Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

OK philosophical question - why have desktop CPUs so far only been in monster-size machines? Is Clevo planning some water works surprise for us with P7x0ZM photoshopped out of the above pic? I suppose if Putin turns the gas off this winter, a desktop Haswell could be a lifesaver in keeping hypothermia at bay. Probably keep it in the bedroom where it could otherwise get cold at night.

Also ... dang that Intel 730 ssd is almost as good a deal as the one at overclockers on black friday (that I missed by about 3 minutes). Sure it runs hot and power hungry but at that price : performance, you just gotta grab em.

 

Looks like a new beast. I actually love the new look. And the cooling looks impressive, 7 heatpipes (even if the one which isn't linked to any heatsink looks strange, I guess it's a "thermal bridge" to balance the heat between cpu and gpu)

 

@Luna: One of the major selling points of the SanDisk Extreme Pro for me was its absolutely amazing consistency. ( LegitReview, TweakTown -- note the lower access time as well)

My main concern was whether SanDisk was trading snappiness for consistency again, as the previous offering (Extreme II) did just that. But I'm extremely pleased to say that no, thanks to upgraded firmware and a faster controller, the Extreme Pro is every bit as snappy (if not slightly more so) as the 840 Evo 1TB, which was the king of snappiness.

And keep in mind the Extreme Pro 960GB could be had for $474.99 on Amazon, an incredible value and unbeatable price for its performance. The 850 Pro even during the Black Friday sale was still going for $549.99.

 

*pats*

Not knowing makes you come up w/ all sorts of crazy ideas huh? So much that you thought you were in the Alienware thread LOL *shot*, welcome to the Clevo section my friend

I'm sure it'll all be ok.

tl;dr

Clevo != Alienware
And SCIENCE! (technology)

 

Desktop CPUs have enormous power requirements compared to mobile counterparts, and cooling has previously been unable to keep up unless in a monster size case. A lot of folks think their CPU is the most power hungry component of their laptop, and question Clevo's design on the P650se (which has 2 gpu fans and more heat pipes than the single fan for the CPU). GPUs in laptops can use twice the amount of power compared to mobile CPUs (look at the GTX880m @ 100w and the i7-4710 @ 47w).

I think laptop cooling has finally gotten to the point where this can be done without insane case sizes, and partially because CPUs (even desktop ones) down clock to save energy. Also, in my opinion water cooling in a laptop is a recipe for disaster. Pumps and radiators don't like being knocked around, make lots of noise, and you risk all sorts of issues when deploying in a mobile device.

FWIW, most laptops employ another type of water cooling already...heat pipes are typically filled with a liquid inside which turns into a vapor when hot, moves down the heat-pipe to the air-to-air radiator at the end, and turns into liquid again. They're pretty incredible.

 

Edited mine since you gave the better s'planation~

I can get the 850 pro atm for about 500$ which is why I'm asking. So its about a 30$ difference, which is another reason I'm asking.

 

WHERE? I got it for 550, and I searched high and low for it.

Although, I did get AC: Unity with it.

 

Up until Haswell, the part about GPU being more power hungry was true. However Haswell CPUs are unbelievable power hogs when overclocked. I've seen my 4900MQ pull over 120W @ 4.2GHz when benching XTU. No that's not a typo. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY freaking watts, on a mobile quad core CPU. (go ahead, ask me what my thermals were like, I DARE you )
For comparison my hex core 4930K @ 4.5GHz has a peak power draw of 145W when benching XTU.

And if you want an even more extreme example, well just look up AnandTech's review on 5960X.

Spoiler

Source

WHAT WHERE HOW? In that case I'd just wait for the Extreme Pro to drop below $450

 

...suppose I should put a disclaimer about it being at stock speeds eh? Talk about inefficiency when overclocking, sheesh..

I suspect headroom on a 4790k will be pretty limited, since it is already power hungry compared to the 4770k, and it was just a small bump in speed.

 

Haha you know the sad thing is, Intel's claim of Haswell being more efficient is exactly as you described, "at stock". When overclocked these things approach 290(X) levels of power hungriness lol. Another reason why I stuck with IB-E and X79.

 

Fry's cyber monday in store sales. That + Idk if everyone is aware but NewEgg DOES give a 10% additional discount off purchases when using their mobile app, not sure if its for the first time or what not but thats how I knocked 76$ off my Desktop RAM before.

 

Thanks for being patronizing and not making an attempt to discuss the points I raise.
I am writing this on post on P170HM, while still owning an W870CU, and before that a D900F (sold) and before than an M570TU and before that an M570RU. I'm the biggest Clevo fanboy there is. I have never owned an alienware. Why do you make things up?

 

Haswell still ecological when you compare with AMD FXs, especially the FX9590

 

@varadero: she just playin brah

on another note, 120-400W+ for an oced cpu eh? *checks up on LN2 storage* yep, good to go!

 

nuts! I ended up with 2x Intel 730 series 480GB drives and 2x Sandisk Ex Pro 480GB.

Decide to keep Sandisk drives and sell Intel 730's.

BTW what's the difference between Gelid extreme & supreme?

 

Yea, I didn't get a 10% off on Mobile when I tried. There was a 5% off coupon though which only came to $18. There is a $25 off with Visa Checkout, which I'm waiting to use...

 

HIGH 5 for the IVY-E Lovers <3!
Still best generation IMO!

What's there to make up? I simply said lets not jump the gun lol. I should be asking YOU that question mr "Biggest Clevo Fanboy" you'll probably need to own at least 10 more models to compete w/ #10 [ANOTHER TEASE]

Anywhoo you came in w/ the furnace jokes I thought it'd be fun to tack on, I'm a previous D900T Owner 9860 and 9750(still own), m980U, W110, P150EM, W230SS, and soon to be P751ZM, so that puts me 2 ahead o:

Why so tense big guy? relax a bit its a tech forum/the internetz we're not all trolls out to kill you might need to re read my comments lol anywhoo as Jay below says~

^ This pretty much, taking a defense on the first response isn't always healthy for ya <3

Was figuring you'd play along and be like "OH phew! guess there's good news to look forward too then "

Unless you're defending alienware o;? [<--- THIS IS ANOTHER JOKE]

about 1-2C tops last anyone reviewed it on OCN, Extreme's the better one I use it and can vouch for its awesomeness, I'll be taking pics when I clean my loop later.

Also they have the 730's 480gb for 199$ on Newegg atm, tempted to get one for my netbook or is there cheaper/better? since the HDD on it died for the 2nd time ( it has a big issue killing platters within 1 year lol )

OH yeah they have deals like that now and then "pay using X and save X% or $" Sometimes its 5-10% sometimes its 50-100$ depending on the amount.

 

Clevo p750zm + Broadwell !

 

I c wut u did thar

<3 that song btw.

 

OMG, the NP8652 is so tempting.

must
wait
for

reviewsss

CAKEFISH, all the best of luck and fortunes of your ancestors, man.

BATMAN, are you listeningggggggggggg.............

 

Mine comes in around 19-21st

 

flamy... 2015 is it, brah. 2015.........

 

a bit OT here but you seem to be the people with the most up to date knowledge...
is there any working Display Port to HDMI 2.0 adapter available which supports 4k@60Hz?
i've seen a few on amazon but when you read the reviews they either don't work at all or are not 60Hz capable... (my PC graphics card just has HDMI 1.4 and i wouldn't wonder if the P751ZM would also "only" have HDMI 1.4(My 4K TV just has HDMI 2.0 but no Display Port...))
just thinking of buying a Geforce 980 for my PC but i'd prefer to have a Displayport Adapter so i can hook up my PC and my new Laptop to the TV...

 

I wonder if a (mini)DP to HDMI 2.0 cable wouldn't be a better idea. Certainly much cheaper at least.

 

as the first "Question and Answer" on this product states: Its only HDMI 1.4 so no 4k@60Hz...

 

I'd wait a little bit for the adapters to mature. Until then you should at least be able to get 1080p out of it which should look decent.

 

also some OT from my side: keeping busy with my gf's new tegra note 7 (her xmas present shhhhh!), oced the cpu to 2.1 ghz, flashed newest rom version and tuned the touchscreen responsiveness, now this puppy is running soooo smoooooooth, shell love it

and i at least can waste some time waiting for batman... win-win!

also managed to sell off almost all the parts of my old machine, only the defective gpu and one of my psus left, both being auctioned off on ebay atm. so far very happy with the outcome, didnt expect to still get so much money for those parts! ill put it to good use for batman, that way my trusty ol' p150hm will not have died in vain

 

The fact that they also made the Heatpipe warning stickers black too! This must be great! xD

 

Hey Jaybee any idea when pre order is begining? Did mySN tell you?

 

My guess is... uhmm, 24 december !!!

 

lol, your guess is as good as mine at the moment unfortunately no update on that yet... although i would be surprised if preorders didnt go up before the 15th, cuz that was the initial ETA...

 

I just got an nvidia shield Been having fun with it.

 

OT: Any idea which retailer is closest to New York?

 

isnt eurocom shipping directly from new york?

 

does any1 know if there's a clevo seller who ships with swedish keyboard exept mysn ?

 

Sweedish Clevo retailer maybe? Should have them...

 

Can anyone tell me what is the rough estimate on the price tag in USD for the batman laptop?

 

can you please give me some links? im google'ing like an idiot

 

umm....depends on the config ure choosing? the country ure ordering in? the reseller / vendor ure going with? shipping costs and taxes u have to include? difficult to answer that question

 

Apparently the service/sale feedback for them in this thread is poor :/

 

The forum sticky post Clevo Resellers in the European Union -V1 should healp you out there.

 

Page 100. Luna, where's my pre-order??

 

Nuts, spent almost $1500 on my custom loop already, and I haven't even bought the GPU blocks. Damn those Bitspower fittings, they really creep up on you. No ZM until much later it seems, might even have to put GM200/390X on hold until this hemorrhage stops, or I decide to spend my bonus+tax refund prematurely...

 

I still can't understand why people want to spend such absurd amounts of money on cooling.. $1500 on liquid cooling really?

 

dat e peen bruv


in seriousness, components have a longer life when they are operating at a lower temperature

 

On desktops loops can last several generations of hardware with only minor changes.

 

who cares about the lifespan of components?
every enthusiast and most people buy new pc/laptop at least after 3or4 years.
the cooling is completly irrelevant for the lifespan as it counts mybe after 10years, nobody knows.

the temperature is good to overclock or to have a silcince machine thats it

so many pc components guys have fear of having 95°C at their gpu (R9 290(x)) or 95°C on cpu.... in a laptop its a completly normal temperature and nobody cares.
but its the same silicium so no worrys guys, pc components last much longer than we need them

 

Well I went way way way over budget, partly because of shipping, and also because it turns out some of the components I originally bought did not fit, so there's quite a bit of sunk cost. You can measure everything and seek out all the technical drawings you want, but turns out that still doesn't help in the end. :/

Also I wanted to do this "just because" and because I like tinkering with stuff. No e-peen involved, if anything I'd get laughed at because for what I paid you could build a really high end loop, not so much with what I have.

 

Sorry this might be a newbie question, Just wondering, what's the most powerful cpu currently available that can be installed in this laptop? Without minding cooling for the moment. Just wanted to find out the upgrade ceiling of this machine. Could it be possible that it's compatibility with broadwell and skylake will be limited, and the current haswell lineup could have bigger performance potential? Basically just asking how future proof would the p750 be, since broadwell is coming up soon anyway?

Would it be wiser to wait for the next chipset/socket release since the p750 chassis might accommodate that later on also?

 

4790K


As long as there is a BIOS update for the laptop, likely yes.

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Spec sheet in BM website says that the laptop uses Z97: BM P751ZM GAMING - PREORDER ! - [CLEVO] - BLUEMOBILITY