint that something!? glad to hear that this guide can even help users outside the clevo community :p will update the OP with ur post here :) thanks for the heads-up!

    cheers
     
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    brockwv11 Newbie

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    Hello. I have a P150HM and I just bought a 7970m upgrade for it. Problem is I already sold my 6990m. I am reading all this about updating the vbios. Am I in trouble for selling my old one before I updated? can I still update by putting in the new 7970m first?
     
  9. tbert03

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    I would assume the blind part of blind-flashing means it can be done without using a screen. You just have to be very careful with what you type since you won't be able to see anything.

    Are you positive you even need to flash? A lot cards come pre-flashed if the seller knows it's going into a HM notebook.
     
  10. brockwv11

    brockwv11 Newbie

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    Yes. I see now that the seller has something that says 'I recommend that you upgrade your bios to 14'. whatever that means... but I guess ill find out when I get it.
     
  11. TR2N

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    First try the 7970 and see if it actually works and no extra work will be required.
    Second, if the card shows no display but boots into windows then you will be required to flash the vbios of the card. Since you have sold your 6990 and cannot enter bios screen of your notebook I am not sure how you can attempt to fix the card. Sure, you can make usb flashable and put files onto it via another computer but I am not sure how you can enter your notebook bios screen and change priority list to boot from usb first. If you find yourself in this situation you probably will need to find someone who has similar notebook and attempt to flash via their notebook or send it back to seller and request them to do it assuming they too have a P1XXHM notebook.

    Good luck.
     
  12. PrinceBlack

    PrinceBlack Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Guys ... I need you and your information.
    I modified the G73JH installing the Clevo 7970M and I upgraded the CPU to a i7-940XM ...
    the card works with the VBIOS enduro off.
    My problem is with the power, the motherboard reduces the workload of the video card even when the CPU is under stress. Surely the motherboard also reduces the load on the CPU because both exceed 150 watts provided.
    I have a 240 Watt power supply DELL.
    I need to modify my VBIOS for G73JH
    I have to lower the voltage ... I have a VBIOS 850/1200 1.00 Volts.
    How can I change the voltage?
    Thanks to all
     
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    Will this work on a gtx670?
     
  14. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    i wouldnt recommend flashing a 670m with an amd vbios ;) also, atiflash as a vbios flash tool wouldnt work on an nvidia card.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  15. jaybee83

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    no trouble really. in case it doesnt come preflashed, heres what u do:

    - take out all hdds and the optical drive, that way when u plug in ur usb stick it will automatically be in first boot priority

    - install ur 7970m

    - prepare the usb stick on another computer using the autoexec.bat as described in the OP

    - blind-flash and enjoy :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  16. Yoshigure

    Yoshigure Notebook Guru

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    Hello, just curious, is possible to unlock AMD overdrive on P150EM ?
    Nice guide btw :)
     
  17. jaybee83

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    as far as ive heard from other EM users, its not possible unfortunately :(
     
  18. Yoshigure

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    Thanks anyway :thumbsup:
     
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    zibi_pl Newbie

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    Hello, i want buy and blind flash 7970. Card cost me 370 E but shop dont flash it. I must do i myself.
    System spec:
    17.3" FHD/GT ( 16:9 1920x1080 ) Glare Type Hannstar HSD173PUW1
    i7-2630QM ( 2.0 GHz )
    AMD Radeon HD 6990M 2GB
    8GB DDR3 1333 SDRAM (2x4G)
    500BG HDD 7200rpm SATA
    8x Super Multi DVD Drive
    Integrated 2M Digital Video Camera
    Fingerprint Reader
    Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 Wi-fi
    10/1000 Ethernet

    In 1st post i have all file what i need, but i read about bios and Voltage. What you opinion ? Stock or OV ? Can i have any problem witch make this by myself ? If flash and brick card i lost warranty ;/ if not brick and card work - lost warranty too :p
    ps. sorry for my bad eng ;)
     
  20. jaybee83

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    both the stock and ov versions are identical except for the gpu core voltage. in ur case i would flash the stock one first and check how ur OC clocks and temps are. only when temps are good and ure not happy yet with OC clocks would i go to an ov vbios :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yep, you can't on a switchable setup unfortunately.

    Also yes, always good to explore each core voltage to find which gives the best performance/temp for you.
     
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    Hi guys! I came here to ask for some help!
    I have a 7970m in my g73jh but I want to undervolt it
    But I only be able to find vbios with high voltages
    Could someone that have contact with svl7 to md this vbios?
    Thanks a lot and I found a way to do it in CCC profile but I think
    It isn't working because gpuz shows the same stock 1.0 v
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...0m-benchmark-results-only-68.html#post9059190
    Thanks again
    Bye
     
  23. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    hmm...go ahead and try different values for the undervoltage, cuz i think that the gpu core has predefined voltage steps that dont allow and intermittent values. for example it would only support 0.95v but not 0.99 or anything else between 1.0 and 0.95v. so go ahead and play around with that first, see if it helps any :)

    also make sure to give some feedback on ur results here, would surely help other users!

    cheers
     
  24. By_cleiton

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    Hi guys I came back again
    I tried to undervolt my card without any lucy but i was able to increase the voltage from 1 to 1.05 and it worked perfect! I did a OC to 950/1400 with no problems but the undervolt that i want to do it isnt possible yet! so sad....
    Maybe a vbios
    Bye

    Edit
    Hit 1000/1400 1.05v =D
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6059066
     
  25. F1r3

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    Nice score for a Intel 720QM xD

    Is there a chance to upgrade your CPU to a 920XM or something like that - but now your CPU is holding back your 7970m in performance.
     
  26. By_cleiton

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    Yes I know!
    I did a little bit oc to my 720 with setfsb to 1.83 and hit p6111 on 3dmark11
    Imy temps were 75c but in real game scene I saw temps like 84
    It is ok because my room was very hot!! I live in brazil so the temps here is so high
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yeah the temperature issues are not so much here in scotland!

    The 920Xm overclock may introduce power/heat issues and for gaming he should be good even with the 720qm.
     
  28. jaybee83

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    talking about scotland! watching braveheart right now, havent seen this in ages! :D
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yes a perfectly historically accurate rendition of the region :p
     
  30. jaybee83

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    of course! i take it for granted that ure still all running around in dirty skirts and faking that wonderful scot accent, all the while bickering about whos to be king of scotland and how to get rid of those damn english! :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well being originally English myself, less of the talk of kicking them out :p
     
  32. Yoshigure

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    Hey jaybee83, I found other way to OC my AMD, I have a question that maybe you can help me, what are the "safe" values to OC this card ? I try 960/1400 so far my temps are not too high (68ºc - 73ºc), I didn't notice many diferences in fps on bf3 multiplayer, well maybe more 5 fps sometimes but in general framerates are in 60 fps - 80 fps (90fps sometimes) in conquest.

    First time I overclock a GPU, I have no ideia how to work with voltage..
     
  33. Yoshigure

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    Yes, I am doing that right now on Afterburner, so far I tested 860/1400 and check the temps and seems to be everything okay.
     
  34. jaybee83

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    hey buddy!

    difficult question to give a straight answer to, since every gpu has its own max. oc values. what i can tell u is to first focus on ocing the gpu core, since thatll give u more of a performance boost than ocing the memory. so leave the memory at stock values and slowly go up in gpu clocks until u get instabilities. then go back down to the last stable clock, leave it at that and repeat the whole thing with the memory clocks. ive seen cards go up to 1050-1060 on stock voltage and 1090 when overvolted. memory clocks can come close to 1600, but again: every card is different so no idea how well urs will oc :) thats for u to find out ;)

    as for overvolting, just check out the OP in the 7970m thread in my signature, itll show u all u need to know on how to flash an overvolted vbios (only if ure on an hm machine, of course)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    With the overvolt it's worth checking every voltage step as every chip acts differently to the increased voltage.
     
  36. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    duh,just realized that this already is the thread i just pointed u towards :p hard to keep track with all these threads sometimes :D

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  37. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Lol, welcome to my world :p

    But directing people to the OP in a long thread can be surprisingly effective ^-^
     
  38. demaarten

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    guys. As I'm having big troubles overclocking with my p150em with msi afterburner. I would like to flash an overclock to my 7970m. Any ideas where I can find overclocked P150em Vbios's for my 7970m?

    Thanks

    installing Msi afterburner with disabling ulps make my system completely unstable (BSOD). BTW, is windows 8 better for this?
     
  39. jaybee83

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    does it get unstable right away at stock clocks or only when u try to oc?

    iirc the guys over at techinferno had some overvolted vbios for the 7970m in the em series? do u know anything about that meaker?

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  40. demaarten

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    It get's unstable after changing the ulps setting to get the sliders to work in MSI afterburner. If I restart, The gpu use is 99% at idle, and it does not go to the lower clocks when not gaming. Strange...

    I am not overclocking at that moment
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    I would re-install the drivers and go through the ULPS process very carefully once more and make sure you only change the ones you are supposed to.
     
  42. jaybee83

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    what meaker said. basically, the ulps values are governors for the power-saving features of the gpu. so if u mess something up there, it could very well be the reason for ur gpu artificially being kept at full load even without any real program using it.
     
  43. demaarten

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    btw, is it true that windows 8 is better for overclocking? I am using windows 7 now, but I just bought windows 8 for the upgrade price.

    thanks
     
  44. jaybee83

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    i dunno about overclocking but when it comes to overall stability and smoothness of operation, windows 8 is definitely better than win7 :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Hi, I've been planning on upgrading my MSI GT780DXR to the AMD HD7970m. I know where to get the GPU and heatsink, but need help on the BIOS part. I'm stuck at the part where it says just to do the dry run. Once i type in that command, do i press enter, or just exit out of it? Then it says that once i make sure all my keyboard buttons are okay, then i install the HD7970m. But then when do i type it in? And if someone can just maybe tell me how to do all this, but a little simpler, then that would be great. But other than that, great guide!
     
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    haha, sorry for the confusion buddy :) u can basically just ignore the part about the dry run and just use the autoexec.bat

    so go ahead and read the whole OP including the updates, i hope then it will be clear :) basically, all u have to do is prepare the usb stick, put the autoexec.bat file on it, make sure its got first boot priority in ur system bios, stick it in after uve installed the 7970m, switch on ur machine and wait till it reboots on its own :) thats it

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  47. teuing

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    hello guys.
    I've been wondering, is it possible to flash VBIos to a different card manufacturer (e.g. Flashing Dell VBIOS to a Clevo Card)
    Because I found an MSI 7970M card, which a bit cheaper (USD440 @ eBay) than Dell or Clevo one.

    Any help would be very appreciated.
    Thanks :)
     
  48. jaybee83

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    dell cards definitely dont work on clevos. as for msi cards, not sure about that. how much of a price difference would it be,anyways? i would definitely not recommend crossflashing vbios versions from different manufacturers, the risk of bricking the card could be pretty significant. in cases such as this, id rather spend several extra bucks and go for sure rather than taking the risk of having to buy a second gpu cuz i bricked the first one ;) just my 2c.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  49. scee626

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    Hi guys,

    I've been following this thread for some time and decided to upgrade my p150hm with a 7970m based upon some of the results I've read here. I received and installed my preflashed 7970m without any complications. The issue for me is after I install the ati display drivers on my operating system (win7/ubuntu). When I wipe the display drivers off my system and use the standard vga driver, I am able to output my display to an external monitor via dvi. When the drivers are installed, the external monitor will work up to the windows load screen but will quickly go blank afterwards . I tried the same thing in linux, and got the same results when removing/installing drivers. The laptop display works without a problem regardless of driver(s).

    This is my 2nd card from the seller. With the first card, the support person thought it may be a defective card so he issued an rma for me.

    -same result on 3 monitors using different cables
    -different driver versions
    -removed cmos battery

    Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your time.
     
  50. jaybee83

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    weird, here i thought that only hdmi was affected, whereas dvi worked without a hitch? anyone else able to report something similar? i for one am not really using external monitors, so cant comment on that...

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