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    Any information on the new Clevo P7x0ZM?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Fluffy_Raptor, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. flamy

    flamy Notebook Consultant

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    Ah, thanks. More stuff to google para mi.

    I hope Prema comes through with an unlocked BIOS for the Bat.
     
  2. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Appreciate it, so in a way the IGP/CPU can bottleneck the dGPU further when outputting to an external display or is it only the hz that's locked in? I've seen many complaints and I know it was a main factoring issue w/ the P150EM's.


    Also OT your avatar, I used to think for the longest it was some 3D render of plankton from spongebob w/ a top hat, then later realized it was a Chip w/ a top hat, but the more I see it the more I really want to know what the heck it is, its a well placed shot for one xD

    It's cute nonetheless, in fact I think I'll draw it when I get home :D
     
  3. SegaDE

    SegaDE Notebook Guru

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    i think its a sword
     
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    WT*? It's NOT a sword?
     
  5. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you! :D Did not go further down before hitting reply ;)

    Edit: And it is right?
     
  6. SegaDE

    SegaDE Notebook Guru

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    exactly its a sword from transistor (game)
     
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    Yeah, it's from Transistor.
     
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    since there is no optimus.. will there there an button to turn off dGPU without going into the bios and use 4790Ks integrated one ?
     
  9. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Ok now I have to go back and stare at it, then google it, I"m going to draw my character wielding it now <3 thanks for that though now the magic and mystery behind it is gone too.
     
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  10. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Care to publish your entire Meaker Diagram™ collection so we can all collectively benefit? :D
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The epic paint diagrams would overload the internet ;)

    The no MUX implementation means that the IGP controls all the displays so you are bound by its ability to control them and output anything.

    There is also some latency added by having it send off the render, get it back and then display it but that is really only going to hit VR.

    As for the avatar:

    [​IMG]
     
  12. LunaP

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    Thanks thought the thought of a transistor chip w/ a top hat was kinda cute too lol.
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The totalbiscuit transistor :)
     
  14. LunaP

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    ok totally drawing it now LOL twitch = xlunap
     
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    Post that when you are finnished!!
     
  16. joker105

    joker105 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi does anyone know if the P751 is compatible with the quadro cards? just the lower end ones. Will already start saving up for this.

    Does anyone else know also why the 17 inch models don't yet offer QFHD displays? it just makes more sense to me to pack those pixels in a slightly larger form factor. But nonetheless, I'd be happy with this one, most definitely.
     
  17. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I wonder if the heatsink will play well with a delidded chip. Bare die mount + Liquid Ultra should help to push 4790K to near desktop levels hopefully.
     
  18. LunaP

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    Sort of a rush in a way, I'll be more detailed/thorough next time, was back and forth w/ finals .3. but still had fun doing it xD

    [​IMG]
     
  19. flamy

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    That's awesome, Luna!
     
  20. LunaP

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    Thanks I'll redo it sometime next week probably, and this time pay attention to detail more, coloring over a draft doesn't always bode well but either way lol, was still fun. I can definitely do this wayyyyy better, and Meaker def deserves to look more intense/lined out etc (insert explicitly deleted yet awesome words here) :D However since its past midnight I need to sleep since I have work in the morning .3. course I could always redraw/touch it up from my bed since I have my trusty CintiQ companion <3
     
  21. jaybee83

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    @Meaker for the paint diagrams

    @flamy for the "light loads" on the can

    @lunap for the thought on the plankton from spongebob (thats what i was thinking until this MOMENT!) and the awesome pimped up avatar holding a P751ZM (add some bat-ears to that in your redraw ;))

    THANKS for making my day! just rofled my butt off here :D :D :D now i can properly start work for today ;)
     
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    I gave you a follow, therefore I expect moar art streams. On your P751ZM too XD.
     
  23. IceBounds

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    Im thinking about buying the 770ZM when it comes out, but i have a some questions. thoughts and predicts are welcome :)

    * Is it the same keyboard on the 770ZM as in P170em?

    * How much will the 240v take me?

    * how thick is it really? compared to the 170em again^^

    Thanks for your help, regards Niclas
     
  24. jaybee83

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    all speculation at this point, since thus far we only have some real data on the 15 inch model. but here are some thoughts from my side:

    its usually the case that the 17 and 15 inch model of a clevo series share the same type of keyboard. since the p751zm is using a new kind of keyboard that hasnt been used in any other clevo model before its safe to assume that the p771zm will use the same kind, thus wont be identical to the em series

    i assume u mean the 240w psu? at stock it should be fine and even allow u to max out ur gpu, but not in combination with a cpu oc, that will require a 300W+ psu

    the p750zm is 36 mm thick, thus the p770zm should be a bit thicker due to the thicker display, for example. i would be guessing around 40mm, which is a bit thinner than the p170em

    cheers!
     
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    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Wow...Yesterday I brought Kingston HyperX Impact 2133Mhz 16GB kit from Amazon for £108 and today they increases it back to £132.
     
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    haha now thats lucky! :)

    so sad that i have an 850 pro 1tb and 2x8gb corsair vengeance 2133 lying around here without them being used, ugh...
     
  27. LunaP

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    So BlueMobility rseponded to me and my invitation to here, ofc bigspin had already answered my question prior but nice to know they'll be joining NBR soon.

     
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    =O I WANT EET. I want so many upgrades haha
     
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    £108 for 2133 16gb kit is very good deal. They usually going for £130+
     
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    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    I just put couple of SSD to my Amazon wish list, if they reduce price during the black friday/cyber monday period, I'll buy one immediately
     
  31. dellienware owner

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    I may wait for the 17 inch version.
     
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    Ah yeah, I'll be getting more active once this weeks over, since I'll have 1 less class to worry about, the offline photo that shows is part of a larger project I was working on for a guild I was in , though since I couldn't fit everyone in the photo, I cut it down to only the current guild members and left out those not in the guild, the originally has quite a few people lol. Still a WIP, as are many of my larger projects .3.

    I'll put the P751ZM on Twitch when I get it for some real time views, though be sure to have a good connection since I tend to stream around 3.5-5k when attempting to pump raw quality out.


    Hmm tempting, how does this one fair vs the 850 pro? Was thinking of putting a 1TB 850 Pro in mine for the OS drive, however I'm all ears(eyes)
     
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    4k speed is almost identical. Sequential speed is massive improvement.
     
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    It's a very similar controller just the straight line speed is uncapped.
     
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    Interesting, BM has the P651SG w/ 980 fora slightly higher price than the p751zm, I wonder if its a pre²order lowered price and will jump afterwards like the p35x did? Here's hoping something shows up else where in the next week! I"m getting ready to throw some money!

    Also fired off an email asking for information on the display panel they're using for the 1080p since we already have the info for the sharp/samsung 4k's
     
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    I think P65x costs more to made due to 4 different sku's. For example 980/4870, 980/4710,970/4870,970/4710

    P75x you only need one SKU and desktop cpu cost less than mobile parts
     
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    Mobile parts are simply more expensive. That's the idea behind this model.
     
  39. flamy

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    Yea, I was wondering about the screen also. I just assumed it is the default matte.
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    True, makes sense..

    Ok so I just configured mine, and I really do like the fact I can remove items vs get stuck with the bare minimum.

    Here's my config so far

    BM P751ZM Gaming - PREORDER ! [ ! ]

    - Screen : Screen 15.6 "Full HD 1920 x 1080 LED , Matte
    - Procesor : Intel Core i7-4790K Desktop 4 x 4.0GHz , 8MB Cache , 88W
    - Keyboard : Illiminated Keyboard Z Series P - Układ US , Full Color LED

    - Pamięć RAM: No Mem ( will buy the 32gb pack from G.Skill 11-11-11 JEDEC 2133)

    - Disk Drive : None ( Debating on adding an 840/850 for games / other storage)
    - Disk Drive 2 : None ( Will purchase a 1TB Sata III 7200 separately or with the vender )
    - M.2 Port # 1: None <s>( They don't offer the XP941 so may buy it separately and use it as the Primary OS drive</s> Just read n=1's review so revising.. )
    - M.2 Port # 2 : None
    - M.2 Port # 3 / 3G / 4G LTE : None

    - GPU : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8GB GDDR5 Video RAM - NOW AVAILABLE !
    - Wireless Network WiFi : Intel Dual - Band Wireless AC 7265 ( 2 * 2 802.11 / c ) M.2 WLAN + Bluetooth

    -- AC Power : 330W Premium AC [ P751ZM ] ( Because why not?)

    - Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit OEM ENG ( since I'm going 1080p I see 0 reason for 8.1 however will wait for 10)

    - Configuration Diagnostics : Diagnostics configuration and optimization of the cooling system (FREE !)
    - Thermal Grease : Improve the cooling system and CPU GPU (FREE !)
    - Packed Warranty : Standard Package - Door to Door 24 months
    - Laptop Insurance : Accidental damage - 36 months , the World - (13 % of the laptop cost)


    Total
    8429.00 PL = 2484.09 USD

    That gives me another grand to play with. So I can buy my memory and SSD's and possibly spend a lil more.



    And just saw this after posting mine so revising lol... should I just hold off entirely on m2's for now?

    What would you guys suggest? I def want 1 normal HDD ( 1TB ) for storage purposes.
     
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    Agreed, I just post that link to the people who like to beta test but don't want to spend extra £££
     
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    Yea, I am still debating the RAM bit. I'm having to do some googling. XoticPC got back to me saying above 1600 might cause instabilities and blue-screens, and they don't offer it. So, this will be aftermarket. Dunno how it affects warranty.

    Then, I was reading this AnandTech - AnandTech | Memory Scaling on Haswell CPU, IGP and dGPU: DDR3-1333 to DDR3-3000 Tested with G.Skill - and they say avoid 1600 and below for Haswell.

    EDIT: Found another article saying the same thing (don't go below 1600 for Haswell): http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/march/haswellrealworld

    I'm confused :eek:

    What got you away from 3K/4K?
     
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    yep, i for one love the possibility to upgrade to M.2 ssds later on, but ill wait until there are models out that truly use the whole bandwidth of this connection, e.g. 1.8 GB/s sequential speeds, preferable coupled with 4K speeds that exceed SATAIII specifications :D
     
  45. LunaP

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    Never wanted 4k, but simply the lack of no option for 3k currently. Also I have a few 15" notebooks here w/ 1080p so going to download some of Cakefish's desktop screenshots and set them as my desktop background to get an idea of what I'd be looking at. I think the p751zm would be able to handle the 3k slightly better than its brethren.

    Still to early to tell though and I can always purchase the screen separately. 3k is more of a want vs a need, however my perception may change after lol... going to Fry's today to look around for some 3k displays.


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    AND I"M BACK....

    Holy crap SPLAT BATMAN do 4k displays look amazing on the 15" D: !!!

    I almost bought the y50 just purely for the glossy screen and all. I was unable to set 2560x1440 oddly the screen zigged out, but it does 2048x1152 oddly.

    Given how things adjust easily I can easily see why people vouch on these screens. Now I absolutely MUST find a Glossy panel for the ZM
     
  46. flamy

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    ^ lol, I had a feeling that would happen. I'll prolly get around to Fry's this weekend also.

    I, myself prefer Matte screens.

    Although, with all your monitors, do you still need a replacement screen? :)
     
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    Doesn't the Y50 have a really bad screen? Imagine if she found a good one on a P751ZM
     
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    Np9377 or 17 inch version of the p7?
     
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    A P377SM-A will tear the P751ZM into tiny shreds due to dual GPUs, especially if you get a 4910MQ and OC it or a 4930MX and OC it.
     
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    True! I could rig up something like this [​IMG] + the WSGF stand and attack my monitors so I could play while walking, then get a solar powered panel for my back and wear one on a hat to charge them when I'm not at home.



    Or get a battery big enough to power them lol

    [​IMG] :D


    The 4k Gloss version looked beautiful to me an the wide color spectrum was insane <3, if there is better I'll probably lose my balance in the store...

    Has it been confirmed that the 17" variant won't have SLI? Also how does the 4910/4930 compare to the 4970k?
     
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