Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

Only for EU...
I still have to wait longer before I have a more recent GPU. GTX 680M overclock only goes so far.

 

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I'm too n00bish to do this. *sigh*

This would be fantastic for me. Now, I've to find such a service in the USA.

I mean, why not?

Intel Delid Service VRM Protection Thermal Paste Sealant Temp Testing | eBay



$80 for this > $70 for extra copper cooling from Xotic?

This is brill. I can get Liquid Ultra in there too

JB, would all this tinkering void warranty?

EDIT: ROFL, JB looks like they are the same. And guess what, you will actually be shipping your CPU to the US --> Cornell, Wisconsin, United States

EDIT AGAIN: It does void your warranty.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide

 

unfortunately that quote from the korean user was actually talking about the 17" version...

it indeed is wedged-shaped, but 36 mm is actually the thickest part of the machine the leaked spec sheet lists 386 x 262 x 7-35.7 mm:



admittedly, its not official yet, but it points into the right direction if u ask me

um....DUH haha, yes it is indeed in the US and i would be sending my CPU off there haha unfortunately, its the only kind of offer on ebay that i could find, so yeah...

i could potentially do it myself, but i like the option of sealing the VRMs with that protective layer and also having the IHS reinstalled with that adhesive. plus, the CPU would look like it hasnt been tinkered with, so warranty....? still active as far as everyone else is concerned

 

Have anyone considered lapping their heatsink contact point?

 

yup, right here! havent gotten around to it yet though....

 

I plan to lap the heatsink at the bare minimum, and then take it from there. If I don't end up delidding I will definitely lap the IHS as well.

 

Just remember not to take much off

 

If too much is taken off, then might as well go all the way until the bare die becomes exposed. j/k

 

I meant the heatsink but that's true too

 

time for resellers to come-up with delidding service lol. 20C drop is huge and is a nobrainer considering heat is a big issue with desktop cpu in a 1.5 inch thick laptop

 

One thing i have noticed no one mentioning is the Thunderbolt port. I am assuming clevo took a pass for it in this model and all info in previous posts is final?

 

Seems to be. Might as well run flat out displayport 1.2a and forget thunderbolt with its port limitations on DP.

 

Asus G751 comes with Thunderbolt/Display port combo port and it can display 4K @ 60Hz. BTW Asus disabled iGPU.

 

That's thunderbolt 2, yes. But thunderbolt 2 ports are still a bit rare. I don't blame clevo for avoiding them. My TB v1 port only has DP 1.1 and can't do 4k 60Hz as far as I know (though I believe 1440p 120Hz should be fine for me).

 

Does the DP output on this laptop support 144Hz 1440p G-Sync?

Considering this + ROG Swift monitor.

 

for that you´d best check the capabilities of displayport 1.2

 

The i7-4790s is starting to look like a sweet spot for CPU options if you don't want to go with the deliding process.
Lower TDP(65W) but still have a base frequency of 3.2 GHz and Max Turbo frequency 4 GHz, not the fastest option but a good compromise between speed and power consumption = lower temps.

 

My local Clevo reseller just announced their version of the P7x0ZM:
https://www.aftershockpc.com/AFTERSHOCK W-15/

Very tempted to upgrade from my P150SM-A.

I think currently I'm still thinking about:
1) How does the newer eDP panels fare against the B156HW01 V7?
2) Will the cooling be good? If everything gets throttled then its pointless.

Else the performance gains IMO are quite substantial for the type of work I do.

 

Nvm for the stupid question. ROG monitor only has DP port so this laptop should work with it.

Sacrificing power to evade cooling mods?

Blasphemy

 

greetings to singapore, lah!

great to see other resellers finally chiming in with this machine

edit: pricing is pretty competitive, which i wouldve expected in singapore anyways just too bad they only include the 230W adapter, dont give an exact ETA and provide the same pics like BM before, just without the BM logo of course...

also, the specs seem to be copy pasted directly from the leaked specs sheet

 

Yup
I personally don't feel comfortable enough to stark taking a CPU apart and I know jaybee83 linked a service site that does it for you but still.....are the reliable.

 

according to their ratings so far they are

 

OK...but do you have to do any more mods for it to fit back together?
Would there be enough space for the heatsink to fit tightly without moding the heatsink or clamps?
Those questions would need to be answered before I think of going that route.
I will admit it is tempting for what they charge.

 

as they describe it, they include the following:

- delidding the CPU, thus removing the heatspreader
- cleaning up residual thermal paste and adhesive on the heatspreader and CPU
- application of a protective layer onto the CPU voltage regulator modules, which are located right next to the CPU die (needed when using electrically conductive thermal paste such as coolaboratory liquid pro/ultra, that could potentially cause a short on the VRMs otherwise)
- application of highend thermal paste (liquid ultra/pro) onto the CPU die
- reassembly of the heatspreader onto the CPU with a thermally resistant adhesive
- thorough stresstesting to check for proper adhesive functionality and CPU temps under different voltage and clock scenarios

All in all, you will get back the CPU in pretty much exactly the same state that u sent it off! only difference: u now have a highend liquid metal paste conducting the heat from the cpu die to the heatspreader instead of intel´s stock crappy "next generation polymer thermal paste" so then the only thing left for you to do is reinstall the cpu, enjoy the much lower temps and start overclocking

that is also the reason why im saying that the warranty should technically still be active, whos to know what went on under the heatspreader right?

 

Is there an option to get a higher wattage PSU, 300w maybe?

 

Greetings!

Their current pricing wasn't that competitive when they started in 2011.
But their pricing has gotten cheaper and cheaper.

For my 7 month old P150SM-A, the price seemed to have dropped by around $300-$500.

They just announced some promos for a PC Show we have at the end of this month.
AFTERSHOCK @ SITEX 2014 - Imgur

I'll see if I can get hold of any ETA or anything.
Really can't wait to see the unit in flesh.

 

I'll try to ask.

Just curious, if we're not overcloking, is there any practical reason to get a higher wattage PSU?

 

good thing is u can use both the 300W and 330W clevo PSUs with this model, since the power connector is the same (bluemobility also offers this upgrade option to the 330w psu) at stock clocks u should be fine with the 230W psu but considering the cpu and gpu alone consume 190W that wont leave much headroom for overclocking if u add the power consumption of the other system components...id guess like 20W if at all

 

With more watt headroom the PSU can provide extra stability, and lower within the maximum safe temperature limit (due to higher peak power limit).

Also remember that with laptop PSUs we don't know how efficient they are, 230w does not always mean 230w peak output due to efficiency issues. So you might end up with a larger power demand than your PSU can actually supply.

 

Can you please find out what is the model of the screen - 15.6 INCH FHD Matte Display with AHVA Wide viewing angle ?

JB, as I understand there is TIM between heatspreader and die, is there also TIM somewhere else? Like, where would the IC Diamond repaste offered by most resellers go?

 

they just replace the stock paste between the cpu/gpu and the copper cooler

 

yup yup, theres intel´s thermal paste between the cpu die and the heatspreader and the regular "user-upgradeable" thermal paste between the heatspreader and the CPU heatsink. the latter would be covered by resellers offering to swap the TIM to ICD7

really too bad intel doesnt solder the cpu die to the heatspreader anymore, thats the reason why sandy bridge CPUs overclocked like crazy without losing their coolness not the case anymore with ivy bridge and haswell though! lets just hope theyll get some improved thermal management done with broadwell

 

Ah, thanks! That tells me I might have to talk to that ebay guy if he could also do the heatsink repaste with Liquid Ultra (Of course, my shipment would be bulkier now)

 

Don't paste with liquid ultra for something that you're going to remove later on (since from the leaked pics the cpu sink is connected to the GPU). Liquid ultra will scratch the surface of the item that it has cured on when you try to remove the substance.

I recommend noctua NT-H1, gelid extreme etc. Since they are easier to apply, clean and does not scratch.

 

yep, what mobius said. TIM application is pretty straight-forward, not much you can do wrong there as long as u follow a few basic rules. im actually gonna do a little comparison of my own between OCZ Freeze, IC Diamond and Gelid GC Extreme. curious as to the outcome

 

ICD, Indigo, and Liquid Ultra all scratches the contact point (to a certain extent).

 

true, but to date i havent seen a single case of those scratches actually damaging the CPU die. let alone the heatspreader, which i really couldnt care less about as long as it doesnt disintegrate on me

 

I use gelid religiously, even put some on my bagels at work. Stuffs baws o;

 

I am bit confused are these new Clevos already out? if not is there any indication they will be released end of the year now?

 

nope, they havent been released yet, unfortunately... current rumours suggest an ETA of end of dec / beginning of january...

 

It may take some time to get the system just right, better that than rushing.

 

Would it be worth waiting for the new Clevos?
I am not entirely sure what the specs would be.

 

It really depends on your requirements but for a gamer the p150sm-a will do very well.

 

the specs u can check several posts before in the leaked specs sheet. for me its definitely worth it cuz im sure ill keep that machine for 4+ years, so might as well make it worth my money and go all out. since im not a fan of dual gpu systems and can use every bit of cpu processing power i can get my hands on for work this is pretty much the perfect machine for me

and yes youre right meaker, better to get the cooling system right on this one. mightve been a good choice to also opt for a three fan design like in the P65x series, but with connected heatsinks

 

Honestly they should've just went with a P570WM style cooling -- 2 fans and radiators for the CPU. Hell they could even just take the P570WM CPU heatsink and modify it a bit to fit the LGA1150 socket, and save some time and cost instead of redesigning it from the ground up. Since this is a single GPU machine they should be able to shrink the footprint and fit everything in a 15" chassis. Sure this might increase thickness but who cares. Anybody who buys the P7xxZM isn't looking for a disposable thin and light ultracrap anyway.

 

The p570wm heatsink is not just wide but also very thick.

 

You <del>don't</del> are not supposed to design a laptop in this class to fit the "thin and light" bill. Ok so the P7xxZM isn't exactly light, but it's not exactly what I'd call (overly) thick either, which indicates to me this time round Clevo may have gone for looks over performance, which is a mighty shame.

But anyway I'll defer final judgement until NBC or HTWingNut gets a review sample to play with.

 

It will be Feb by the time there are reviews for the ZM. O boy, I think I'll go play Civilization or something to kill all this time.

 

Yeah lets wait on bashing or criticizing till we get a working model to play with

Far to much I see someone make a comment ( usually someone knowledgeable ) and while they mean it "in the event of" most other people don't catch that and auto assume, "hey this person's smart, this must be true, this laptop sucks, n/m I'll let others know" and BAM rumors explode lol. Then you get the idiots and trolls jumping out of their nests having a blast with it lol.

What's more is we don't even know IF what we're looking at is the final design or not for the internals, for all we know those pics COULD be an earlier prototype, however w/ this being close to production and release, anything goes.


@Flamy

I think January would be the latest you'd have to wait

 

hm crap, the ebay delidding service doesnt seem to be online anymore....heres to hoping for a timely return!

edit: aaaand its back up again *lol*