Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

I know you said you're doing this for warranty purposes, but some part of me thinks Intel isn't so dumb as to not be able to recognize a chip that was delidded and then glued back on later. I'd ask that guy for more pictures of a what a finished product looks like before making any decisions.

I dislike the notion of using adhesives to attach the IHS again because you may end up negating the entire benefit of a delid. Too much adhesive and you screw up your thermals again (this is why the 3770K ran so much hotter compared to Sandy, not because of the "cheap TIM" used but because Intel used too much adhesive).

 

yeah i know. the good thing is: im not planning to glue the IHS right back onto the chip, just gonna clean it up and put it onto the CPU die in order to be able to properly install it into the laptop. once im planning to sell the CPU id reinstall the IHS and that by using as little adhesive as possible...

 

Looks pretty good. Amazon I think had a sale on i7-4790K for below 300 USD. Good luck on deliding.

 

I got a 850 Pro 1TB for $550. Amazon included AC:Unity for free lol

 

that only goes for the amazon.com though, not for the german site but thats ok, ill still stick to them, just easier to order everything in one place and theyre just 5€ more expensive than the cheapest online shop concerning the 4790K besides, they also got the 330w clevo psu for just 89€

best ssd evah! welcome to the 850 pro club

 

Maximum turbo core clock on the cpu only 798 MHz?

 

nah, thats most probably the idle clock thats showing 3DMark does that frequently...

 

Well all this waitings got me back into tightening down and tweaking my OC, good stuff, especially during winter!

Now that other vendors are starting to pick up words we can definitely count on next week to bring us something to expect, at least a few more preorder pages at this point, which in turn should turn us on to what other options vendors will be bringing. Sucks that has been behind lately or at least last on the list for options. Do we have other Clevo vendors in the US besides Sager? If so what resellers are connected w/ them?

I know theres an updated list but knowing which vendors each reseller is with helps since ultimately the options usually come from the vendor.

 

OriginPC, CyberpowerPC, iBuyPower, Falcon Northwest, Mythlogic and Malibal (we don't buy from malibal; consider them null and void). They do not usually go through resellers; you go to their websites usually. They all are usually more expensive than Xotic/LPC/etc and Sager as well, but RAM/SSD/etc offerings are usually a bit different.

 

AH yeah true IbuyPower and CyberPowerPC are the exact same entity though so its kinda odd they go that way, though the weirder part is regardless if you order with customizations or barebones through them its a MINIMUM of 2-3 weeks, since as they claim they order all the parts from clevo directly and put them together THEN ship it off lol, last I checked clevo sends out a whole unit not a chasis, motherboard, parts etc individually, that + hate that everything is generic and they never know what they're using for HD's SSD's or RAM (name brands) its just 1tb ssd or 1tb hdd and 16gb ram no speeds no name. Call them up? Their response, think of it like a wonderball, let it be a surprise. /endrant

Also I thought Mythlogic was overseas, thanks for pointing that out, but given all the situations w/ them definitely not, Origin though haven't heard to much on. Mainly just asking to keep tabs so I can help poll information.


Prime is going on a good 2 hours now <3 10 more to go

 

Haha good luck! I hope your 10 hours finish well XD

 

12 hours prime? holy crap i usually just stop at 20 min and call it a day haha same for kombustor

what do u mean with "all the situations /w them" concerning mythlogic? they generally have a pretty good rep around NBR...

 

20 minutes isn't enough to test full stability when you're into tweaking ram though, I had mine crash after 2 hours, though I'm keeping track of my BSOD codes so it's letting me know I"m on the right track. If it survives overnight I'll have a better feeling about things since I do a lot though my settings earlier were fine w/ 302 tabs in chrome + steam games running and pushing twitch, however after closing it all out and running prime for a bit I crashed showing that I needed to bump voltage another increment. Best I find it now ( or at least LOWER the chance of it happening ) before I end up in a huge raid and be the healer that poofs on her party.....

As for situations, basically from other friends, people I've talked to that have dealt w/ them, + some of the things I read in other threads, it just sticks, especially coming from regulars here, not out to shoot them down though so might edit that out, just when you hear some of the stuff you hear you genuinely get angry for others.

Back to Prime though honestly 2 hours would make me happy, however its funny that intel burn test can run all night but prime will crash, tons of other stuff to run as well but figured I'd really crack down this time and get the profile saved since I can't seem to find it from last year (the flash drive I saved it too...)



#edit WOW jay you made me lose my train of thought!

NewEgg black friday deals are up

840 1tb evo for 350$
4790k for 289$

will post others if I sense them being useful.

 

Too bad I get charged 9.25% tax in CA (yeah yeah Meaker we know about your 20%+ VAT in UK already ), so pretty much negates any black Friday savings.

Have a SanDisk Extreme Pro 960GB on order; after the 840 Evo debacle I'm not quite ready to throw down another $500+ on Samsung SSDs yet. Plus buying the SSD through company's EPP means $$$avings.

As for Prime I typically do blend instead of small FFT. Blend cycles between small and large FFT if I'm not mistaken, so you stress the CPU+ram at the same time. Blend will definitely catch ram issues where small FFT won't. Also 0x124 means either Vcore OR Vtt. In my case also I found it was actually Vtt so apparently my 4930K has weak cache in addition to turd IMC. Talk about getting lucky on the wrong side of the lottery lol.

 

Im only using blend mode and yeah Im running off that list. Bumping by .05 increments for now. Though the timings are pretty good for 64gb.

Usually vcaa shoukd suffice to give more power but in this case Im sure its IMC related as well. Boosting vcore a tad seemed to have fixed it as its still going strong since i tried vtt earlier and it instant bsod

what was the 840 debacle? The firmware issue w/ the losing read speeds? I fixed mine w/ the update + running the new software that replenishes it all haven't had an issue since, though curious to hear from others, so many posted in the other thread about it fixing it, haven't heard anything negative yet.

 

Dat US prices... the lowest I can find for a 850 Pro 1 TB is 470 €, which is almost 600 $...

 

OK I brought 2x 1TB Samsung 840Evo for £480. Single 1TB 850Pro cost £475+ so this is a superb deal.

 

just saw on the German mySn website that they have a countdown clock for their cyber deals until the end of monday. i just decided for myself that tuesday would be a GREAT day to put the U505 up for preorder

 

reply from mysn was just nonsense saying that the 17" version will be preorderable in december...
at least the only useful information i got was that the 17" version wont have SLI - so for those enthusiasts - bad news

 

I expect next week they'll start preorders and first delivery just before Christmas

 

Metabox is the only reseller here in Australia and their prices are a lot higher compared to US prices.
for example base p650SE is $1900
compared to XOTIC price $1350 for the same config.

 

youve also got logicalblueone down there but they have the same base price as it seems...

wouldnt import taxes + international shipping + currency conversion rates negate that price difference though?

 

Me after reading that I could get U505 before Christmas

 

LogicalBlueOne has the sample exact price of $1900 :/

yeah, import taxes , shipping, currency conversion rates will be like $100 ~150 cheaper. not worth the effort imo

 

dont get your hopes up too high guys, Im betting on ETA at the vendors around end of december, add to that delays in component availability plus time they need for internal testing, so my guess is first shipment go out beginning of january, if all goes well

 

Yep, at this point I'm thinking Jan 15 to finalize and Feb when I have it in my hands. Just collecting the SSDs and RAMs now Oh, the sound cards too. Plus the games. Sheesh, I've bought so many games already.

 

When i purchased my Clevo 2.5yrs ago, i went through P4laptops.
I looked into importing from USA, but after calculating import expenses, it came out pretty much equal for me.

Dont be afraid to email the company you choose, and ask for a 'best price' with your specifications included. I did that, and shaved a few hundred off my final config and couldnt be happier (especially after the excellent service i got when replacing my network card).

 

Just be aware of any charges you might face, for the UK it's really easy, it's just vat + shipping.

 

Actually for notebooks into the UK it's usually (item price + shipping + insurance + customs admin fee) + 20% VAT on the whole amount.

For goods that attract duty there's even more to add on (not notebooks thankfully).

Australia is much better than the UK, any shipments for personal use valued under $1000 AUD attract zero tax or duty.

Another bonus is you can also claim back any GST paid on items when you leave Aussie (purchased within the previous 30 days).

 

Yeah that's the 840 debacle I'm talking about. Ferris23 already complained that his speeds seem to be slowing down again, so we'll see. In any case I wouldn't expect to hear too many people complain again soon as this problem takes a while to surface for most. But just for kicks here's what my 500GB 840 Evo looked liked before the fix:



Yep it was slower than an HDD LOL. I'm just happy to know it wasn't my mind going crazy and playing tricks on me.

 

^ and this is why I went the extra mile for the 840 Pro in my mSATA slot =D

 

Depends on the service you have used and if you pay VAT in advance. Also VAT should only be applied to the value of the item I believe.

 

Nope it's on the whole lot.

 

Well after loads of thanksgiving turkey and family gatherings I'm back. Interesting developments are bound to be on the way I'm pretty much sure my next laptop will be a clevo question is which one will it be. This zm series kinda caught me off guard since the first laptops I was looking at were the p50's including the sager 9377 sli mobile flagship and the 8268 which with the old configuration of the i7 4810mq and 980m was the best bang in terms of raw power for the dollar. Recently the price went up on the i7 4810mq chip on pretty much every vendor I know of and it happened suddenly. So now I have no choice to see how the zm models turn out but maybe thats a good thing. The possibility of a desktop chip and a sleek new design has me real interested all of a sudden. Its between the 3 laptops I mentioned and its going to be a fun ride either way since all 3 are great machines. The zm is so mysterious though I'm afraid to jump and buy anything without seeing how it ends up first. I wish we could get more details even if it is a bit early.

 

If you're considering SLI for your next purchase you might wanna check out MSI's latest flagship, the recently announced GT80.

I myself am keeping a very close look at Clevo's ZM series as well as the GT80, my next laptop will be one of the two.

 

soldered cpu on the gt80, ugh...and they do NOT mention the gpus being mxm either, veeeery suspicious.... i really hope this trend doesnt continue

 

The digital numpad is what turns me off that thing is horrible. Tried it on the razer and their keyboard i prefer the feel of the keys tbh, hopefully new options in newer releases anyways. Or possibly 1 with digital and one without would be nice to contend to both crowds

The diff is like playing DDR on a flat pastic mat vs a true arcade mat...

Granted pure gamers may not need it so it might be aimed at a specific crowd.

 

Any idea what approximate price difference should I expect in UK compared to the p651se in a rough similar configuration (mainly 970m, same Ram, but obviously different CPU)?
I am tempted to buy the p651se with a smaller portable design (but poor battery life as probably expected), at the same time if the price difference wouldn't be too large (let's say less than £200) p750zm would also make sense, although larger it would be a proper desktop replacement...

 

Same price differential as the US as a percentage most likely but the regions can be different sometimes.

 

Could you please point me to which us resellers have both these laptops on their website for order/preorder so I can make a comparison?

 

Not many places have it up for Pre-Order yet, you would be better off waiting to see closer to the time.

 

i can only say that in my case, comparing percentage price differences on the ordering pages of bluemobility (who have both laptops up) and transferring those pricing differences to mysn, with whom ive had a p651sg order with before i cancelled it in favor of the p751zm, the pricing is almost identical, give or take 50€

but as meaker already pointed out, these calculation games are just that until we have more resellers/vendors chiming in with their respective preordering on the zm series...

 

I did some comparison based on Aftershock prices (I know, it's only speculation, but still...) and the rapport between the P750ZM and Clevo P650SE appears to be around 1.19 - 1.22 for same configuration (970m and 16Gb RAM, same hdd) with the difference being the processor (1.19 for 4790s which I'd prefer for lower W or almost 1.22 for 4790k).
Based on Scan UK prices that would translate in aprox. £200-230 difference, probably more for Mysn as they appear to have higher prices.

Hmm, difficult choice between P650/651 portability (and the fact that it is available now for ordering.... which is so tempting) and P750ZM's better CPU + possibility to upgrade CPU/GPU in the future as non-soldered... for aprox. £200-250 do you think it's worthwhile? Would you think differently if you'd know the new Broadwell/Skylake processors will come on a different socket (which Skylake almost surely will)?

 

Cpu upgradability is much less important to a gamer than gpu. A decently clocked haswell wouod likely span over several generations without a significant bottleneck.

 

Well not quite really sold on the sli just yet and actually I was more leaning towards the single gpu's just to keep the prices down and the new 970/980m cards seem to be strong enough in single form. Like I said its between the clevos at this point since the prices and flexible upgrading of cpu/gpu seems very impressive. Thanks anyway it looks nice but i'm a old schooler who knows what he wants and also wants, something upgradable and least expensive for its class. I think your playing smart looking at different brands and choosing what works best for you.

Speaking of prices I hope to see a nice variance of prices for this zm since it uses much less expensive desktop cpu's. Also with the new advancements with chips getting smaller and more efficient the desktop cpu is going to really shine over the years. I think keeping the prices down would be the best strategy for clevo or any upgradable notebook maker right now. Making these in the 1000 dollar entry level range will make this sell many units.

Why I compare it to the p150s is that I love some things it has such as price, potentiality for upgrades or repair with ease of access to the mobo, great full numeric professional keyboard, and a dvd/bluray drive I know it makes the system bulkier but for some people its important to have it for portable usage. Again those are not deal breakers I just mentioned it because I really admired the p150s for a while now.

Its going to come down to bang for my buck and the zm with the desktop cpu's might win out if my guesses are right. Unless intels 5th gen mobile cpu's become stronger but less expensive or they just reduce the price of the 4th gen chips which are already pretty strong. One thing I wish they both had is a PCIE slot, a thunderbolt2 port and a larger battery option of a 12 cell or higher. A thunderbolt 2 would have a number of uses for increasing data transfer plus transfer speed and can also serve as a alternate way of increasing gpu performance if needed. Neither the p150's or the Zm"s seem to offer those.

 

^ Should totally put that in your sig so you don't have to reiterate/repeat it every page xD


So got back word that Blue is officially shipping their units on the 7th of Jan ( word from Clevo )
So that means other Vendors/resellers should be having it around that time frame as well, and my guess would be between the 7th and the 15th, and some possibly even earlier depending on who gets first dibs.

 

As a side note I would go for the 2tb hdd if you have a full height slot available luna

 

Wasnt even aware that was an option yet lol. Hdd right ? As ssd would be at least a grand right now

 

Exciting

 

Oh yes... this model is coming...