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    ATI HD 6990m

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by terminus123, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. llynx

    llynx Notebook Consultant

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    Wow, because I've been pressing FN + F1 -.-

    And you can OC your 6990m with a program like Saphire TRIXX
     
  2. swimmer1918

    swimmer1918 Notebook Consultant

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    How hard is it to download and how exactly do I overclock the card. I know you change like the core speeds but which ones and by how much?
     
  3. llynx

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    Its easy, just download, install, and just increase the clocks then apply. Keep doing this gradually until you're comfortable.

    (The stable limit for my system atm is 845core/990mem -> 850/1000 starts to artifact then crash after a few minutes on most games)
     
  4. swimmer1918

    swimmer1918 Notebook Consultant

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    Do I need to increase the core and the memory by the same amount? Like if I bump up the core +15 do I need to do the memory exactly +15 or does it not matter?
     
  5. llynx

    llynx Notebook Consultant

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    Doesn't really matter on this card.
     
  6. swimmer1918

    swimmer1918 Notebook Consultant

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    Alright cool +1 rep :D
     
  7. Religion

    Religion Notebook Consultant

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    currently own it. Dropped my temps 4-6c. Didn't allow for any extra overclocking but a cold laptop is a happy one.
     
  8. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    would that mean there are better coolers out there :cool: ?
     
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    anveshs Notebook Consultant

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  11. Religion

    Religion Notebook Consultant

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    there are more expensive ones that cool slightly better. I paid $28 for my cooler while the SF19 previously mentioned pushes $80. I wanted simple and efficient and I got it.
     
  12. Hedgeson

    Hedgeson Notebook Guru

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    Searching for this is a pain, so here's my question:
    I can't seem to control my GPU fan speed with AMD Overdrive or MSI Afterburner. Changing the value in one or the other changes both, but there is no noticeable change in the fan sound. They don't seem to report the correct value. It's not that important since the temperature seems to stabilize at 80C playing BFBC2 in a 24C room, but it's bugging me.
    I'm using the Sager driver from their website. I'll try reinstalling them since Afterburner may have screwed something.

    BTW, it seems Fn+F1 does not change fan speed on (some?) latest versions of the P150HM. It disables the trackpad.
    Also, BFBC2 is so much smoother than on my older Dell XPS 630i. I can even record in 1920x1080 using Fraps with no -noticeable- effect on framerate.
    Awesome.
     
  13. Religion

    Religion Notebook Consultant

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    Fn+1 = correct
    Fn+F1 = incorrect

    also those programs just can't control the fans yet. (or ever maybe who knows)
     
  14. Hedgeson

    Hedgeson Notebook Guru

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    ooohhhh... Fn+1 does work. And my fans were far from 100% while playing, judging from the sound level Fn+1 generates. Is there a list for those unannounced hotkeys somewhere?

    Kinda bummed that we can't control the fans via software, but Fn+1 is a good alternative, I guess.
     
  15. swimmer1918

    swimmer1918 Notebook Consultant

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    Your temperatures are more than good, I wouldn't even be worrying about the fan control. :p
     
  16. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I agree. You are well within the good zone on your temps. :)
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  17. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Those hotkeys are all listed in your manual I believe, but if you don't have it, here's a link:

    ftp://sftp.clevo.com.tw/USRMANUAL/P15xHM/EUM.zip

    Hotkeys are listed on page 1-11. The only "secret" hokey is the FN+1 fan speed control as the rest are listed :)
     
  18. c0nfucius

    c0nfucius Notebook Consultant

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    So, here are my current findings with the 6990M in my P150HM (gorgeous machine :D). I used the AMD Catalyst 11.9RC Mobility Mod drivers by asder, and my laptop rests on a glass surface in a room that is 20°C:

    3DMark Vantage Free Edition (default settings): 14720 3DMarks
    Idle: 41°C Peak: 77°C

    3DMark 11 Free Edition (default settings): 3561 3DMarks
    Idle: 44°C Peak: 77°C

    I ran both tests on a lapdesk surface, which resulted in peaks of 83°C, but the room temperature was around 22°C. All in all, I am very impressed by the temperature readings and the performance of this GPU.
     
  19. JerryMGHD

    JerryMGHD Notebook Guru

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    I have an P150 and I got about the same marks as confucius did. But when I try to play games like crysis 1920 x 1080 on hardcore/advanced, I'm capped at 30fps at best. Why and how can I improve my fps? I've seen people with much higher.
     
  20. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    That's exactly in line with what I'd expect for that card based on average FPS/benchmarks:

    AMD Radeon HD 6990M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    The only way people are running higher are if they overclocked, turned down the settings, or are running on a lower resolution.

    Crysis is still quite demanding and the 6990 still only equates to a roughly upper middle range desktop card.
     
  21. seanowns

    seanowns Notebook Geek

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    Where did you get those modded drivers?

    Update: I think i found them googling ATI 11.9 asder :)

     
  22. JerryMGHD

    JerryMGHD Notebook Guru

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    No actually I have read that notebookcheck page. You can see for yourself that they ran ultra at a minimum of 30fps and very high at around 50-100. The 6990m is pretty beast. I fixed the problem and increased my own fps greatly by patching crysis, so it wasn't the video card's problem.
     
  23. Drift King

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    Here are my results with my new NP8170. Stock TC. Idle temp is between 38°C and 41°C. I am using the drivers from Sager's support v8.85. Room temperature is 75°F (23.9°C):

    3DMark03 (default): 63812
    Peak: 74°C

    3DMark Vantage (default): 14424
    Peak: 75°C

    3DMark 11 (default): 3569
    Peak: 75°C

    PCMark7 (default): 4820
    Peak: 74°C

    Laptop is sitting on a regular desk, but the rear is elevated by 1/2". Very happy with the scores and temps. =)
     
  24. derfuerst

    derfuerst Newbie

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    I also got a P150HM with the 6990M and have almost the same benchmark results. I am using the AMD Catalyst 11.8, which gave me slightly better results than the clevo driver.

    3DMark Vantage: P14976
    3DMark 11: P3557

    Both with GPU peak at 77 °C (23 °C room temp).

    I am very happy with this GPU and I think the good price/performance relation is the big advantage here.
     
  25. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Thank you for that! Nice temps indeed! :)
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  26. psarrism

    psarrism Notebook Consultant

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    23oC is not a temp for checking your card's performance. See what happens when room's temp reaches 29-30, that's the real challenge.
     
  27. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Actually 75 degrees Fahrenheit is very normal. It is an average in most rooms I have been in for benching and such... :)
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  28. seanowns

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    I am with Larry. Who in there right mind plays games at 29-30c. That would be awful. I live in Florida, and I can say I have never played a game in the mid 80s. It seems crazy. If my AC broke, I would spend my free time somewhere else....
     
  29. llynx

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    I flashed my bios to 1.15v when in performance mode but when I start a game all readings say the voltage is still at stock 1.1v, does the 6990m not have a voltage controller that allows for voltages above 1.1v?
     
  30. Lint21

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    So this card has been out for a bit now... is it worth the ~$95 upgrade from a 6970M if ordering a new laptop?
     
  31. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Yes the 6990M is worth the upgrade price many on the forums are saying that have had both cards. :)
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  32. æro

    æro Notebook Guru

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    I've been trying to keep my new build at $1500 or less, it's been so hard to get the options and the 6990M... damn you Larry making me go over budget :D
     
  33. Riley89

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    I think Malibal has a 150$ off any config over 1500$ atm that you could check out if you haven't already. And I'm sure if you'd rather go with a different reseller they'd probably price match it. Though I personally think Malibal is a great option :D
     
  34. æro

    æro Notebook Guru

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    Yeah on Malibal my 6990M config is about $1531 cash price. It's a $125 rebate off anything over $1500, all other vendors were $100.

    Basically, the options I've been swapping around were the 95% glossy vs. matte screens and the 6970M vs 6990M cards.

    Low end was in the $1390 range to $1530 to the top end of options.
     
  35. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    You may be very surprised at the price Sager is offering through resellers for your configuration now...since you are an active member on this forum.... ;)

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  36. genocidew

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    hi guys, when i open my unit, i found out it come with the 203 heatsink.

    i specifically told my reseller that i want the 204 heatsink, and he ordered from sager it self confirmed will be 204, but when the unit arrived, it is 203 not the 204 :(

    when he emailed sager asked regarding the wrong heatsink, sager said it was the production line that did not change...

    what do you guys think i should do?
     
  37. Drummerboy2212

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    Not worry about it, the difference between the 203 and 204 is so minimial, its not worth worrying about. As long as your temps are in line you are good. Grab GPU ID and run 3dmarkXX and check your temps. furmark is also good for checking max temp.

    More importantly than the 204 heat sink that may help temps by 1C reduction, make sure that you are using something better then the stock thermal paste, by changing to something like ICD7 you can reduce temps by as much as 10C.
     
  38. genocidew

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    hmmm ok.

    after gaming on SC2 for 30 min on full hd resolution and ultra settings, here are my reports.

    cpu : max 69 degree celcius
    gpu thermal diode : 75 degree celcius
    room temperature : remote says 20 degree but im still sweating and feeling hot -_- i feels like 24-26 degree celcius.
     
  39. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Thanks. Those are some good temps! :)
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  40. MechanizedPug

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    How has the 6990 been performing, is it worth the upgrade from the 560. Also how does it compare to the 580, from what I've seen on pages like notebookcheck etc it shows about the same performance. I have typically used nvidia cards in my desktops(I have nothing against amd/ati). I've seen video reviews of various sager's 17in and 15in but none with the 6990m, though I've seen some gameplay ones. I think I saw an alienware review of one somewhere. Thanks again.
     
  41. æro

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    The 6990 vs 560 upgrade is very substantial. I had very little hesitation for the upgrade but the jump in $$ to the 580 really put me off.
     
  42. seanowns

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    In terms of performance, you will see something like a 60% bump up with a 6990m. I believe that kind of performance upgrade is easily justified by the price. Even though games have not improved much over the last few years, some new games appear to be taking advantage of higher-end hardware.

    It also depends if you are visually snobby. Its not like you can't play the same games on a 560m - you will simply play them at a lower quality. Important to me, inconsequential to others.
     
  43. MadRocker

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    And 560m + 2860qm vs 6990m + 2630qm is the difference as big or less, will the better cpu help compensate for the 560m performance or not that much.

    Just thinking in terms of budget minded buyers and the 560m seems to be able to play most games at decent settings and then waiting for the 7***m cards in Dec2011~Feb2012.
    1440x900 is perfect.

    PS: what is the best balanced config for cpu + 6990m or cpu + 560m in general ?
     
  44. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    The better CPU won't compensate if you're gaming. The GPU is nearly always the bottleneck for laptops (even with the 2630/2670QM). You can always upgrade the CPU, but it won't make up for a weaker GPU. The 6990 + 2630QM is much better for gaming than a 560m + 2820qm.

    Now, this is all moot if you're talking other types of tasks. Virtualization, video/audio encoding, etc all benefit more from the CPU and hardly at all from the GPU.
     
  45. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The i7-2670QM with the the 6990M is a great lower cost gaming combination, IMO :)
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    Sorry if this has been brought up before but I couldn't find any mention of undervolting the 6990M in the last 30 pages of this thread.

    Has undervolting been tried on the 8150/8170? It seems like heat is a major concern and this would help a lot. I know that someone undervolted the 6990M on the Alienware M17x. Would it be a similar process on a Sager/Clevo? Thanks.
     
  47. johnnyman27

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    read this thread pls!!!yes its possible to undervolt at least with 6970m!!

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/576540-6970m-undervolting.html
     
  48. MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs

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    Hi everyone,
    Since the GTX 580M I ordered went out of stock...My only alternative is to switch to HD 6990M, so I have few questions :p

    1º Compared to 6970M does the 6990M have lower temps?
    2º Is (the 6990M) good for OC compared to the GTX 580M? Or at least if i'm able to surpass the GTX 580M OCed when doing OC with the 6990M.

    Thank you,
    Best Regards to All
     
  49. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Went out of stock on the 580M?? Who did you order from. Sager for one has stock and is shipping these daily. :)
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  50. MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs

    MeNtAl_DaRkNeSs Notebook Consultant

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    I ordered from Inforlandia, a Portuguese Store... I would have to wait one full month to have my 580M, so I switched to HD 6990M.
    Was it a bad choice?
     
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