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    ATI HD 6990m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by terminus123, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. KC2PLL

    KC2PLL Notebook Consultant

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    Idle is around 45C and I'm going to start some Napoleon: Total War now, so I'll have some load temps in an hour or so
     
    KC2PLL, Aug 15, 2011
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    Alright thanks! 45C seems a little hot for the idle temperature but the load temperatures are what really matter the most. :D
     
    swimmer1918, Aug 15, 2011
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    what 3Dmark vantage u get???thx.
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 15, 2011
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  4. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    ^^^Many are getting the 6990M this week in their machines. Hopefull many will post their 3D Mark 11 and Vantages scores... :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Aug 15, 2011
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  5. KC2PLL

    KC2PLL Notebook Consultant

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    See page 62 or 63
     
    KC2PLL, Aug 15, 2011
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  6. johnnyman27

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    i dont see any vantage score......
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 15, 2011
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  7. KC2PLL

    KC2PLL Notebook Consultant

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    As on page 61
     
    KC2PLL, Aug 15, 2011
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  8. KC2PLL

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    Also, I'm doing some bitcoin mining, seems to be hitting a high temp of 88C
     
    KC2PLL, Aug 15, 2011
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  9. swimmer1918

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    Do you have the IC7 paste and do you happen too know your room temperature? Thanks again for the info!
     
    swimmer1918, Aug 15, 2011
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  10. KC2PLL

    KC2PLL Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, I have IC7 on it. Room temp is about 24C
     
    KC2PLL, Aug 15, 2011
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  11. swimmer1918

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    Alright cool, If I get under 85C while playing games on mine when I get it I'll be pretty happy.
     
    swimmer1918, Aug 15, 2011
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  12. jazar

    jazar Notebook Enthusiast

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    Has there been any benchmarking with this card for the Witcher 2?
     
    jazar, Aug 15, 2011
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  13. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    Such a hard time waiting!
     
    Xerloq, Aug 15, 2011
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  14. johnnyman27

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    how much better is 6990m from 6970m???
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 16, 2011
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  15. Kevin

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    About 15%.
     
    Kevin, Aug 16, 2011
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    and how u translate it in fps??? :D
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 16, 2011
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  17. Rigodon666

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    old FPS * 1.15 ?
     
    Rigodon666, Aug 16, 2011
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  18. Bytales

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    What software can i use to see the temps on my gpus and cpu ?
    Sorry for oftopic.

    Now for on topic.
    Do i need a bios upgrade for these 6990 CF to work on my x7200 ?
     
    Bytales, Aug 16, 2011
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    johnnyman27, Aug 16, 2011
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  20. Kevin

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    1. 6970M = 26fps, 6990M = 30fps

    2. 6970M = 30fps, 6990M = 34.5fps

    3. 6970M = 45fps, 6990M = 51.75fps

    4. 6970M = 52fps, 6990M = 60fps
     
    Kevin, Aug 16, 2011
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  21. loipon123

    loipon123 Newbie

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    First post here, after reading for some time.

    Firstly, i want to to thank everybody for helping me choose my next laptop which is going to be the 15.6 sager with 6990 (it arrives next week :D )

    I'm a bit worried about the heatshink though...
    I made the order from Xotic, what happens if the heatshink isn't the proper one?
     
    loipon123, Aug 16, 2011
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  22. Justin@XoticPC

    Justin@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Since I can only speak about Sager Branded machines you can be assured you will have the correct heatsink. :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 16, 2011
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  23. prastis

    prastis Notebook Consultant

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    is the problem with temperature for all 6990m cards or its a specific brand that has the temperature issues?
     
    prastis, Aug 16, 2011
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  24. Condottiere

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    Justin is being a bit disingenuous here, or simply doesn't have the right information.

    Based on info provided from Pkhetan and speaking to a Mythlogic rep, this is how I understand it: the current 6990Ms have two versions of weaker heatsinks installed on them (-202 and -203?). Yes, these were technically the 'right' heatsinks for the 6990M, but they are not the current heatsink (we could speculate that an upgrade was pushed through because of high temps, but that would be speculation). Current production of the 6990M includes the new (-204) heatsink, but these updated cards have not trickled into the market yet. If you buy a 6990M currently, you are going to get either the old sucky heatsink or the slightly improved version. Mythlogic guarantees that all of their orders from this point on will have the improved heatsink, but not the -204, as they haven't gone out yet.

    So if you want the -204 heatsink, you have no choice but to wait. Period. Personally, my laptop will be stashed away under my plasma TV on a cooling pad when I game, and so I'm not horribly worried about temps around 90c. YMMV.
     
    Condottiere, Aug 16, 2011
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  25. XXVII

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    What temperature issues? From most of the things that I've seen and read, in large part most people have temps within tolerance and within spec. I haven't seen freakish outliers, unless someone is doing heavy overclocking.
     
    XXVII, Aug 16, 2011
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  26. johnnyman27

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    the difference is very small.6970m still a very powerfull card!!!
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 16, 2011
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  27. Justin@XoticPC

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    Disingenuous?

    I think myself and some other Sager Dealers are the only ones being forthcoming with posting pics of the 6990's per requests also providing detailed info on the heatsinks along with model #'s and the supported GPU models.

    From Sager Engineering:

     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 16, 2011
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  28. seanowns

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    Seems like a nice card
     
    seanowns, Aug 16, 2011
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  29. ARGH

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    I dont think there is a magic heatsink out there that will drop temps by 10c+ like everyone is expecting to. The 90c operating temp of the gpu has more to do with the laptops overal design. If anything, the fan's performance is more important than the cooler.

    Is the current heatsink offered by clevo all copper? If so then its better than the m18x gpu heatsink since it is pretty much all aluminum and 6990 temps of that laptop are in the mid 70's range.
     
    ARGH, Aug 16, 2011
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  30. lazard

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    I understand that both -203 -204 are both approved by Clevo, but its still a bit disappointing knowing that we will be receiving the -203 instead of the -204. The -204 will most likely do a better job, otherwise why would Clevo even bother redesigning it.
     
    lazard, Aug 16, 2011
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  31. Blacky

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    Maybe it's cheaper for them to make, or lighter or who knows. Doesn't necessarily mean it has better thermals.
     
    Blacky, Aug 16, 2011
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  32. dabooosh

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    If Clevo/Sager saw a need to redesign the heatsink they should, as a gesture of goodwill, extend the warranty on customers who have the 6990's with 203 heatsinks.

    They said the 203 is approved by Clevo testing and under normal circumstances that would be good enough for me but there has been no long term testing on these new cards. I'm going to have nightmares of starting the laptop up 1 day after the 1 year parts warranty has expired and having the GPU burst into flames on my lap. :p

    [​IMG]
     
    dabooosh, Aug 16, 2011
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  33. lazard

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    true, never thought about it from that perspective.
     
    lazard, Aug 16, 2011
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  34. vitzs1600

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    Any one selling the 6990m by itself for the p150hm?
     
    vitzs1600, Aug 16, 2011
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  35. Patrck_744

    Patrck_744 Burgers!

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    Patrck_744, Aug 16, 2011
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  36. Xerloq

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    Not necessarily. It could be a simple cost savings measure for them. That does not mean better thermals per se.
     
    Xerloq, Aug 16, 2011
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  37. aslater55

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    This is very likely the case. The difference between the heatsinks is not going to drastically change the thermals. At most maybe -1*c.

    If possible, would be great if more people posted their full load temp.
     
    aslater55, Aug 17, 2011
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  38. GenTechPC

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    Video of 6990 heatsink and fan from NP8170/P170HM production unit:

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/N5rArJbXwB4?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/N5rArJbXwB4?version=3&amp;hl=en_US&amp;rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width='560' height="349" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object>
     
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    GenTechPC, Aug 17, 2011
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  39. Red Line

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    The 6990M card itself looks nice, but the pad on the memory chips seems a bit thick to me. Wonder if you can use thermal paste on those...
     
    Red Line, Aug 17, 2011
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  40. dabooosh

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    Thanks again Gentech for another very useful video. :)
     
    dabooosh, Aug 17, 2011
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  41. vitzs1600

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    any reselllers in the states selling the 6990m right now?
     
    vitzs1600, Aug 17, 2011
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  42. pkhetan

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    Yes, Clevo ship the built-ready P150HM from their factory with -203 heatsink. And I have absolute trust in Clevo. So this means for sure that the -203 heatsink is absolutely compatible.

    EDIT: forget about what I said above.
    See this
     
    pkhetan, Aug 17, 2011
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  43. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Just a note to remember regarding this card doing benches and such. It is acceptable for the temps to reach in the high 80C or even 90C with a room temp of about 30C. Idle about 50C.

    This is what the factory has reported. :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Aug 17, 2011
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  44. Hedgeson

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    You should read the thread. Someone already answered your question the first time you asked.
     
    Hedgeson, Aug 17, 2011
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  45. vitzs1600

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    not buying it from someone who only takes bank transfer in Chili and take a week to ship after payment recieved, thats just shady. I meant the card itself selling it the states that takes paypal
     
    vitzs1600, Aug 17, 2011
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    Yea we can do that, just PM me for more info.
     
    mythlogic, Aug 17, 2011
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  47. Mirakel

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    Could you give us an indication on the noise that the cooling produces at idle?
     
    Mirakel, Aug 17, 2011
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  48. Ryan

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    I have the 6970m, and the new BIOS update fixed the fan tables and stopped the fan from an endless cycle of whirring and stopping.

    It's all good.
     
    Ryan, Aug 17, 2011
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  49. johnnyman27

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    which bios?maybe u mean EC firmware??
     
    johnnyman27, Aug 17, 2011
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  50. Ryan

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    It was actually a bit while,

    I updated both the BIOS and the EC when the BIOS update came out with (fixed fan tables).
     
    Ryan, Aug 17, 2011
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