even if we dont have an official bios upgrade, it would just be a "simple" step of manually adding the respective broadwell cpu microcodes in order for them to be recognized by the system. and that totally possible with some prema magic![]()
so yeah, 4790K for now, broadwell to follow suit in several months time![]()
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So long as there are no small hardware requirements that it falls foul of.
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true, i remember going from sandy to ivy bridge there were some additional hardware components necessary on the mobile mobos for the new cpu models to be supported... but then again, intel didnt promise the 6 series chipsets to be designed for and work with the new gen, but such is the case with the 9 series Z97
so im staying very optimistic!
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The broadwell in my mind is a necessity for a notebook like this whatever it tales to improve cooling and keep temps down pal. I would actually rather test the waters with a 5690k quad core to keep temps and prices down while waiting to see if broadwell works and is worth it. Just my choice as I can see others have a bigger budget than I do.
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ikr, the waiting game is slowly but surely getting old
it HAS to be this week or next monday at the latest!
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I'm actually considering a different strategy for this, i might build a desktop with the 4790k as my workstation for the moment, and then just get the most affordable fastest clock CPU (not necessarily the most powerful since the software i use doesn't fully utilize all cores when creating content unless when i am rendering) for the P750, but get a 2-4gb quadro card with it if possible. And then just have the option to swap cpus as needed. That way i can use the desktop as a render farm while i continue to create content independently on 3k or 4k with the P750. What's good about this is that Desktop CPUs are more accessible to purchase and resell compared to mobile cpus.
When a good broadwell (affordable and significantly more powerful) comes along i can continue to switch/swap/upgrade cpus on both machines and/or upgrade the desktop mobo to suit the next gen.
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BTW, are there any more leaked images aside from those posted here already? does the production version have an aluminum finish simliar to the P650?
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thus far the only info we have on the exterior of the machine is a rubberized finish based on a plastic shell, similar to the p150 series. dont really mind that though, its a very sturdy design, less prone to bending, less heat transfer to the outside and still looks pretty darn good
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I did post previously but had no answer. Hope someone can help.
Is it worth waiting getting the P1 models which dont have desktop CPUs or waiting for the upcoming P7 models which have desktop cpus?
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You'll get there Tom, if you're on your desktop a lot and you love to game or push or w/e the hell it is that drives you, you'll eventually get there. I mean I ask myself similar questions all the time, why do people pay $$$$$$$$$$$$ for cars when they can take the bus, same thing gets you to a location, its cheap just has its limits
Why drink soda, I have water? Water = free soda = 99cents + tax so a 1.05 = the dollar itself is useless = McDonalds is a lie! Screw you dollar menu!
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If you can wait then feel free but don't get caught in the waiting and never buying cycle
The P7 series will be a bit heavier and wont get the battery life of the mobile CPU based machines but will have more CPU grunt behind them (especially at stock).
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How will Batman's battery life compare to the P650? I'm not terribly concerned about it but curious at the very least.
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My loop is anything but high end. Only ended up costing that much because shipping is a , and I bought a whole bunch of stuff I didn't need.
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short answers cuz on my way to work:
edit: now at work, so rest of my answer - broadwell cpus will likely be compatible with the P75xZM, since Intel confirmed Z97 chipset compatibility with the 5th gen of Core i CPUs (that would be broadwell). as for gpus, your guess is as good as mine. hardware/physical compatibility will be given, unless someone decides to change the mxm 3.1b form factor to something different, which i doubt. the real issue will be vbios/system bios compatibility of the machine: either our resident wizards prema and svl7 could help us out in that regard or were just "out of luck" and "stuck" with the 970/980M cards. but thats a throw of dice u take with any machine, no matter which model.
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I am still optimistic that the mxm3b will be used for the next round of vcards and I love having the option of swapping out the desktop cpu in the zm's slimline design. I hope this notebook turns out great (cooling) because I am really swaying to it more so than the p15x series now. It better turn out great if not I missed out on the $35 4810mq option in vain. -
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It's all well and good saying that but the amount of testing a development that ports like that require is crazy. A well designed internal solution is a solid prospect and the lack of optimus helps its chances.
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As for the above photo, I take it the regrets of choices for this machine are family related Or? *scratching head here* you know Marriage CAN be a beautiful thing if you don't rush into it, give a relationship a few years and you'll get to know someone way better than learning about them the hard way. Hope that helps if anything, but yeah If it takes us off the horse then by all means lets continue!
ahh today's youth~
About to head into work but since I'm overseas gonna make it a habit to contact a few vendors out in the neighboring countries and see what info I can grab. Gonna see if I can have one of our TW associates call Clevo, granted they're at liberty to say w/e or withold but still wouldn't hurt for a lil bit of info.
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so ive been tracking offers for clevo 300w and 330w psus on amazon for quite a while (just in case
) and one of those offers is from schenker for a 330w model. interestingly, the whole time ive been watching it, it was almost out of stock with just a few units left. makes sense if u consider that all units its compatible with are not really that up to date anymore. now suddenly, theyre in full stock again though! i woooonder what machine that might be for....
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Does anyone know of a converter/adapter for the DELL PA-9E PSU which will fit this model?
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edit: nevermind, mixed it up with a different connector
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Pre orders are up @ scan uk 3xs 1521 model. I ordered 4790S/980M/16GB RAM/IPS display/No HDD & OS + 30day Dead Pixel Guarantee
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nice, about time!!!! schenker, where are youuuuuuu.......???? *echo echo echo*
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as i had troubles with their homepage here is a link:
15.6" gaming laptop with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M or 980M - 3XS
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Scan also have 17inch model for pre order, but it's not IPS display. 15inch version clearly said it's IPS.
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yeah thats the culprit with the 17 inchers, no high-res and even IPS or high-color gamut will be very hard to come by...
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but....but....but i dont have my preorder placed yet!!!
aaaaalright alright, ill start it off tomorrow or friday at the latest, promisekeep your eyes out for it in the owner´s lounge section
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Borrowed a friends P-150EM w/ the 95% Gamut screen, and dear god I think that if I do get this machine it will be when I can 100% find a 95% or close enough, since the vivid/richness on this display is amazing... It's almost identical to my desktop monitors at home!
Glad to hear things are up and looking forward to what Jay has to put out.
Clevo P751ZM 15.6" Barebone Laptop With 970M + 7265AC + 95% Dot Free
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nah, must be a typo. typically, these first preorder configurators always include some errors, so lets wait and see how it turns out
cant imagine it having optimus! just wouldnt make sense...
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How significant is the CPU boost compared to that of the p650? Also, how much thicker is?
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While we're on the subject can anyone tell me how next years CPU's as well as the Sager's they'll release in 2016 will compare to this? I definitely want to know if I should wait or not. Having this type of info would DEFINITELY help my money decisions
mmmm hmmm #knowut'm'sayin
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LOL. Optimus prime, where optimus gets up and leaves and you have a perfect machine XD.
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The real improvement in my mind however is that the 4790k has the TDP to actually support those kind of clocks for more than a burst. Mobile processors tend to be TDP capped to some degree when you're running all 4 cores at the same time. Take Prime95 for example...I'm unable to keep my 4710 at 3.3GHz while all 4 cores are stressed in Prime95 (just an example...I also can't keep them maxed when I'm modeling in my statistical packages either). My 5820k however will maintain boost clocks during both scenarios.
You might never run into this problem, but it depends on what you do with your machine. I run 3-4 monitors off of my P650se, and if I'm gaming on one display, I don't have enough processing power (read, TDP) left in the tank to have netflix open on another monitor without it affecting my FPS, whereas I can do this all day long on my 5820k, or my old 3770k.
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Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Fluffy_Raptor, Nov 4, 2014.