Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

if this soldered component strategy continues, then it might very well be that the only socketable option in a laptop form factor is a desktop cpu (as with the ZM series)

for sale or pre-ordering?

 

Pre-order but you might as well call it for sale.. They're already taking the money before delivering the product which really pisses me off... I'm probably going to buy from mySN or PC Specialist now because their warranties are better and longer...

 

Over the last two years there have been a lot of rumors that Broadwell mobile would be BGA only. I suspect that this transition will make the P150 series largely irrelevant in favor of the P65x lineup. Broadwell-h (37w and 47w mobile) has had zero information released on a socket option--BGA only.

If Clevo wants to make a consumer device that has replaceable components like their customers demand, and have it be a good replacement for the P150 series that will have to go away, the P75xZ series is the only real option. Considering that Broadwell desktop quads (5770k) will only be 65w too, it stands to reason that the T version and S version (read: 5770T and 5770S) could even be sub ~45w and ~55w. Broadwell processors could be the ones Clevo really had in mind with the P7ZM line of machines, and could be extremely cool early next year.

 

yup yup, looking forward to what broadwell is gonna bring to the table so nice to be able to cover two cpu gens with one laptop

 

Our HQ is in Ottawa, Canada but we have a satellite shipping office in New York to provide cheaper and easier shipping for our US customers.

Our following models currently have a Swedish keyboard option; Eurocom M5 Pro, Panther 5 + 5SE, X5, X7, and X8.

 

Do you have a direct service center in NY though?

 

It's strictly a shipping office.

 

thx for the headsup eurocom, much appreciated

 

I assume it is a TN panel and not IPS panel.

 

That is sad, unfortunately. The P75x is a more powerful machine but at the cost of mobility due to a bigger PSU and would have higher temperatures than the P15x.

I was hoping to see a future model of P15x where they would implement at least an IPS display along with improvements in build quality and cooling. Hopefully it is not discontinued.

 

The cooling is strictly better, by editing the TDP you could have the CPU stay a bit slower and be cooler than the P1xx series.

 

I would argue that the P75x will have substantially lower temperatures, if that's your end goal. Don't get the 4790k, but the 4790T...45w desktop processor that will perform within the limits of a mobile 45w TDP. Remember, current mobile i7 processors in the P15x are all 45w (unless you have a 4702, or something else at 35w). You could also modify the 4790's multiplier and TDP to get similar results (if you're comfortable with that.) A machine designed with 88w+ processors in mind, but you put a 45w chip in there? I would bet it could be passively cooled up to 20-30% utilization, and even at full utilization, the fans would be certainly quieter than with an 88w chip. The cooling really does look phenomenal to me.

Judging by its similar build and weight, more advanced features, thinner form factor, IPS displays and better cooling, P15x users should be thrilled. If you use a 4790T or even 4790S, and a GTX970m, you can probably get away with the same 180w power adapter the P15x series used too. I would only see it as a downgrade if you used the optical drive / hot swap HDD frequently and relied on Optimus, but honestly...the P150 series wasn't known for stellar battery life anyway.

 

Get the 4790k and adjust the TDP levels yourself, all the silicon follows the same frequency vs voltage curve so why get a limited chip?

 

Given the 7 heatpipes, it would definitely be better!

Well, it does seem to be a winning situation since we no longer have to depend on mobile CPUs which are more costly and has a high chance of being soldered. I am just hoping it could be as light as the average notebooks, say around 2.5kg or less than 3kg? The estimated 3.4kg weight for P751ZM is about close to the weight of my MSI GT780DXR. If the 230W power brick is the same as MSI GT72's power brick, then it's good because it's the same weight as my 180W power brick. No optimus would be great, I still prefer a MUX if it's available.

Would it be risky to adjust the TDP levels? I'm inexperienced in this, haha.

Well, you guys managed to convince me into this, now I'm eyeing on it

 

It's not risky to adjust TDP yourself, but if you're not familiar with it, or don't feel comfortable with it for whatever reason you can buy a "limited" chip. A lot of people I'm sure will pop for the 4790s from Scan or Sager even though its more expensive than the 4790 vanilla, just because it's already pre-configured and easy to use. (Not something I would do, but for those who aren't inclined to learn how to lower the TDP)

It's also been very easy to purchase the "limited" chips for much cheaper, even without going second hand. While they were the same official price from Intel, I bought a new i7 3770T a few years back for $120 less than the normal 3770. I ran it fanless in a HTPC box, so I was okay with it being gimped, as it would never see anything else. Why pay much more for a 3770k when a 3770T was cheaper? It's especially true if you're going to do it on a budget build and are considering second hand parts...the T and S models are typically much less expensive second hand than the enthusiast K model.

You should especially price it out if you're buying directly from a builder like blue mobility who charges 18% more for the K compared to the S...and the S is 10% more than the vanilla 4790, which seems silly to me.

 

It's not risky to mess with TDP, especially if you're adjusting down instead of up. It literally takes a few presses of the mouse button in XTU and you're done. Yes depending on how in-depth you want your understanding to be there will be tons of reading to do, but you end up knowing a lot more and feel more confident about manually tuning your chip so why not.

 

Well, it will be a first time for me once I own this rig. The last time I attempted overclocking was on my 1st quad core machine, the Q6600. That was about 6-7 years ago?

Still, I'm willing to learn since going for a 'limited' chip is just more convenient, might as well just go for a capable performer but learn to tame it

Regarding price, I'm not sure if it's easy to bargain with custom resellers. I'd love to try but for my case, there is only 1 custom reseller, there's not much of a choice =x

Well, if it isn't too risky, I'll just pick up the 'trade' and put it into good use. Underclocking is after all, less dangerous than overclocking. I don't intend to mess with the voltage, so I believe that's ok right? Just adjust the multiplier would be fine I guess.

 

Looks like I have more than enough to pick up the ZM after tax month... (I had some insane hospital bills that insurance and I fought for weeks; 4 days in ICU). What a fun season for me~

That 4790K shall be fine tuned in my desktop til then.

 

This laptop has me very intrigued. How do you guys think the sound will be compared to MSI offerings? I am highly considering a new laptop in the next few months and hearing this laptop will also work with Broadwell release makes it even more attractive. I don't support the way laptops are going with socketed mobile, so Clevo is rapidly becoming more attractive.

 

Power power available to it than the GT60 will give it an advantage in the overclocking arena.

 

Interesting turn of events. However i think the most important part is still the display. CPU wise most of us won't really notice a difference. For instance the laptop I have at work has low power Haswell dual core CPU. I really can't feel that at anytime it lagged me behind. Still, I would love to have a laptop with a desktop CPU that weighted under 4 kg / 9 pounds.

 

For me, I am constantly forcing excel sheets to reload data every 15 seconds to repopulate information (more than 10 tabs featuring graphs, 200+ datapoints per tab) on multiple production lines while looking at CAD drawings, managing a database, ect. I like very snappy performance and tend to see slowdowns being a great pain. The workstation laptop I am provided barely handles two tabs before if freezes. The P150EM takes about 3 minutes to load the first two excels.

My desktop at home loads the same data in a minute using the i5-4670K...

You can see the trend if I slap the 4790K in there.

 

@LoneSyndal you are more of an exception.

 

exception number two right here! also handling 40-50 excel sheets at once with thousands upon thousands of data points each while having to do non-linear regressional fitting of enzyme kinetic curves on a daily basis!

btw blacky, mysn is gonna offer 3K/4K displays in matte

 

Wait till you see me. As far as I'm concerned, when streaming, if my CPU is under 80% workload i'm not compressing enough. XD

 

They only have 15 inch 3k and 4k. I need 17 inch.

I know what you mean in regards of CPU power. My VMs would also love more CPU power. But when it comes down to it. I am aware that I can manage just fine with my 940xm . but for most people and games as well. Even a haswell dual core is fine.
What I am trying to say is that the market for laptops with extreme performance is very small and most of us interested in it, you can find on this forum.

Hence why there is no strong focus on laptops with desktop CPUs. Apart from Clevo, I don't think there is any other. Company manking them and the market is probably not big enough for 2 anyway.

But when it comes to screen real estate, a lot more people would benefit from it.

 

I just wanna play Planetside 2 without being cpu-bound for once

 

Great!

Manufacturers? Models?

 

no info given yet, since the preorder page doesnt officially exist yet check the batcave for updates, ill make sure to post there once anything comes up

 

Hi folks good news,
My local reseller in Poland - BLUEMOBILITY ( www.bluemobility.pl) released photos of NEW king of performance CLEVO P771ZM:



Check this out: P771ZM PREORDER - BLUEMOBILITY.pl
You can also place PREORDER and see full specification of this model, differences to the model P751ZM are very simple: instead of a LTE/3G internal modem new P771ZM has powerful subwoofer on the bottom.

 

Try in a few years. Maybe when the i7-9980HQ is out and it's 12 cores 24 threads at 4GHz stock and the IPC is ~2x as good as haswell, you won't be CPU limited in Planetside 2 =D

 

ah crap, that means the 15 inch version does not have a subwoofer, too bad!

 

That's right P751ZM doesn't have subwoofer, instead of it has posibility to put inside LTE/4G or 3G internal modem. This big brother P771ZM is awesome ! This is my next laptop for sure

 

well thats the very first downside i can see in the P751ZM....which is actually a good thing plus, a high-res screen is more important to me than a sub, so its all good

 

Does anyone have information on how many 9mm drives and 7mm drives you can put in the P771ZM? I was thinking of using a single 1tb samsung 850 and 3x 2TB 9mm drives.

 

17 version support 1xM.2 and 2xHDD(9mm)

 

big spin -> P771ZM has 2x M.2 ports and 2x HDD (9mm and 7mmm) SATAIII ports.

 

Even more reason to get the 17" version.. Now if there is an IPS Screen option...

 

I dont think I've ever exceeded 3TB. So the 15.6 still wins in size and screen for now. Wonder if 17" will ever get higher res displays.

 

Full Specification CLEVO P771ZM:

 

Despite all the attractiveness of this rig, what would the cost be like?

Will it be sub-2200USD? I have a budget and am afraid it's going to exceed that.

Planning on a 4790K and GTX980M.

When I got the time I'll visit the link and configure if I can.

 

how exactly would anyone be able to answer this if the machine is barely on preorder? try and make your own conclusions and check out the available preorder sites instead of just leaning back and expecting others to do the work for you no offense, just sometimes i get the feeling that people use nbr as a kind of yahoo answers thing, driving buy, shooting impossible questions and expecting an exact answer right away without thinking of the actual circumstances...

 

Gah, was expecting at least 3 HDD bays :/

 

u have four

 

I believe he was talking about the HDD bays exclusively not the mSata slots. The 3rd bay we lost is what used to be the optical drive slot that no longer exists unfortunately.

I was hoping for a 3rd HDD bay too

 

i know silly, i was just being cocky also, no msata bays, but rather m.2, big difference

 

Apologies my bad didn't even notice what I wrote

Anyway 3rd HDD bay or not at the moment that P771ZM is the front runner as far as I'm concerned. Unless the GT80 comes up with something big or Alienware make a huge U-turn from the predictions we are expecting then my next laptop is going to be a Clevo

 

lil OT: concerning those alienware predictions, ive just heard theyre going all soldered all of a sudden? did i hear wrong? i sure hope so...

 

It comes from a few benchmarks on future mark's orb showing HQ processors. Must be pressure from intel to go that way.

 

and to even think i was considering going alienware this time around... this info makes the wait for the batman ever more bearable