12.11 Beta3 finally here

I found anothrer problem with this driver With battlefield 3. Almost every time I wanna join a server, once a game is loaded bf3.exe stops working and I have to try again. Somethimes it takes 10 tryes to start the game.
Anybody having this problem ??

 

eeee...mmmm...you are hopeless...

Underutilization or lower than 100% GPU usage is normal as it was properly explained some pages ago, just watch Jarreds tables, 7970M is much more utilized than 680M or other cards with the new drivers, 100% usage its just not the bar to be measured, but average and lowest FPS, and that has been tested and reported properly by many, the results are very promising and even beyond many people's expectations i dare saying.

And there is no AMD team assembly, most reporters are either new posters or old complainers, only a few sad bunch is still grim and negative..... wakeup already!

Is it really so bad that AMD has raised to the challenge???? Do you really want a fix or are you some kind of cloaked Nvidia representative trying to pour garbage on AMDs every effort?
True it was not timely, true its not complete and stable, but common............................ thats water under the bridge, no one will forget this happened, but struggling to keep drowning and crying its just stupid.

 

Hi there !

I was so exiting to instal theses new drivers but I've got big problems :s

I try so many things but my problem is still the same :
I can open CCC, when I double clic on it, a white windows appears and 2 sec after just fade out. I don't have the shortcut to choose wich card I want to use.

I tried to :
- Uninstall ati driver + intel + driverweeper + instal intel driver for the hd4000 + install ati driver.
- And a lot of other combination

It's always the same :'(

IMO it's the intel vga drivers that don't work well.

My configuration :
Clevo
p150em
3610
7970m

I've got the last bios version and tried with this version of intel driver http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21430&lang=eng (and the last one).

I wanted to download the clevo driver from their website but ftp seems to be down.

If somebody have a solution that will be so kind.

thx,

exo

 

It is a working driver. Don't blame the driver for installing it wrong.

Anyway, I think AMD did a great job, some of you are just a lost cause and I hope AMD doesn't go nuts reading it and smacking their heads. Really, there is no pleasing some of you. ROFL, anyway, done with all this. Just amazes me these complaints.

 

Lol, playing LA Noire atm with its crappy 30 FPS cap and experiencing under-utilisation in this... getting about 21 FPS on average. Come on AMD...

 

.....He didn't use the 100% as a bar for measuring, he used the non-enduro 7970M, which is still a lot better. There is obviously still issues with Enduro, and there will be few "thank you"s until the issue is fixed (cold, hard fact). Arcticjoe made a sound case, so I really don't know what your problem with the post is?

 

Likewise, I don't really understand why people have been attacking him recently just for stating it like it is... the fact is a lot of people have had this card for a lot longer than Vozier and have grown extremely fed up with the way AMD has dealt with the whole situation and lack of support. People have had every right to be pissed off. In saying that, yes this driver is a huge step up from previous performance and I realise that it will only take longer to raise the card to the standard of non-Enduro based configurations; I'm just hoping AMD doesn't rest on their laurels and continues to listen to the community and bring this card to the level it should be at with dx9, 10 and 11 games.

 

arcticjoe will never be satisfied unless he has a 680M. Who knows why he hasn't switched yet already. And it seems the few who aren't saying thanks, are like him then.

Well I hope you all enjoy having fun being angry and unhappy.

 

I have been monitoring constantly with Hwinfo, and the lowest I have seen is 85% utilization, and framerates were above 60 fps at the time. This was in BF3 single player. And before anyone tells me that single player didn't suffer from enduro issues (that gets said a lot), yes it did, just not as badly as mp. I saw plenty of instances of 50-60% utilization in single player before the fix, though framerates were generally good anyway. I played Caspian Border two days ago with extremely stable framerates (40-70 fps.) It was before I got Hwinfo up and running with rivatuner to display utilization so I didn't get a chance to monitor it there yet.

Aside from that, I have played Batman AC (which was COMPLETELY borked before) at an average of 50 fps and 90%+ utilization. I also played Saints Row the Third (also screwed up before), Max Payne 3, Sleeping Dogs (also screwed up before), and others, and none has showed any prolonged slowdown or utilization under 90% during gameplay. I can take video of each of these running at 60fps with ultra settings/v-sync/medium aa and include utilization. While some people may be seeing some issues still, from what I have seen the situation is improved by a massive margin. As far as I can tell, the issue has been pretty much resolved, as every single one of my games easily runs at 60fps at near max settings (I normally don't max out aa as it kills framerates.) This was impossible to do before, as lowering settings simply lowered utilization. There may still be isolated under-utilization, but it is much less common than before.

You have always been quick to call people who disagree with you amd "fanbois." It's pretty obnoxious, especially since you are included in a minority of 7970m owners who has constantly bashed amd while showing skepticism that a fix would actually come out. Just because someone disagrees with your opinions doesn't mean they're a "fanboy." You have implied that I'm a fanboy in the past, but I've told you that this is my first amd card; I've had nvidia cards in the past and generally liked their performance. The majority of 7970m owners have been pleased with their purchases, and are even more so now that the enduro issue is pretty much fixed. Just because they have different views than you doesn't mean they're fanboys or that your opinion is more valid than theirs. It's a lame way of discrediting people and adds nothing of value to the conversation. No one here is any more an "amd fanboy" than you are an "nvidia fanboy," so maybe you could try expressing your opinion without making weak generalizations about anyone who disagrees with you.

/rant lol

Like I said before, I haven't had a chance to test utilization in BF3's multiplayer, but I will do that today. I have played some though, and there are substantial improvements in the large maps like caspian border.

 

Don't worry, while he thinks some of us are AMD fanboys, I think he's an AMD hater, it seems to be his hobby since he keeps saying 680M is better and wished he had a 680M but refuses to get it. From that I can only conclude, he enjoys having a 7970M and hating it and raging on forums about it.

 

lol
10char

 

There is a tad of irony in that statement . And why did you suddenly attack me for posting news of a new mobile GPU?

 

Sucks that this conversation is getting so personal.

 

because you're an nvidia fanboy! lol

I'm just sad because artocjoe insulted my favorite company in the whole wide world

 

Well, ZERO improvement at max payne 3. Same poor performance, around 35 fps.

Guys, let's give feedback to AMD about the problems that still persist.
Please fill out this form: AMD Issue Reporting Form for AMD Catalyst

I think other forms of expression are also valid, like messages to catalyscreator´s tweeter and posts on blogs like Anandtech

 

What are your settings? I get a constant 60 fps with everything maxed except for aa. You know it's a demanding game, right? Neither the 680m or 7970m handle it that well with everything maxed out. 35 fps is only bad if you're not maxed out.

 

Well, I'm willing to go on record, as someone who was very skeptical about AMD's progress on the driver end, that I am very pleased with 12.11. I wasn't sure if it would ever come and it took them a while, but I'm so glad it's here.

I already posted in other threads that I see gains in fps across the board on the games I've tested it on and I'm very much pleased. If this beta 4 can do this, I can only imagine how much better it will be when AMD continues to tweak it like they say they would.

 

Same here man. It's like having a brand new gpu. Such a great feeling, especially when I saw my benchmark scores for the first time

 

Okay, so I tried to reinstall clevo drivers (intel + ati) ---> ccc works

Then I installed the 12.11 drivers ---> ccc doesn't open

when I look in the device driver everything is okay.

I'm going mad :s

 

My settings:
Directx 11, Resolution 1920x1080/ 8x anisotropic filter/ Very High FXAA/ 4x MSAA/ All other settings very high, including tesselation.
Average FPS: 35 FPS.

With same settings, guys of notebookcheck ran Max Payne 3 at 60FPS on alienware m18x with 7970m(an enduro-off machine): AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

Same here. We know it's not all done since the release notes even say there will be another fix coming for DX9, so that really irritates me when people complaining of DX9 games. Anyway, this is only the first release, there may be more and better drivers to come, but overall I am also happy. I'm getting excellent framerate in most games, most of em well above 60 FPS. MP3 for example, well beyond my expectations.

You're completely wrong on MP3. I haven't seen it dip below 60 FPS for about 2 hours I played last night. It is butter smooth. The problem is on your part, not the drivers.

 

Well, I tried several times. Deleted and downloaded again on steam. Always same performance .
And I believe I installed the drivers correctly, because battlefield 3 is running very well

Can you please take a prinscreen of max payne 3 graphics settings and post here, so I can repeat your setup? Thanks!

 

I have the same settings, except for 16x anisotropic filter and v-sync but only 2x MSAA and I average close to 60 fps... Maybe try lowering aa to 2x and see if you get a bump in fps? Mine are rock solid and sit at 60 fps constantly. I just checked to make sure.

edit: I just did a fraps benchmark with with msaa set to x4, everything else maxed out, and I averaged 51 fps. Not sure what's causing yours to be lower

 

So you basically saying that people who report under-utilization issues in BF3 multiplayer must be wrong, because you've tested in single player and it was alright? ok, cant argue with that logic. Caspian border is not a good map to test on, even before the hotfix you could get average of 95+% utlization on that map.

To be honest I have labeled as many people AMD fanbois as I have Nvidia fanboys - if someone overlooks facts and logic because they own a specific brand of a graphic card then in my eyes they are a fanboy... so i just call it like I see it.

 

We dont have the same driver that Jarred has, and we are testing in a different way to Jarred, he did not test BF3 MP. Also, I am not comparing to 680m, I am comparing to 7970m without enduro.

what are you jabbering on about? Since this driver came out I have been nothing but positive about it, - I just pointed out that some people cannot stand any AMD criticism, even when its based on facts.

 

No need for screenshot, I just maxed everything except AA.

 

MSAA and FXAA?
I tested with FXAA at very high and MSAA at 4x.
Do you left these two filters off?
Thanks

 

I do in general for all games. Anti-Aliasing is just a fancy way of saying blurring edges. I don't much care for it at 1080p on my 15" screen.

I highly doubt it's your game settings, it's your system settings. I would redo everything and go over everything. Whatever tweaks you may have done or changes to your system, remove em. Do a clean install etc.

Don't know if it matters to anyone, but I also force HPET in Win7.
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1...n-bios-and-os-for-better-performance-and-fps/

 

Well, Hitman Sniper Challenge is suffering from some woeful under-utilisation. Average utilisation of around 40-50% and FPS between 30 and 45ish. My brother's 580m can max it and get a constant 60+ FPS no problem. And that is a dx11 game. Not that I play it that much so it doesn't really bother me, but it is evident that this driver has not fixed everything.

 

Once i get home I'll test without MSAA and FXAA.
I formatted the windows before installing the new drivers, then I believe that there is no problem with the system.
I only installed steam, origin and and some games...

I´ll test and post the results here. Thanks for the help

Ps: This thread about HPET is very interesting...

 

It's obvious to me your install and your system if fubar.

 

Lol, come in spinner. Somehow I knew that would be your instant response. It's obvious to me that you're an impulsive, uninformed cretin. If what you're saying is the case, how come every other game I've tried runs extremely well? I doubt you even have Hitman SC so stop with the instant 'your install is fubar' responses and learn to listen.

 

Really this is the only game? Seemed to me you were complaining a whole lot about this 11.12 for the past few days.

In a few minutes I will try this DX11 game and I'll bet I'll have no issues with it.

 

I downloaded drivers before 2 days but didn't install them because of my mid term exam. But I just installed them now and Wow , huge difference in BF3 , saint row 3 and these games I tried so far. Anyway for those people saying they didnt get difference in fps , its probably because you didn't remove all ati drivers , and some of them functioned with new driver files which they carry the under-utlilization problem . Here is how to un-install driver properly:

1. install driver fusion (google it)
2. un-install ati driver, make sure its express
3. now boot in safe mode, launch driver fusion > select amd , inttel > click clean.
4 . if some files didn't clean at first try, restart and do step 3 again. if they are still some file didn't clean leave them this time .
5. now on safe mode follow these instruction from this website:
how to properly uninstall ATI/AMD Software Drivers for Graphics Cards.

6. restart windows normally.
7. install newest in driver from here ( follow instruction):
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/693523-intel-hd-graphics-9-17-10-2867-a.html

8. reboot

9. go to amd site intall the latest 12.11 beta 4 (note: when cat 12.11 it had some bugs so amd pulled from their site temporarily to fix them and they posted again , so you might have the bugged driver) + install 12.10 cap 1.

10. you might experiences bsod 2-3 times just like me after installation. I noticed that in problem might be from catalyst power selection application profile , its trying too assign programs power include explorer + antivirus so it bsod. I restarted 3 times and worked flawlessly after that

 

Really I can't belive that I'm the only one who can't launch CCC after the update and can't acces to the switchable graphics

Edit : I'll try your tips king601

 

No, if you actually read and didn't assume, you'd see I've had good experiences across the board and praised the performance increase. There are a few niggling under-utilisation issues that are still present which I hope are ironed out in time. Think you're getting me confused with somebody else you've slammed as having a 'fubar' install. Be sure to post an in-game screenshot with FRAPS for Hitman. There's a good chap.

Ps. why you so hostile when someone says they have a different result to you?

 

Putting you on ignore, not going to read any post from someone who says there's a good chap to ANYONE on this forum.

 

Good logic there bro. Well done, and congrats on being such a hostile idiot.

 

lol no, I said that if there were still underutilization issues they are much more isolated than they were before. read my post again and tell me where I said that there wasn't any underutilization, genius. go ahead and keep calling people who disagree with you names. keep in mind that you're constantly in the minority, and it's not because you're surrounded by "fanbois" (I lol every time I see it spelled that way,) it's because you're just a troll with a chip on his shoulder (since we're calling people names, right?) that can't find anything better to do than talk trash and call people names on the internet.

 

You 're my god ! thx I fixed the CCC problem thx to you. But I can't access to the "Switchable Graphics Application Settings". Is it the same for you ?

 

I max all my games out and with BF3 (except for the AA) I really can't complain anymore. There's nothing left for me to complain about. The fact that they will continue to work on this, while I already have a beta that's doing more than just fine right now, is an icing on the cake.

As for those who don't really read or don't like to check on what's going on, just ignore. I read those posts, probably the same ones you're referring to. I just skip right over them. Obviously AMD will work on newer games or games that use newer DX first on a beta and work their way down the line. But some here don't think that far. They just want answers to their questions right after they post it. Besides the beta that's clearly on the filename, even if you just use common sense, it's so obvious that 12.11 is November 2012. That means they released the beta for November in OCTOBER which means it won't be ready until... get ready for this... NOVEMBER. Lol.

 

oh dear, i've upset another person on the internet because i dont worship the graphics card that we both happen to own... btw if you dont consider hulawafu an AMD fanboy then somethings is a miss with your observation skills - this is a guy who originally denied that there ever was an enduro issue for over a month before he even bought a 7970m himself.

 

Then it means it didn't install properly. Maybe try running the AMD installer over it one more time.

 

Yes it's strange.... I don't know, I just ran a 3Dmark 11 and score talks for itself

12.11 -> P6528 3DMarks !! (GRAPHICS SCORE 6370, PHYSICS SCORE 7631, COMBINED SCORE 6340) !!
Clevo drivers -> P5840 3DMarks (GRAPHICS SCORE 5633, PHYSICS SCORE 7585, COMBINED SCORE 5461)

So for the moment I won't touch anything Thank you all

 

I dont have a pre-test to share other then that Myth ran it for me and got 6093.

After messing around forever with 12.11 - 7111 AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P7111 3DMarks

 

Well? Has the 7970m GPU Utilization problem been fixed? 99% usage at all times now?

P.s. I couldn't be bothered to read through all the pages so I'll just ask it here.

 

not yet, fps have definitely improved but there are still definitely under-utilization issues in both BF3 and Crysis 2 that are not present on m17x 7970m.

 

You're not going to get 99% all the time with ANY GPU so stop asking for that. If you meant has AMD released an optimized driver for GCN? The answer is yes.

And arcticjoe still hasn't bought a 680M yet, as that is the solution that will satisfy him IMO.

 

Very nice score. Now go play some games If you got ME3, let me know, PM. Love that game for co-op.

 

Max Payne 3 gets 100% constantly and doesn't crash anymore.

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