ATI HD 6990m

Here are the latest temps we're getting on the P170HM:

http://www.malibal.com/images/furmark826.jpg
http://www.malibal.com/images/3dmark11826.jpg

Thermal Compound: ICD7
Heatsink: 203
Room Temp: 24.5C

 

looks much better than the 106C daboosh was getting.

 

I shipped that laptop out yesterday to Malibal. I'm curious to learn what they discover about why it was running so hot.

 

HD 6990M in a Clevo X7200, in the hands of Notebookcheck.net. Review AMD Radeon HD 6990M Graphics Card - Notebookcheck.net Reviews.

Being compared to HD 6970M and GTX 580M all through, so I guess this will be interresting for quite a few.

 

furmark is a power virus. it does nothing for stability because it's only purpose is to draw as much current as possible. it does not stress the instruction chipsets like a normal application or game. it is pretty much a complete waste of time and gives a false sense of results.

if you want to test for worst-case then simply in this summer climate turn off the air conditioning and allow the room to reach 90 degree fahrenheit and run a modern gpu-intensive game.

 

This just in from Sager...

'We have had both AMD 6990M heatsink versions in hand early this week, and we have been conducting multiple tests using very large samples of both the -203 and -204 heatsinks on multiple units. In every test the thermal performance between the two heatsink versions were identical.....
The thermal design of the two heatsinks is identical except the additional two mounting fins. We have been told that the two additional mounting fins are added for compatibility when using GPUs that are of no interest to the performance market'






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Wow, thanks for the information. So the -204 heatsinks that Malibal are getting won't change anything?

 

I've always used OCCTP, it has never let me down until now.

 

Pictures now added to the post above...
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Yes, according to the several thermal tests, the temps and performance is the same between the 203 and 204 versions.
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Ugh, that means I could have had my laptop today.

 

well that's disappointing.

 

does anyone know if clevo's 6990m supports voltage control through software or do I need to modify a bios to lower the voltage on the lowest powerstate(Battery saving time)?

 

pretty sure you have to modify and flash the bios.

 

As stated above the 204 has been tested repeated times @ Sager and there is no Thermal difference between the two heatsinks. However if some of you would prefer the 204 heatsink please let us know and we would be happy to accommodate and fulfill that request.

They can start shipping as early as Monday!

 

Gonna have to wait and see, who knows how they implemented voltage on the new board. Hopefully don't need a hardware volt mod

 

Despite this, people will still claim a difference. I'd like to know why sims folks are claiming such a huge difference, and why some people have really low temps under load.

 

I hope not. I'd like it as low as is stable. I can turn things up if needed.

 

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Hi everyone,

Just FYI, I got a P170HM with the following specs:

Intel 2630QM
AMD 6990M
Stock thermal paste

Seeing as how everyone got ICD paste, I'll share GPU temperature data from a laptop with the stock paste.

I ran burn-in using Furmark. On auto fan, the temperature would climb up to 98 deg C, and 100% fan would kick in lowering the temp down to 93-94 C. Fan speed would then decrease and kick in when the temperature reached 98 C again. This cycle would repeat.

If I hit Fn-1, the temperature would stay around 90-91 C.

Laptop was sitting on a hard flat wooden surface, and room temp was about 25 C.

 

that's pretty toasty

 

Can u try vantage or a game and post those results?

 

98 degrees C is indeed hot. But keep in mind that this is the stock thermal paste, on auto-fan, and it's not constantly at 98 C.

So based on this information, do you guys think this is abnormal?

I'm posting this information as a reference. I don't intend on keeping the stock thermal paste. I'll take it off and put on arctic silver 5 (I think I've had that tube for ~7 years, but the inside still seem moist, so it's okay I guess?)

Once that is done, I'm hoping for a ~5 degree decrease? What do you guys think?

 

Yes, even with stock paste and auto fan, it is too hot. Except you were located in a room with ambient about 35C.
Maybe it is bad pasted and just repasting helps. Try it out.

 

No he said room temperature was 25C not 35C

 

Yes please try Vantage or like type benchmarks as a test to the temps. Furmark is not realistic or real life as it pushes beyond what any gaming really does.
The factory at Sager does not use Furmark for this reason.
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Try propping up the rear of the laptop. Like 1-2 inches. Basically these laptops are starved for air even when on a flat surface. Elevating helps this problem greatly. I saw temps drop 5+ degrees C doing this. A notebook cooler would help even more. With my SF-19 temps are around 8+ C cooler.

 

Okay some more information:

I have the 203 heatsink (but based on sager's 204 vs 203 tests, we probably shouldn't think any less of the 203). Room temp was about ~25 C. Fan was on auto fan setting.

3Dmarkvantage:
Max GPU temp according to CPUid: 83 C
3dmark score: 14010
graphic score: 13105
cpu score: 17672

3Dmark2011 (I downloaded the basic version and it only allows the 720p test which isn't very stressful)
max gpu temp: 80 C

I know there are ways to decrease temperature such as increasing the clearance between laptop and surface, get a laptop cooler, apply ICD or AS5, etc. But right now I'm trying to provide a baseline / reference test by setting the laptop on a flat surface. My goal isn't to lower temperature right now, but to provide data others can compare with.

So what do you guys think? Should I not worry about the 98 C under furmark anymore?

 

I wouldn't worry because your temp is pretty good already with stock paste and also considering your not elevating or using a cooler. Furmark isn't as realistic as vantage so u shouldn't ever reach those temps while gaming.

 

Exactly, when I get my laptop I'm not even planning on running Furmark just Vantage.

 

Don´t worry, your temps are good. I had nearly the same roomtemps (26) and same conditions, except the 204. Before repasting I had 79C after vantage and 3D11 (basic).

 

Hmm, I see. Thanks for the input everyone.

I ran vantage again, but this time didn't use CPU ID, I used GPU-Z. GPU-Z gives 4 temperatures associated with the GPU:

GPU Temperature (max): 82 C
GPU Temp #1 (max): 82.5 C
GPU Temp #2 (max): 86.0 C
GPU Temp #3 (max): 90.0 C

What is GPU Temp #3 and should I be worried it's going to 90 C?

 

I think they represent core, ram and vrm temps. My 6970m shows the same differences between those 3, more or less.

 

I shortened the Quote a lil bit.

Hello, sorry that I have to bring this topic up again.
I just got my p170hm with 580m GTX from a german reseller, and changed my stock paste to ICD 7.
I noticed that I have a 203 Heatsink with the 580m GTX.
Might that be a problem in Temperatures or what is the difference to the 302, 303 series?

Hope somebody can help me.

 

also slightly confused on the heatsink. I just contacted Malibal and requested a 204 heatsink--assuming the GTX 580m used the same heatsink as the 6990m in the P150HM.

 

Not really as remember the heatsink has more to do with how it sits on the core than anything, the nVIDIA cores and the AMD cores are different shape and have different mounting patterns to make sure the middle of the heatsink is on the right part, hence why there are more part numbers. I know they muddied the waters a bit with all the part numbers.

 

MALIBAL contacted me, they said the P150HM with GTX 580m uses 503 and 302/303 for core and VRAM. As to why somebody has one labeled 203--I haven't a clue.

 

Well here is a pic, of my heatsink for the 580m GTX.
I took it apart and repasted my GPU with ICD 7
It seemed to cover the whole core, but I'm really confused if it is the right heatsink or not.

Damn... I just recognized something.
The one that is directly connected to the GPU Core says 203 on it.
But the one covering the rest of the GPU and is connected with the fan says 503 on it

 

Hello! I just wanted to share my experience with ICD7. I've never repasted GPU before, I just looked at youtube videos and read this thread. Before repasting i was at 80-81C playing SC2 with on ultra and highest resolution. After repasting it went straight down to 75C not above. It was indeed a very simple operation, 8 screws all in all. The tricky part was getting the old paste off but with the right cleaning fluid I did manage to remove it.

So to all of you who never repasted GPU's before and is worried about heat. Repaste the stock paste! it's indeed worth it

Edit: It was on Clevo P150Hm laptop

 

The other heatsink (vram) has always a different number. Mine is called -600. That´s because of the different locations of the vram´s from the particular GPU.
But all in all with the 203-204-302-303 it is getting confused, because of the various configuration.

here is a pic of mine 6990 with 204

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2328/heatsinkbuiltin.jpg

 

the cover heatsink for GTX 580m is indeed a 503. But the heatsink directly touching the core---I haven't got a clue anymore.

 

iv just received my Satori P170HM with the works! finally! thank you malibal for coming through and for the unbeatable price and customer service..havent put the laptop through its paces yet..(especially the 6990m)..so i cant really say its all fine...but so far, freakin good!!!!

 

Alright, now give us the info on your unit,(heatsink, temps, benchies, game, fps, ect) I believe you have one of the first Malibal P170HM's with 6990m after the high temp issues. So jealous, mine is coming in the next few days I hope.

 

Ismail specially requested that we ship his notebook with the 203 heatsink, if I remember correctly - because he is leaving the country and can't wait any longer.

 

Just got my P150HM and I noticed that my heatsink rev numbers are 403 and 203. I thought the 580M used 504 and 302/303?

 

I believe GTX 580m I think uses 503 for VRAM, and 302 or 303 for the Chip. Some have reported getting 203 for core though---so yea, rather confusing. Could any reseller chime in on this?

 

Just thought I'd post my 3D Mark Vantage scores.

3D Mark 14,562
graphics: 13,763
CPU: 17,632

Seems like both the 580M + 6990M both run faster in Sager/Clevo laptops then the Alienware ones, is this possible?

 

u forgot to turn off physx.

 

How do you know?