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    Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Fluffy_Raptor, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Unfortunately no, mostly because the Enthoo Primo was a "rush build". I did my initial build in the Enthoo Luxe because I thought the lights were nice. Well turns out I got tired of the lights after the first week, and the Luxe just felt so restrictive even though it's supposed to be a full tower (hats off to those who can do an mITX build, I'd die of claustrophobia LOL). Finally decided to bite the bullet and tear it down and setup shop in the Primo instead.

    In lieu of a build log here's a couple shots of the finished thing:
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    *the upper rear fan has been changed to an intake instead of being an exhaust. Made no difference to thermals but it made me feel better to have some air going over the mobo VRMs. Also just switched out the 840 Pro for the Extreme Pro today.


    Before you ask, yes the case is sitting on a ULine dolly, because the thing is just too freaking bulky to move around without one. And it being 70 pounds sure doesn't help one bit.

    A nice benefit of the dolly is the case gets some very good clearance for the floor fans. The opening actually lines up with them rather nicely.
     
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    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    rofl omg don't even go there, I watched some kid on Overclock throw the worlds biggest tantrum because I chose the TH10 over the STH10 just because I wanted slightly more room for my build w/ a cleaner look, dear god let me pull up that mspaint pic I drew w/ my mouse to depict it.... He took out 5 nearby farms, 3 businesses and 40+ cars on the highway venting his frustration....dear god don't make me relive that LOL


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    You haven't lived till you've filled this thing, and w/ the theme (metroid) I had going, nothing fit better than this. THe TX10 was a bit overkill for me as I haven't reached THAT level of storing my son in a stash and go type mobile home xD

    Seriously I invite you to finish going through my build log!
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Love the MS paint, and woah that dude needs to chill or he gun asplode XD btw wasn't being serious in case that wasn't clear, I'm not sure what in the world you'd need a STH10 for short of building a fully watercooled dual/quad socket server I suppose
     
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    lol I know you were teasing but wow that brought up some traumatic experiences ;~;

    Sure you're not confusing the STH10 for the TX10? lol the STH10 is just a 900D w/ an additional section on top mirroring the bottom (with a few extra kinks ) and 90% of people I see on OCN run out of space or get way to cramped w/ their 900D giving them a bit more breathing room w/ the STH10 which is still the best case for a single sided case. Not gonna find better there.

    TX10....that's for hosting either 2 PC's or the worlds most insane OC giving 4x 560 rads to your CPU and 4x each per GPU lol. For me I'd use it to host 2-3 comps.
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    lights on

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    These are prior to fully up so I should probably take some updates ones next time I clean it.

    Added SOME lights inside as well as working on a lightbox layout for it as well

    As far as the p751ZM goes I'm willing to bet that around the 100th page mark we'll have a new series of information to go off of granted we're now officially into December and all must fall in line.
     
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  5. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Nope was definitely thinking of the STH10. The TX10 has a very clear purpose and target audience so it makes sense. How do you run out of room with a 900D :eek: Well ok if memory serves the amount of radiator it can fit without modding isn't that impressive relative to its size. It seems to me the STH10 is targeted to those who want a 480 rad and independent loop for each component in their system.
     
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    Updated previous post w/ old shots, as for the 900D when we play we play big, you'll have to see the many build logs over on OCN, It's great for single rigs but when you're expanding your cooling system you need room for air to circulate well and things get HEAVILY cramped when you stack in 4x rads. For an average OC rig yeah I can see it being clean I guess I'm more pushing @ the big league, SLI users that want the most ouf of their system lol, I started with a Corsair 540 took it back picked up the 900D took that back and ordered a Case labs, having 2 sides to separate components, and NOT have rads facing eachother goes a long way, every C counts, CFM, etc that + I have room for more w/ my TH10 if I need I could put another Radiator in the front if I ditch the bay res and or ODD's ( could throw a 360-480, however given my loop I"m quite happy and room to build my invisible walk for samus and kraid/ridley if it gets there lol.
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Makes sense, sort of. Can't say I'm at the level where I sweat over every C or CFM lol. Hell I plan on watercooling "for fun" so yeah you can be sure I'm definitely not in the big league.
     
  8. LunaP

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    Honestly its all preference and the biggest takeway is convenience, if you've got a cramped build it is HARD to get to certain areas so you have to plan out better.


    WHY IS EVERYONE SO QUIET lol, if other people were talking we wouldn't be heading for a cliff .3. Lets get some Batman jokes up in hyar!
     
  9. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Well instead of bypassing the swear filter my catchphrase is now HOLY FARTING BATMAN. Does that count?

    Speaking of convenience, I plan on putting so many quick disconnects into my (eventual) full loop it won't be funny. Preliminary plan is to have the GPU and CPU blocks completely isolated, and may even go further and isolate each rad to make the entire system completely "modular". I definitely do worry about killing flow and head pressure, so we'll have to see. But that's a long term project, since the near term goal is to get a simple CPU loop up and running. (plus GM200 and 390X are nowhere to be found, and we're probably talking next March for GPU blocks to come out).
     
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    busy reading and shaking my head at your RIDICULOUS desktop builds :D much respect tho :p ;)
     
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    Nah, the 128GB and 256GB versions were 840s, and the 512GB version was the 840 Pro. It was ridiculously hard to find the info due to nobody giving two meowmixes about mSATA, but I made sure before I went for it. Or I just would have gotten one in my second HDD slot (it's a little cheaper there). I left that slot open purposefully though so that I could get another regular SSD on a black friday sale or something later and add it in XD.
     
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    well... that was nice.
     
  13. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Talking about desktops in a thread about a laptop with a DESKTOP processor isn't OT. :D
     
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    Speaking of desktops, I got tempted into getting an external display yesterday because of all the BF/CB deals. I didn't buy anything, but it has now entered consideration. And a new desk from IKEA. *sigh*

    And, to think I just dropped in here for a 'gaming ultrabook'
     
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    P751ZM aint no ultrabook... its a smaller and heavier brick to the P150EM.
     
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    Yes, I know. I have been swayed. :eek:
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Well the P751ZM will be an ultra(powerful)book, so it's an ultrabook of sorts. ;)
     
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    Sadly, I still have to wait on the P751ZM until the SLI variant is released. If it uses two power bricks, I'll go for the lighter one. Hopefully by March.

    I 'need' a PC by Xmas, so will be getting the P651SG first. P150EM is currently being sold to a friend...
     
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    IF such a varient were to launch it would need two bricks yes to support the highest end configurations unless they run a bit too close for comfort.
     
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    For a SLI machine I still think the true successor to P570WM would be a better idea if going with desktop chips. Otherwise it's purely a clockspeed play.
     
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    A high clocked quad helps push that frame rate beyond 60 if you hook it up to a high refresh rate display.
     
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    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    well... that was vague.


    They already announced the refresh on P570WM w/ X99 + SLI lol Blue (as usual as of late ) was the first to bring it up lol. The P570WM is the only survivor as of current it seems from the line of D900 series at least in thickness wise.

    @Meaker do you remember the 19" Clevo back in 2006? Did it flop or just to soon for its time? My roomate bought one and wow was the screen on that thing gorgeous, though wish they had done a full style keyboard vs compacted it like the 17/15" models to much wasted space on the sides as they could have moved up the speakers.
     
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    Models that are phased out are usually because they did not really find a niche for the time, either they were too large, too noisy or too expensive.
     
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    P570WM successor announced? huh? link please!
     
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    What I was getting at is that a desktop quad + mobile SLI machine doesn't offer enough of a performance advantage over the existing P377SM-A with an MX chip. It might cost a bit less and have better thermal management depending on how Clevo is going to design this thing, but it just doesn't have enough of a differentiation.

    That being said, if socketed mobile chips are indeed being phased out then this might be the only way to go for replaceable CPUs from this point onwards.
     
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    Refresh not successor lol, its the one I posted like 40 pages ago from Blue's FB when they were showing them off. So far Release is looking around Q3 2015 though possibly earlier from what they're saying. People were asking about SLI and they referred them back to the 370 and 570
     
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    link me to it
     
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    ah ok, so basically just the new "version" of p570wm with 980m sli, gotcha :) u already got me excited here :p not that i would get myself such a monster, its just always a fascinating behemoth to behold :D
     
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    its been awfully quite for a while. no new leaks yet huh
     
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    well, we already know the specs, visuals, approximate ETA and have an image of the cooling system. the next two "milestones" would be preorder pages popping up and the first review ;) until then, not much to discuss...
     
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    Guys, here's question I've been pondering for a few weeks, hope I can get some different points of view on this:

    Is there a point in choosing a P75xZM with the cheapest possible processor in order to save money to upgrade to the newest generation 14-nm processors when they come out? After all, these kind of nm jumps happen about once per 2 years, so it seems to me that choosing to wait for the much more power efficient (therefore more OCable) 14-nm processors is a smarter investment than choosing to buy the 4790K.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    so no P770ZM releasing with x99 and sli ?
     
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    No that was never happening... It would still be a 4790K but with a single GPU in the 17" model according to the leaked benchmark..
     
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    i have been speculating about exactly this these past weeks. thing is, we just dont know if broadwell will bring "sufficient" improvements to the table or not. it could very well be that the new chips will show worse overclocking potential and higher temps than haswell. so for myself i decided to go for the cheapest possible cpu when ordering, installing a 4790K myself and then sell the lower cpu to save some money. once broadwell is out with reviews ill then sell the 4790K and use the money to get myself a broadwell model. that, of course, only if its really worth it ;)
     
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    Apparently, broadwell is 3% faster than haswell at same clock :/
     
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    that was to be expected and no surprise. the real goodies lie in performance per watt in this gen :) if broadwell really brings heat and wattage savings to the table with its smaller arch, then they should in theory be better in overclocking :p
     
  37. bigspin

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    This waiting is killing me....
     
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    wonder what the underpanel looks like and what's the recomended price?
     
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    pricing will be different for each reseller/vendor/country/configuration, so not really easy to answer that. as for more internals and backpanel, well i guess we´ll have to wait for a review ;)
     
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    What's the point of ordering cheapest and buying 4790K yourself? I though the price difference between them when ordering is the difference between their respective prices, not the full price of the 4790K?
     
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    point being that resellers / vendors want to make a profit and thus their prices are above regular aftermarket upgrade prices.

    example:
    price of base cpu model is 150€ and is offered at 0€ upgrade price (naturally, since its the base model)
    price of 4790K is 305€ and is offered at 250€ upgrade price (just guessing here, but wouldnt surprise me if it indeed was that high)

    in case of including the 4790K in your order you basically pay: 150€ for the base cpu model + 250€ upgrade price = 400€ total

    in case of 4790K aftermarket upgrade by yourself you pay: 305€ for the 4790K - 100€ to 150€ when selling the base cpu on ebay / amazon / etc. = 205€ to 255€ total

    in this particular case, including the 4790K in your order would only make sense if the upgrade price from the cpu base model is LESS than 100€ and to be honest, I dont really see that happening...

    ;)
     
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    Even if your estimates are correct, after you pay eBay/PayPal charges, you are not going to see a healthy profit.
     
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    paypal + ebay amount to about 12% of the sales price, so youre looking at around 230 to 285€ when upgrading yourself. thats still 115 to 170€ cheaper than including the 4790K in your order! still totally worth it if you ask me ;)

    besides, look whos talking! youre the one linking saving deals for hardware here all the time :D every buck counts!

    also, if youre a bit patient you can always pull the trigger on a used 4790K still sporting warranty and save even more money...
     
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    Problem is you cannot sell used OEM units at full price. Specially if you buy the low end CPU and try to sell it at aftermarket, demand is bit slim and buyers looking for bargain. I'm always looking for savings, but unless you can earn healthy profit! it's better to buy the higher end first time.
     
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    I'm going to contribute to the thread as well by not reading anything and repeating questions that have been asked every other page. #Supportlazyilliterates2014


    Actually no I can't, I can troll but I refuse to be lazy... Instead I will contribute even better for those with high demands that want their answers now, This link here will give you the power to see the answers to the general questions and concerns, this way you no longer have to state the blatant obvious "I'm pretty sure this has been asked...." <3 #Lookinoutforpeeps2014

    <s>My only concern w/ Sandisk 960 atm is longetivity, as people claim so many years on other drives, however after a good solid year you notice a good performance hit, so now that we're into newer generations, my questions is how well does it hold up or has it not been out long enough? I'm googling it up right now for reviews,</s> #Googleismyfriend | however IF its, then hoping to hear more real time use from people here. If not I'll stick w/ the 850 pro 1 TB, so far tweaktown has a good review on it as well as a few other places, not to much diff between hem.

    @ Jay once you make the owners club you should probably make a recommended parts list as well for some top end gear to compliment this lol, such as RAM, SSD's etc. I can help find reviews for each and we can name them accordingly.

    Alienware practically does it :rolleyes:
     
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    ull be surprised at what people are bidding for on ebay these days :D sold my defective(!!!) 7970m gpu for over 100€ :p
    sure i cant expect full price but thats why i said 100-150€ :) any way u look at it, ure definitely saving money! aside from that its always a good thing to have a working (second) cpu in my laptop when i decide to delid my 4790K ;)

    and luna is cracking me up as usual *lol* and yup, sounds like a plan concerning the owner´s lounge :) dont you dare swap out that 850 pro 1TB!!! *throws pink cotton balls at you while yelling* :mad2: :elvis: :err: :nah:
     
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    I second the thought of also listing aftermarket upgrades we can make. So far, this is what I have:

    Screen:

    (not confirmed yet, below options are for P651SE/G

    AUO B156HAN01.2 - 25ms, IPS (72% GAMUT)
    LTN156HL01-101 - 16ms response time, IPS


    SSD:

    Samsung 850 Pro (the one I got and saw the most recommended here)
    Sandisk Extreme Pro
    Intel 730 - on sale at Newegg for 200 bucks (480 GB) right now --> Newegg.com - Performance Unleashed


    RAM:

    G.SKILL Ripjaws 32 GB 2133: G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB (4 x 8G) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3L 2133 Laptop Memory Model F3-2133C11Q-32GRSL - Newegg.com
    CORSAIR VENGEANCE (only 16GB available at 2133)

    USB Sound Card:

    FiiO E17
    Creative Omni (I got this. Still ways to go in my audiophile journey :D)

    Delidding service for 4790K: :D

    Intel Delid Service VRM Protection Thermal Paste Sealant Temp Testing | eBay
     
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    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Whoah there sparky, we don't even know what types of screens it supports yet xD, remember what I said about rumors, spreads like fires..... Next thing people will be floodin in with complaints about how there's only 2 screen options and wth is wrong w/ clevo yada yada.....dear lord I can hear them @ the gates EDIT IT NOW EDIT IT NOW!!!!!!! #FlameshieldsonGO


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    :eek:

    nowyouseemenowyoudont
     
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    AAaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh sweet!
     
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