AMD Radeon 6970M - ETA from Resellers?

Why would they rev 485M when they can do a G114 core at 100W?

 

just like gtx560m we have seen, a oced 100mhz gtx460m
and the gtx560m memory can chose "192bit 1024mb" just like gtx550ti

 

Looking at these badder but power hungry GPU's - it is anathema to the laptop idea of being able to lug a computer around with good battery life- we get suckered in into upgrading to the baddest and best at a premium - so we can play crysis 2 at high at Starbucks? Ignore the wife, kids, family and GF while you game on at home while you hide in the bathroom or closet? Know I will get flamed for this sacriledge -but consider this viewpoint. More power to you if you got the dough to burn but let us start demanding power efficient & smarter GPUs.

 

You can get smarter and more power efficient GPUs - you just won't be able to game as well. The best GPUs for gamers will always be power-hungry because more power lets you push the graphics more.

For me it's more of a space thing. My daughter pretty much took over my desktop so my laptop is really my home machine. And if I go to the cottage or away on business, the bonus is I can haul my gaming machine along with me.

If I wanted a machine for light productivity/gaming on the train or at a cafe I'd likely just get a tablet or netbook.

 

"The laptop idea" applies to laptops, and not ever machine is designed as such. High-end gaming notebooks aren't designed around portability, so I'm not sure why you imply that they are. They perform optimally when tethered to a socket, and the battery is only there to last until a short trip between power sources. Lasting 2-3 hours is more impressive than you give credit.

And are these GPUs not power efficient? The 6970M is a 6850, but consumes a full 33% less power (~127W vs ~85W). Which one is less power efficient?

You don't deserve to be flamed, but I will say that your viewpoint is built upon a very weak foundation.

 

I think the power consumption on this laptop is already amazing... Getting more than 3 hours on something like this is incredible...

 

Are there any UK/Europe resellers?

 

Guys, here is the review of Eurocom Racer with HD6970M, very nice review...
Goldmax Racer ? Sandy Bridge a HD 6970 v 15,6" balení

I live in Slovakia and review says Goldmax Racer - Goldmax is European Eurocom reseller selling at Goldmax Laptops - Konfigurovatelné mobilní pracovní stanice a výkonné herní notebooky Eurocom Desktop Replacement, they claim to have HD6990M in the future as well.

 

I've been happy with my Racer so far. The only real issues I have with it are the rubbery material over the touchpad mouse (which seems to be standard on all 8150 and P150s) and the loud fan noise while gaming. The fan noise isn't a major issue since I wear a headset, but it really is much louder than my old gaming laptop (an MSI GT725).

 

Actually that sounds like a good idea!!

I use mine to slack off in the library at law school when I get tired of studying Don't tell my wife that! I think its perfectly fine battery life since it lasts through a lecture. As for the bathroom, not enough space to use a mouse and touchpad gaming sucks, I've done a bit of Civ 5 though... Also can lug it over to my boss's place for a lan party and have my laptop beast his gaming rig (its like 2-3 years old)...

 

From Logical Blue One:

source

 

Hi guys, first post ever on this forum even though I have been visiting this forum for a couple of years.

As a small swedish reseller I must say that you may learn a ton of stuff, even as a reseller. I find that in many cases there are interesting differences between the european and american Clevo community.

I have always been puzzled why there are no european resellers on this site apart from Kobalt. Then again, this is an american forum.

To the point. Even though we do have a representative at Sager we mostly use other sources in europe. This means we get info from both continents (+ Asia). I don't know if the american resellers are under NDA or if Sager does not inform them but at times we know things long before they do. The other way around is also quite common and that is one of the reasons I am hanging around here.

Anyway, among the european resellers there are not many who actually directly import from Clevo. One who actually does is Multicom, which is mentioned earlier in this thread. We keep a dialog with them but unfortunately their ETA for 6970M has not been correct as it was said to be 20th March. (Perhaps they actually shipped a few cards - non EE - but that is beyond my knowledge)

This time however I am confident that the first european 6970ms will ship within 1-2 days and that is not a preliminary date but the actual shipping date. We ourselves should get a small stock within a week. That is good news as Sager can't be far behind.

The price premium should be about a 100 euros including VAT compared to GTX 460M so there's no question which one to take.

Edit: I am of course talking about p150/p170 with 6970m.

/Ton

 

welcome to the forum! that's good news indeed.

hope you'll become a regular poster here! we could always use info/support from our brethren overseas

 

Hello, and welcome to the forum. Please, stay a while. There are a lot of Euros here, who need more options for reliable sellers.

You need to get in touch with Charles P. Jefferies, so you can have your name given special designation, as a reseller.

I know for a fact, that the American sellers are under an NDA, even with the 6970M being imminent.

 

Thanks guys. I will surely keep in touch with this forum and also get the special signature.

We will of course help the few europeans that are here but usually they can get the same kind of support from their local reseller. As for our business we focus solely on Sweden. Part of this is due to the fact that Sweden has 25% VAT making it hard to be competitive in Europe - especially when you are small like us.

 

The 6970M will be available for order on the 8150 / P150HM and 8170 / P170HM tomorrow.

 

Here you go...

 

For those interested the 6970 will be available on the 8150/8170 this week

 

official price for upgrading from the 460?

 

Logical Blue One has it $200 cheaper than the GTX 485M, but that is in AUS currency.

 

Pricing will be out tomorrow.

 

woooo can't wait!

 

So, is this the availability for ALL 6970m or just for that particular model? I ordered a 7200 with dual 6970m and am still waiting on it. I sure would like it next week as I have a trip coming up...

 

Only referring to those machines which don't have it yet.

 

cool beans..

when you going to update your lotus pics? been waiting for forever to see that super fancy 3D view (guess it doesn't matter much now since i'll have my laptop in a few days).. i know i was told months ago your graphics guy/team was working on somethin else (a movie? i dont remember).. but sheesh at least you image gallery is correct

 

The eta got moved to April 10th.
Still waiting. xD

And welcome to the forum.

 

"6970m's go on sale tomorrow, but they've been supported by the BIOS's since 1/31/11 by the 8130/8150/8170"

-secret source

 

I wonder, is it possible to upgrade old graphics (eg. GTX460M) to HD6970m using the same heatsink design?

 

Why can't the 6970 also be made available on the 8130? A lot of people don't like the rubber finish on the 8150.

 

In the 8150/8170 it is a common design (at least it better be).

The 8130 doesn't support the power required to run it.

 

Below is the actual AMD Radeon 6970M Card being shipped in the various models...



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When is it going live, for purchase?

 

We are supposed to have the pricing before this day ends. That is the latest I have.

 

The pricing will be up in about 10-20 minutes, so check out your favorite reseller sites!

 

according to eurocom, the heatsinks are different

 

The 6970M has its own unique heatsink, yes.

 

on malibal's site, the 6970 is +245 from the 460 and -$250 from the 485

edit: and Malibal is definitely the first reseller with it up fyi

 

Hello notebookreviews.com forum members,

I am head of Goldmax Laptops company, Eurocom technology reseller for Europe and we are located in Czech Republic. Our company had recieved multiple emails from various countries whether or not we sell all over the Europe and if Sandy Bridge laptops paired with HD6970M are available for the sale.

One email was probably from this forum member and I would like to introduce who Goldmax Laptops really is and what we sell. Goldmax Laptops is distributor (reseller) of Canadian high performance laptop manufacturer Eurocom technology. We can offer to everything what Eurocom sells and ship it anywhere in Europe (or even out of Europe). Feel free to ask anything you want to know and I will do my best to help you out. We do pricematching and can offer discount to anyone who ask for it. We have local service center in Europe as well.

I noticed some resellers here has grey nickname, can help me to get reseller status please? I would like not to violate local rulez. Sorry if its posted in wrong section.

 

mistake sorry

 

Hopefully the upgrade kit won't be that expensive....

 

$300 less than the 485M upgrade @ xoticpc.com

Not too shabby.

 

This might be a problem, because I already place an order P150HM (NP8150) from RJTech and wished to upgrade to HD6970m

 

What happened here? Sager is charging some approx 50% more for the 6970M than their european counterparts.

Also it is nice to see more european resellers on this site. Seems like Eurocom is going for an aggressive expansion in europe. I know at least 2 resellers who just recentlly started using Eurocom as main supplier.

 

what?? what price point are you guys at?

 

Approx. 100-120 Euros including VAT is standard in Europe (read Germany).

That should translate to approx 130 USD. (VAT subtracted).

I don't wanna start an argument so let's just drop this. Sager is a great distributor and almost always cheaper than european distributors when it comes to ordering whole systems. However, most of the european resellers build their computer themselves, like Malibal, and order barebones only.

 

no kidding? you guys ship internationally?

 

Not us, but most european resellers do. Personally I wouldn't dream of ordering overseas as a consumer due to warranty issues.

 

i'd just be interested in the card.. already got the laptop coming to me. although idk how much it would cost me in shipping and fees for that

 

Is the heat sink on the 6970m the same as the 5870m?

 

i believe it depends on notebook model. hmm...