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    ATI HD 6990m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by terminus123, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. JerryMGHD

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    ^ The 8130 should be able to support AMD cards too. But if you switch to something like the 6990m, you will have to upgrade the PSU to 180w.
     
    JerryMGHD, Aug 20, 2011
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  2. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok, so I ran 3DMark 2011 basic edition, my score was P3521<s> 3DMarks, low for comparable systems. </s>Never mind, just an ad.
    AMD Radeon HD 6970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,CLEVO P150HMx score: P3521 3DMarks
    <s>
    Ouch.

    It said Graphics driver is not approved.
    Also, 3DMark reports the card as a 6970M with 6990M drivers. I ordered a 6990M. Device manager reports the card as a 6990M, so there's a bit of confusion there.

    Tips on improvement? *Should I be worried about the 6970M listing?

    *nevermind - I verified on CCC.

    Anyone know the code for strikethrough?</s>
     
    Xerloq, Aug 20, 2011
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  3. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    They really need to remove the advertisement on that page for PC Health Check. It's confused so many people.

    Xerloq: Your score is not low for your hardware. See average benchmarks on the link below (You can scroll down to see the score in 3D Mark 11).

    I wouldn't worry about it showing it as a 6970 in 3DMark either, they're slow to update to new cards. Considering your benchmarks, you appear to have the right one :)

    AMD Radeon HD 6990M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Aug 20, 2011
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  4. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, now I feel like a dummy, falling for the ad.

    Thanks for the confidence boost. :)
     
    Xerloq, Aug 20, 2011
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    lastshady, Aug 21, 2011
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  6. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    If your model came with the 555m like in that link, then there's no way for it to work. The 555m is soldered on to the motherboard while the 6990 and most other high end cards are MXM based which is a physical slot. I couldn't tell what the power requirements on your machine were, but you'd need at least 180w from the power brick. It looks like you're out of luck from what I can tell.
     
    Anthony@MALIBAL, Aug 21, 2011
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  7. lastshady

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    woow i have good luck
    i was about to buy it from that link cause i heard it from other sites it has mxm 3b
    then you came ;-)

    so which notebook you would say is best for a amd 7xxx upgrade next year?

    and thx a lot
     
    lastshady, Aug 21, 2011
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  8. lastshady

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    lastshady, Aug 21, 2011
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  9. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    Anyone else have benches from the 6990? Also, what program can I get for temps?
     
    Xerloq, Aug 21, 2011
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  10. c0nfucius

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    It is < s >Text here will have strikethrough.< /s > But this text here is okay.

    ...except remove the spaces. I tried using code wrappers to bypass but the strikethrough still appeared in the code wrapper. :confused:
     
    c0nfucius, Aug 21, 2011
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  11. Xerloq

    Xerloq Notebook Evangelist

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    Tried that, but it didn't appear. Maybe it's because I'm on an iPad ATM.

    Weird, worked the second time.
     
    Xerloq, Aug 21, 2011
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  12. Tirenz

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    Here is a test from notebookcheck.de (german), I already put the link in google translator to english:
    Google Übersetzer
     
    Tirenz, Aug 22, 2011
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  13. c0nfucius

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    Good catch, Tirenz! Will read on and see if my decision to go AMD paid off... :)

    EDIT: It paid off. With current drivers, the GTX 580M is ~8% better on average. In most games where the GTX580M beats the 6990M, either the 6990M was already hitting 60+FPS, or both GPUs were hitting under 30FPS. Also worthy to note, it might've been lost in translation, but the reviewer did not specify which drivers each system was using.
     
    c0nfucius, Aug 22, 2011
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  14. oiram21

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    my temps 6990m after 3Dvantage basic

    P170HM
    Roomtemp 26C
    driver from clevo
    paste standard clevo
    fan auto
    heatsink 204


    IDLE: 45C
    MAX: 79C

    Benches:


    3dVantage: 14526
    graphics score: 13184
    cpu score: 20915


    3DMark11: 3595
    Graphics: 3281
    Physics Score: 7531
     
    oiram21, Aug 22, 2011
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  15. Religion

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    if you're gonna list the cpu score you gotta tell us which cpu it is :confused: :confused:
     
    Religion, Aug 22, 2011
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  16. oiram21

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    oiram21, Aug 22, 2011
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  17. Mirabis

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    Are those scores @ stock ? Seems like it though.
     
    Mirabis, Aug 22, 2011
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  18. Xerloq

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    Looks like it... Stock scores that is.
     
    Xerloq, Aug 22, 2011
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  19. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Thank you! Very nice... :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Aug 22, 2011
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  20. lazard

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    nice temps with the 204 heatsink
     
    lazard, Aug 22, 2011
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  21. terminus123

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    I want the 204 heatsink!!!!
     
    terminus123, Aug 22, 2011
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  22. Drew3170

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    max 79 is very nice. some ppl are gettin in the 90s
     
    Drew3170, Aug 22, 2011
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  23. calxn

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    Wow, so much for the 6990 being faster than any other mobile GPU. I'll let the drivers shake out first to see how both the 6990 and 580 compares. BF3 doesn't come out till end of Oct so I have some time to wait it out.
     
    calxn, Aug 22, 2011
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  24. c0nfucius

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    Whoever said the 6990M was going to be faster than any other mobile GPU must've only referred to AMD's slide presentation, which everyone should take with a grain of salt. :)

    Still, being only ~8% slower than the GTX580M whilst being hundreds of dollars cheaper to go with, I like my decision to go AMD.

    EDIT: I would also like to add that both nVIDIA and AMD have only released one or two drivers that support these new GPUs. I wouldn't be too surprised to see these figures change (for better or worse) once drivers have been optimized.
     
    c0nfucius, Aug 22, 2011
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  25. Drew3170

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    Agree and they are neck and neck right now
     
    Drew3170, Aug 22, 2011
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  26. swimmer1918

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    I can't wait to get my 6990M, hopefully it will ship soon :( In the Alienware forum the 6990M was only like 2-3% behind the 580M at the most.
     
    swimmer1918, Aug 22, 2011
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  27. seanowns

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    By the way, I just put my 6990m in my 8130.

    After six minutes of furmark, hit max temp of 92c. IC7 diamond + raised laptop cooler.

    Pretty comfortable with those kind of numbers being I doubt I hit any more intensive gaming.
     
    seanowns, Aug 22, 2011
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    oiram21, Aug 22, 2011
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  29. Red Line

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    Nice results, congrats) BTW, next time you want to share 3dmark score with us, don't make up to 3 screenshots. Instead submit your results and share the web link with us. A lot easier ;)
     
    Red Line, Aug 23, 2011
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  30. dabooosh

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    I seem to have lost the thread discussing which drivers to use. Can someone confirm? I seem to recall folks saying to stay away from the ATI 11.8 and instead use the Clevo drivers.
     
    dabooosh, Aug 23, 2011
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  31. oiram21

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    Affirmative!

    and also I have lost the thread 6990m too hot
     
    oiram21, Aug 23, 2011
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  32. Xerloq

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    Is the difference that much from 203 to 204? That's an 11 degree difference!
     
    Xerloq, Aug 23, 2011
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  33. seanowns

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    I highly doubt the difference is that much. Also, he mentioned his numbers in a the 17inch model, but he lists an 8150. That would be a big difference. However, I am not sure if he used IC7. If he has anything other then IC7, those numbers are pretty darn impressive.

    My 6990m is in a 8130. I have the 203 heatsink. I used IC7. I have a laptop cooler.

    Running 3d Vantage I peaked around 82c.

    Furmark was 92c, but furmark is in another league of stress.

    In any case, I doubt I will hit 92c playing games, so I am not worried at all.
     
    seanowns, Aug 23, 2011
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  34. lazard

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    you also have to take into consideration that he has the P170HM which probably provides more airflow than the P150HM.
     
    lazard, Aug 23, 2011
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  35. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    These 6990M's have been shipping for about 2 weeks now in the Sager models. Please keep posting your temps and benches. Thanks! :)
    _
     
    Larry@LPC-Digital, Aug 23, 2011
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  36. dabooosh

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    My P170HM has the 203 heatsink. :(

    Been setting up the laptop all day, loading Win7, apps, games, etc.

    Was just sitting here browsing the web while waiting on downloads and CPUID reported the 6990 was at 82degrees! Hit FN+1 and let it run for 10 seconds and the temp dropped back down to 59degrees.

    Is there a better app than CPUID? It seems a bit flaky.

    New to the benchmarking scene. What should I benchmark with?
     
    dabooosh, Aug 23, 2011
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  37. lazard

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    Futuremark - world's most popular benchmarks and PC performance tests
    www.3dmark.com
     
    lazard, Aug 23, 2011
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  38. oiram21

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    You can use GPU-Z and HW-Monitor (both free). That´s what I use.
     
    oiram21, Aug 23, 2011
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  39. Xerloq

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    I've got the 203. I'll get those and post some temps. I'm on stock paste because I haven't applied my AC5. (offhand, does anyone know the shelf life of the stuff? My tube is a couple of years old.)
     
    Xerloq, Aug 23, 2011
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    So anyone know when, or if ever the 6990 is going to be available in the X7200 for the Sager models? MALIBAL is starting to make Sager look not so awesome lately for me :confused: .
     
    brianvp, Aug 23, 2011
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  41. MALIBAL

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    Hi, we're already shipping the 6990M in the X7200. :)
     
    MALIBAL, Aug 23, 2011
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  42. Justin@XoticPC

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    They should be coming soon. Sager maybe a little late on this release for the X7200, but they are also the only ones shipping the 6990M by the hundreds each day. :) No availability or shipping delays whatsoever at this time.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 23, 2011
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  43. dabooosh

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    Played a bit of Metro 2033 on High settings @ 1920x1080

    [​IMG]

    This seems way too high, no? Room temperature is 24 degrees.
     
    dabooosh, Aug 23, 2011
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  44. lazard

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    very high, surprised it didn't trigger thermal shutdown.
     
    lazard, Aug 23, 2011
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  45. dabooosh

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    I did order the IC7 Diamond too.

    So what do I do at this point? 106 is well above the operating spec, correct?

    Malibal, any thoughts on this?
     
    dabooosh, Aug 23, 2011
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  46. lazard

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    106 is hot enough to start doing some damage to the card.
     
    lazard, Aug 24, 2011
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  47. willj729

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    Hmm, that is disconcerting.

    Maybe you should under-volt the card. I remember seeing somewhere that the card is set at 1.1 V, but 1.0 V is quite stable and can decrease the temperature. I know you shouldn't have to resort to doing this :( , but if it reduces temp. without reducing performance, why not?
     
    willj729, Aug 24, 2011
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  48. JerryMGHD

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    Malibal could you comment on the higher temperatures? I have a P150 coming, and it's likely to hit even higher temperatures.. Would the 204 heatsink perform better? I plan on doing strenuous things, and don't want to overheat.
     
    JerryMGHD, Aug 24, 2011
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  49. Justin@XoticPC

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    That is higher then we have seen with any machine. I would contact your seller ASAP. 106C is very hot.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 24, 2011
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  50. dabooosh

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    I'm upset but as I haven't had the laptop 24 hours at this point, I'm not irrationally angry. I haven't had enough time to bond with it to feel too broken up. :p

    Really at this point it will be up to Malibal as to how they want to proceed: remedy the situation and work to turn this customer from an upset one into a happy one, or just refund my money and relegate the problem to past history.

    This much is true: when things go wrong like this we will really see what resellers are made of.
     
    dabooosh, Aug 24, 2011
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