Ask the Resellers! Questions to Reseller Thread.

Maybe they just like being here. This is where I'll be all summer when I'm not tapping my keyboard at various games and blender.

Oh, you're making a 9150/30 FAQ? Good, I found the HM one to be quite useful, +rep.

 

I'm interested in a P170EM and doing my homework but can't PM yet.

What are the brand and model numbers of the screens available; standard glossy, matte gamut and glossy gamut? Do all resellers offer the same screens or are there differences? I looked at configurators and some info was available but not every screen. Thanks.

 

I'm interested in the NP9130/P151EM1 or NP9150/P151EM1, but I would kind of like a backlit keyboard (such as the NP9150/P150EM). That said, I find that for an NP9150 configured with exactly the same hardware as a NP9130 (minus the keyboard), the price is significantly higher (~$150 dollar increase, from multiple resellers).

Does the keyboard really cost so much, or is there another difference between the two models I'm missing?

Also, is it at all possible to put a backlit keyboard into the NP9130?

Thanks!

 

No, it isn't possible to put the backlit keyboard into the NP9130.

And the other difference is the power supply, the NP9150 has a 180W PSU, whereas the NP9130 has a 120W PSU.

(And the price difference between the models is actually ~$180, at least on XoticPC. If that is where you checked the prices, you probably didn't change the NP9150 to Matte to match the monitor of the NP9130, which was a mistake I did too. )

 

For P170EM yeah there are 3 different screens. There probably aren't any resellers that offer any other screens than those, Mythlogic might by special request but don't count on it.

Lighted display?
No you can't put a backlit keyboard in the 9130. The 9150 has a bigger PSU that will support GPU upgrades. I know that last gen it had a rubberized surface, not sure if that's still there.

 

Yeah, I missed that display switch.

Can you think of any reason to really recommend the larger power supply in the NP9150? Or do I just suck it up and go with the poor man's dark keyboard?

*Edit* This came up while I didn't notice:

Turns out the power supply allows for upgrading the GPU.

 

The larger PSU is necessary only if you want a more powerful GPU, which is important in the NP9150 model because it has some GPU upgrade options for sale (besides the backlit keyboard which will use some more energy too).

The NP9130 doesn't need it since it only comes with the GTX 670M GPU (and has no backlit keyboard)... Unless you do intend to upgrade its GPU in the future, in which case you will have to buy the larger PSU besides the new GPU to make the upgrade.

 

Yes, the configurators of the resellers list 2 or 3 screen choices. But for the most part they don't say what they are; brand - model.

17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) Super Clear Glossy LED-Backlit Display Standard
17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) 72% NTSC Color Gamut Matte LED-Backlit Display
17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) 90% NTSC Color Gamut Glossy LED-Backlit Display

US resellers from the Clevo Guide

Powernotebooks lists this (AU OB173HW01 V5) for the 72% Matte, nothing for the other two screens.

Mythlogic lists AUO B173HW01 V.4 for the 90% Glossy, under more info, nothing for the other screens.

LPC-Digital Lists two screens, no matte, and lists AUO B173HW01 V.4 for the 90% Glossy.

Xotic has a SKU at the end for each screen. A quick google search for the 90% Glossy sku didn't yield much info.

Malibal lists Chimei N173HGE-L11 for 72% Matte and AUO B173HW01 V.4 for 90% Glossy

It appears that the 90% Glossy may be the same? But different 72% Matte Screens from what I have seen so far.

 

For any of the resellers who might know the answer:

When can we expect to see the Ivy Bridge dual core processors announced today in machines? In particular, the W110ER??

 

The Chimei N173HGE-L11 is NOT a 72% Matte screen

The Chimei is the standard screen (about 60% NTSC and a little grainy) on the MSI G70, GT780 & GT783 and ASUS ASUS G75VW models.

72% NTSC Color Gamut Matte LCD (AU OB173HW01 V5) is what you want.

 

Thanks for the quick reply and clarification on the Matte screen.

Powernotebooks carries the same 90% Glossy AUO B173HW01 V.4?

This will be a DTR so, I am leaning towards glossy (dark room most of the time).

 

That is correct, we do carry the 90% Glossy AUO (B173HW01 V4).

Glossy should be fine in a dark room as you won't have any bright lights in there to glare off the screen.

 

Ditto! I'm also really curious about this, for both the W110ER and the 150ER... I assume they'd both be available with ivy bridge dual cores around the same time. My friend and I are both buying new laptops, but going by some threads on this forum the new quad cores seems to have significantly higher power usage over the sandy bridge dual cores, so I'm hoping waiting for ivy bridge dual cores could lead to a best of both worlds scenario.

 

You won't have to wait long. I expect them to start shipping in June.

 

Can any reseller make a test installing the Nvidia GTX 675m (and the 180W PSU too if necessary) in the P151EM1?

I'm really interested in having a confirmation of the compatibility. And that would give us an idea of the prospects of being able to do the same with the 680m too...

 

The on Ad date is Sunday, we'll be offering IVB Dual-cores Sunday

 

I got an email from mysn.de today. They wrote that earliest date to ship my notebooks are 14 june. Thats because Clevo HD7970M boards were indeed faulty and they are now waiting for new patch of cards.
I wonder, if anyone in EU has earlier date? Who could sell me the 7970M new card separately. I would ask money back from mysn.de, since i have waited more than 3 weeks already.
I know its not mysn.de fault, but this is just nuts... way too long to wait for prepaid notebook.

 

Please keep in mind that this is really out of the reseller's control and most, if not all of us, get our 7970M cards from the same Clevo facilities.

As Mythlogic had even stated in a previous post elsewhere, we simply do not have a button to press to make more 7970M cards appear, though we all wish we did.

The bright side to all of this, is that in the end, the consumer will be assuredly getting a reliable notebook with a stable and reliable graphics card.

What needs to be remembered here is you have to ask yourself, "would I prefer to have my notebook now, have the GPU fail and have to send it back for repairs only to have a risk of GPU failure again, or would I prefer to wait and get a proper GPU and a notebook without issues?"

 

Well some of us don't mind taking it out an doing the swap ourselves from a new batch

Just saying ^-^

 

Yes, i think he just misunderstood my point completely. I thought i CLEARLY said, that i would like to get new version of card not the faulty one.

 

Hey, Mythlogic offers all 3, not just the 90% glossy.

Would it also happen to be on the G73? Because the screen on my friend's G73JW didn't look at all grainy.

Already done, it works.

As in, tomorrow Sunday?

No, nobody will be getting any fixed cards any earlier, unless you find some wacko on fleabay willing to charge you a royalty for his 1st batch 7970m.

Nobody has the new version yet, that is what you're waiting for.

 

G73 came with a glossy screen. The G75VW is the first time they offered a standard matte screen (other than the 120Hz 3D screen) and it is the Chi Mei 60% matte screen with a slight grainy texture.

 

Somebody tested the 675M in the P151EM1 with a 180W PSU? That is great!

Can you show me who did (link, or post, or anything of the type)?

 

I believe Mythlogic did it early in the 7970m thread, but I can't find it now. However it does support the 180W PSU.

 

Hey, I know Mythlogic offers all 3 screens but they only list the model, the actual model, AUO B173HW01 V.4, for the 90% Glossy.

As I wrote:
"Mythlogic lists AUO B173HW01 V.4 for the 90% Glossy, under more info, nothing for the other screens."

They do not list the standard glossy screen (brand/model) or the 72% Matte. They are not alone as I showed what the other resellers actually listed at the time of my post.

 

Who is offering this screen on the P170EM:

AU OB173HW01 V5

 

I don't know if this would be the best place to ask, but I could not find a better spot. If this is placed incorrectly I apologize in advance.

I really want a 7970m (or even the 680m if available), but I only have a P170HM which if I understand correctly can't be upgraded in regards to the GPU.
The problem here is that I can't and don't want to spend a fortune on a new laptop. So I got an idea I hope will work, but I do have my doubts.

I already have a CPU, RAM, harddrives, wireless card, DVD etc etc which I could scavenge from my old laptop. Would it be possible to buy, let's say a P170EM, with a 7970m, but without everything else that I already have (CPU for example)?

If I would be so lucky that the old parts would be compatible, would it even be possible to find a reseller willing to sell a laptop without the parts I already have/don't need?

I know a few things would not be salvageable, like the monitor and mainboard, but I am willing to pay the price for that, as long as I could skip other items like the CPU and save a little. As I mentioned above I simply can't afford a completely new laptop.

I am just trying to save a bit here. Seeing as I haven't owned my P170HM for even a year, and when I bought it I had hopes on upgrading the GPU when the next generation came out, I am a bit saddened by the news regarding the HM series.

(And, would Enduro perhaps work with the 2720QM if this purchase would be possible?)

 

Mythlogic updates their website once a week, and those have been there for quite a while. If you're talking about what displays when you click "more info" it only shows the screen you have selected.

EDIT: Oh oh oh, I see what you're talking about. Yeah, it's strange that that's missing.

Mythlogic will do this for you. Shell replacement program
Looks like the P170EM shell will be $775, plus $125 for labor, the cost of shipping your parts to them, and whatever new parts you want (7970m). Optimus/Enduro will work. 7970m will probably be about $400. Actually the screen is interchangeable.

 

Awesome, thanks a lot for this information!
I will check with Mythology about this.

 

^^ You may also wish to check for a barebone system with the graphics card, if you are comfortable doing the swap of parts. R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder sells the barebone P170EM for $979 + $200 for the 7970M. +Shipping?

They're not on the board but their resellerraitings.com rating is excellent R and J TECH Reviews - rjtech.com Ratings at ResellerRatings

Great service by Mythlogic!
Perhaps other resellers do something similar. Seems worthy of a PM or e-mail.

 

Awesome, thanks a lot for finding all this and posting.
It do get quite expensive though. I wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper just to buy a new laptop and sell the old one if it fetches a good price. Let's see what reply I get from Malibal.

 

Please, can somebody from Mythlogic confirm this information that the P151EM1 works with the GTX 675M installed if it is powered by a 180W PSU (instead of the 120W PSU)?

 

Yea it works fine, just need the right PSU to make it all go.

 

Thank you very much!

 

Now I've 2 companies saying 2 different things...

Sager answered the e-mail I sent them asking about the compatibility of the 675M GPU + 180W PSU upgrade in the P151EM1 saying this:

Obs: Sager NP9130 = Clevo P151EM1

What should I do now?

 

you should buy sager9150 w:/ HD 7970M

 

I asked Sager to explain more about their statement that "The limitation is on the motherboard side", also mentioning that another Clevo retailer said that the upgrade can be done, and the answer I got was:

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I don't want to change to the P150EM, I would have to downgrade the i7-3720QM to the i7-3610QM, to make room in the budget, just so I can pay for a backlit keyboard (which I don't want), and a 180W brick, adding 60 Watts I don't need right now since I won't be able to get any GPU above the 670M with my current budget (not to mention the extra weight I'll have to carry around without necessity because of this huge brick).

While with an upgradable P151EM1, I can just buy the brick latter when I've the GPU who really needs it, and I wouldn't have paid for the backlit keyboard I don't want or have got an inferior CPU then I could get with my current budget...

 

This is my first post; I have finally joined after creeping this forum for the last several years.

I have a concern with the 7970m

Are the NP9170 Sager machines still having issues with shipping delays and driver issues of the 7970m?

Thanks

 

Hello Oil4Life (great name BTW!) Welcome to the forums!

I would be lying if I didn't say that Sager is still having issues with the current shipment of 7970s. The previous shipment is working well. So far the new shipment is expected to arrive on the 8th, this Friday, and is still on schedule.

Sager is one of the best companies for QC, so you can rest assured that it wont ship until it works.

 

Ok, now I've insisted with the Sager technical support, saying that their answer was too vague, asking for further explanation, and this is what I got:

Meaning they didn't even test it, and are just following Clevo's specifications...

So right now I'm going with Mythlogic's assessment on this issue, and believe it is compatible.

 

Shipping delays? The problem is resolved and we have a solid ETA, but the fixed cards are not yet in the hands of Sager or the resellers. Driver issues? Well, AMD hasn't really released official drivers for the 7970m yet.

I would definitely trust the people who actually tried it. Mythlogic's quality control is really good, though, so if you have them put it in for you and it makes it through their testing, it will work.

 

How is EU law about cancelling pre paid order, if im not happy with delivery date forwarding?

I know that in Estonia, the cancelling is not a problem. I dont know if that applies to Germany or entire Eurozone too.

 

If I place an order in the next five days for a P150EM with 7970M, when could I expect to receive the laptop? Backlogs being what they are, it looks like I may be in for a long wait.

Because I'm leaving my home country (Canada) for a month later this summer, I'd rather not have my system show up to an empty house and get returned to sender, hence my question.

 

It would be better to call or email us for an answer to this shipping question, and include exactly when you will be leaving.

We can then control it so that it does not show up to an empty house.

 

Can anyone please tell me who was the manufacturer(s) for the 3D Display in the 170HM ?

 

LG

LP173WF2-TLB1 is the model number

 

Are there any European resellers out there who have or will have the 7970m with the modded vbios for hm models?

 

I have a question for one.de!

I am interested in buying the following laptop: One Gaming Notebook M56-2O by: One - ONE Computer Shop

Do you ship to the Netherlands, and if so, at what costs? My German is as good as my Taiwanese; very bad. I wasn't really able to find it on your site.

 

any updates on the 680M?

 

We have not heard anything yet. We are estimating it should be between the middle of July and the end of summer.