Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

Well... I already kinda knew I'm not getting a laptop this year. Pains me to know all those holidays going to waste. Guess, I'll have to actually go on vacation on vacation. Dayum.

 

I work all year, but I get 3-4 day weekends. Vacation is nearly nonexistent for me.

 

Well, my project enters production on January 5th. So I need a machine with all the software by then. Keyboard is irrelevant since I use an external one anyway. Reason I need a laptop is I move cities a lot, so I need my work with me. If pre-orders are up by december though maybe I could place an order and get it as soon as it's released since I'll be at the top of the queue...

 

who needs vacation with 3-4 day weekends, anyways?

 

I'd go w/ the 30 day return policy option, since they're good w/ that just make sure to keep the plastic covering on and take care of your baby.


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Side note:

I'm getting a few pm's from people attempting to butcher me over this laptop explaining how its not paper thin and why to even regard it. For the record I never stated it WAS a super thin laptop, I stated that it had the best of BOTH worlds from the p651 and p35x. You can argue and debate what "thin" and "thick" are all day long but I honestly dgaf <3

When I see people debating back and forth between the p651 and p35x its usually for the same reasons I had, 1 having 32gb or RAM while the other has 8gb of vRAM however neither have the same. Enter the p751zm...

It's barely over an inch if anything, drink some milk, or get some calcium, if you're expecting super thin laptops to give ground breaking results, then you're thinking way to far ahead in the future. I'll give it another 18 months before we see a real change in super thin laptops, until then science will always prevail.

I for one have NO issue w/ slight thickness to improve thermals, as I'm not planning on having this thing feet away from me to avoid the heat, I'll have it on my bed, my car seat, my desk, tight spots. Any thinner and we're gonna start having people complain cuz their jeans bent their laptops lol..

So please....calm the heck down LOL

 

For some reason.. my post got butchered.

 

thatta girl... haters gonna hate!

besides, for those kinda components it IS paperthin! show me any other laptop with a total of 200W+ components at stock that only sports 36mm at its thickest! anyone...?

didnt think so

 

P751ZM is like an unneutered P150EM just for not having optimus (maximum GPU performance). The reason I chose this over P651SG is because they both have the same battery life. Might as well go for stronger solution and wait another year for Ultra Portable Gaming PC.

 

I think that's much better honestly. It is a pain trying to train your backup. More stressful to take a long vacation.

P651SG has just two hours battery? :O

 

Under the circumstances I am using them. Yes. P651SG will likely only last 2.5 hours for me at most, 1 hour under intensive work. Same will go for the P751ZM, only I lose about 20 minutes at most (4cell vs 8cell)

 

I can't wait until January too. That sucks. I'll have to go with the P651 then

 

BOTH of these all the way!!!! I'm gonna <3 this family

I can't recall 100% but I believe that Wingnuts study of it was about 73 minutes w/ gaming, almost 2 hours w/ movies, and 3.5 hours w/ light browsing, however this was all with the brightness dimmed and on power profiles (minus gaming) the full reviews up though, still no idea why they went w/ such a low battery. Maybe one one of the engineers was afraid of the number 6. Though seeing as this ones getting an 8 cell, I'm really curious why the p651 didn't.

Either one is a great choice, it honestly comes down to usage scenarios between the 2 at the decision point!

Either fly like starfox (p651)

Or Fly like Starfox (All range mode) (p751zm)

 

I think the quote button broke posting....

 

Hmm working fine for me, verify your page is loading fully. could be server side issues w/ the forum due to high traffic sometimes causes it not to return all the info, also I noticed on Tapatalk long posts get cut off so if theres a quote it kills it for that post.

 

Was tapatalk. At least I know the post went through, even if it doesn't show the message at first...

As for the 8cell in P751ZM... if only it didn't eat the battery power that fast, it would be quite the amazing laptop package.

 

Please do share, I'm very curious what these fine upstanding gents had to say.

As for why to even regard it, I have 4 words for them: desktop CPU in laptop. Find me another laptop besides the P570WM line that offers this and then we can talk.

 

If people have questions regarding the ramifications of the machine, why it has a niche and the potential benefits they are more than welcome to send their questions my way. Harassing people over their choices and interests before any reviews are even out or the state of the machine itself is fully detailed then they need to calm down.

 

I was researching undervolting and underclocking to increase battery life (only for browsing and streaming, not gaming). I believe I can set different underclocking/undervolting profiles for on-battery and plugged. Am I on the right track?

 

Power options are for on battery/plugged settings. Technically you can downclock by further decreasing the maximum processor power for on battery and while plugged safely.

Undervolting is a setting that affects you across the board, regardless of power settings.

 

Hey Meaker, we have all seen the (supposed) cooling system for the P750ZM, does it look like enough to you? What kind of temps should we expect?

 

Yea, I think with underclocking, significant battery life could be achieved. At least for my purposes (non-gaming)

 

one could also restrict the tdp envelope of the cpu, switch off its turbo boost, downclock its base clock to like 2ghz, force 2D clocks on the gpu via nvidia inspector, even downclock and downvolt it and then one might even squeeze 3 hours out of it

as for the cooling system, i imagine it like this: since the cpu will pretty much get an identical heatsink to the gpu and the gpu is 100W and its already known that 100W cpus can be sufficiently cooled in 15" clevos im actually pretty optimistic concerning temps add to that some mods like propping up the back of the laptop, changing to a high end TIM, delidding the cpu and ure good to go for a nice juicy oc

 

This is the impression I'm getting from you for when you get your laptop jay...lol

 

I might delid the CPU, but it depend on how much I can cool without any serious modifications.

 

I might delid just so I know the laptop will never get loud.

 

For a serious 24/7 overclock it's going to help a lot. You can say this without even knowing the cooling on the machine.

 

Agree. I did it last year to 3770k, only problem is it's bit time consuming. It's unfortunate this system is not available till Jan 2014.

I ordered 980M from RJtech for my GF's P170, so I'll mess with it till then....

 

Will the heatsink contact the CPU though?

 

Nop. I removed the Intel crap and repasted it with ICdiamond, then reseated the IHS.

 

LOL, dont even start me off with liquid nitrogen, im actually responsible for the LN2 reserves at my lab!

yes, thats also my plan. ill check and see first how the machine will fare with the 4790K and then decide if i go ahead with delidding...

plan would be to keep the IHS on the CPU but just exchange the TIM to something highend like CL liquid pro/ultra. that and the decreased offset between the IHS and the DIE due to the then missing adhesive/glue would result in significantly decreased temps (according to user experiences online anywhere between 10-20C)

 

Here is a full nude of mine:



I wonder how exactly the 15 inch is being laid out, maybe more like the P150 with maybe the CPU heatsink wrapping round the fan and it's a touch larger.

 

yes indeed, the leaked picture of the heatsink suggests that the ZM is similar in layout to the P150/P170 with a two fan solution, only that CPU & GPU are connected to each other via heatpipes.

bad news on that front: a korean guy over at TI posted the following:

"P770zm or p771zm is a single GPU laptop with desktop CPU and from what I heard from Korean clevo resellers, they are having a hard time to cool 4790k (which is the best CPU for it at the moment) at stock clock. I dont think you, the master of laptop, would like it." (he was referring to Mr. Fox who had just finished a very amusing rant about soldered CPUs )

so yeah, looks like delidding will become a must now, especially when trying to oc this beast!

 

The 4790K is basically pre overclocked to 4.2ghz with a TDP to keep it there so cooling it in a notebook without some love would be a difficult prospect lol.

 

BTW jaybee I want to upgrade my fathers 150sm screen. Is it 40pin or 30? And do you know any good IPS panels?

 

It's dual channel 40 pin LVDS, someone mentioned finding a panel but I am not sure it worked out.

 

40pin IPS hard to find.

 

Yes, very hard unfortunately.

 

oh ill give it lots of luuuuuuuuuuuv alright :thumbsup:

@bigspin: good thing meaker took care of ur question, unfortunately i havent exchanged a notebook display as of yet

 

Can you link me to the picture of the leaked heatsink picture?

 

Delid? What is that?

I was looking to get this laptop but the conversation in this thread is telling me that I lack the knowledge that will be needed to unlock the true potential of this laptop.

 

Here you go, one heat sink pic coming up.

 

Delidding Step 1 (removal):


Delidding Step 2 (inspection):


Delidding Step 3 (cleaning):


Step 4: application of high-end thermal paste

Step 5: re-attachment of heatspreader

Step 6: overclock the crap out of it

 

Pre built for next gen (hopefully) cooler cpu's.


If the fans are.. Loud enough, it should not have the biggest problems getting the 4790k under 90c imo..

 

I like the last part but the rest looks pretty intimidating especially if you never tried anything like that before.
It's definitely well worth it if temps are lowered as much as you guys say they do.

 

Can we run delidded CPUs with that heatsink?

 

doubtful, since the heatspreader will most probably be used to hold the CPU in place like so:



thus, ud be missing several mm in order for the heatsink to contact the die directly.

but thats not necessary, main point is to exchange the thermal paste between the heatspreader and CPU die to a high-end one like ICD 7, GC extreme or liquid pro/ultra.

@IKAS V: im seriously considering this delidding service on ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/261356831973?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

would surely be worth the investment if u ask me

 

Well hopefully the 17" model doesn't have the heating issues.. I wasn't surprised with the 15" one having it... Get it right Clevo!

 

The IHS is worth 2-2.5mm of Z-height from what I've read, so if you run bare die you'll either have to use copper shims, or ditch the retention mechanism completely so you can screw down the heatsink tighter. Although I'm not sure if laptop mounts have enough pressure to crush the bare die (desktop ones certainly one), so exercise caution.

 

Has anyone been able to confirm the exact dimensions?

Blue Mobility lists the dimensions as 385 x 262 x 35.7 mm (1.4" thick); however, this seems too good to be true, as the laptop can be configured with desktop CPU and the weight is 7.5lbs, which seems heavy for this relatively small form factor, even heavier than the P150SM-A.

I'm concerned it might be somewhat wedge shaped, like the P150SM-A, which is described as 14.80" (w) x 10.08" (d) x 1.38"-1.69" (h) - in other words 35mm (1.38") in the thinnest spot from which to measure, but actual thickness of the chassis is 43mm (1.69 inches).

 

Probably not until one of the vendors acquires them though there are side pics and back pics which should help depict if it has a wedge or not.


Update from Blue

So there's still a chance before/around xmas