BGA Venting Thread ;)

Those usually aren't from the sellers themselves, most of those promos are from NVidia and Intel directly. I'm pretty sure that particular one is an Intel promo

 

Yes, it is an Intel promo.

Why do they think that it is okay to brand U type processors with games tho? An U processor cannot do MS word correctly...

 

I fixed it for you THIS below... This Dell machine is acceptable for me and should do the job well for others too!! The only miserable with the deal is Windoze X Home edition. But you can find a very cheap Pro key on the web for much less than what the "laptop" costs. A big win win


BTW. Have you seen what Intel's price settings for the <high end> i7 U models? Lower power the more should you pay. Take a look what ODM's wants for the JOKEBOOKS with the most powerful i7-xxxx U models

 

My sister has a Surface Pro 4 that has an i7-6650U. Plays Portal and Civ at medium settings at 30-40 FPS. She works with massive Excel spreadsheets, too, and they literally fly.

 

For Papusan

 

You lack only Windoze X for perfection in your pict
And why pay more for the same?

 

Guess it depends on what we call an ok performance.

I had 4710HQ and I was not very satisfied with the way Excel and Word worked with it. Sometimes it would lag on the pages and scrolling would not be very smooth. Really uncomfortable.

 

There is quite a difference actually on that one.

While there are up sides and downsides to each approach people have been getting more and more hyperbolic.

 

When you want to squeeze the last few MHz from the CPU but you only own a normal AC instead of an AC bench.

 

Hey now. Not a good look, but I bet it works.

 

Like I said quite a few times, don't trash the technology, trash the cynical way that companies are implementing and/or marketing it!

And yes, I can finally feel the strain of my i7 2630QM. Sure, it's socketed, but it feels as good as a current BGA CPU. Then again, this laptop is 6 years old at least, maybe it's hinting at me to move on...

 

Or, you could defiantly wave your private parts in the air at the BGA lovers and breathe new life into that manly old beast for a fraction of the cost ($215, to be exact) of a castrated turdbook.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TESTED-Inte...-SR02F-2-7Ghz-8MB-Socket-G2-CPU-/232235716771

 

I did consider this option (which costs about 400 SGD after currency conversion), but felt that it will be better to just go for a newer computer/laptop at this point; its MXM slot allows me to go up to 680M only to begin with. Not helping that it is 5kg; I need a lighter laptop which can be fulfilled by either BGA or LGA due to the advances of technology all these years.

For now, I will stick with a 390 SGD computer (everything included but I decided to change the RAM to 2 x 8GB) that a LAN shop is selling; it is an i5-4460 paired with GTX 750. And then switch between both my laptop and this computer as and when I need to.

 

It would still be a great work computer with plenty of CPU power for a tiny fraction of the cost of a turdbook with nothing more than the CPU upgrade. It would hold its own in physics performance against most of the new panty-waist soldered garbage. It's amazing that your 560M is still kicking after all these years and the 680M would be a huge upgrade. But, get what you're saying. The point is, you can, but with a turdbook you can't... you're literally screwed.

Ok, well...

 

Thanks! Throughout these years it almost died but due to its socketed nature, I was able to maintain it to what it is today!

Sadly, the 560M still has issues with current drivers, which is one reason I need to switch over to the 390 dollar computer (see my thread on flickering over HDMI issue). Another reason is that Sandy Bridge CPUs are simply too weak for the game capture device (Avermedia Live Gamer Portable 2) that I am using; strange slowdowns are observed when used with my laptop but not with that computer.

 

My SP2 (4300U) does fantastic with anything productivity. Games run 'cinematic' at best though.

 

Now that I think about it, it is my fault for not being precise.

My productivity work means at least word, Excel, PPT and F2K running at the same time, 20+ chrome tabs and 2-3 other text editors / at least 7 windows file explorer windows.

Maybe my work is heavier than I would had expected and that is why even 4710 HQ might struggle, especially compared to 6700K. Windows 10 doesn't make thing better either...

 

That is a lot, I don't think I'd do that on a 10" screen even if it had the CPU horsepower.

 

That is another aspect of the problem. I can only use 17.3" or bigger because of this

 

@HTWingNut posted this in another thread, I need this in my life.

 

Given the smaller 25" I'm using at this moment, I would really love one of those as well...

 

I am unsure if I should go for a 1080P screen that is bigger than my 23 inch 1080P screen and live with it, or save up more and gun for a 1440P or even 4K screen

In short, I am unsure about the benefits of a bigger screen vs bigger resolution

 

Bigger resolution means there eis more content on screen.

You want the biggest resolution you are comfortable reading.

 

I'd say 1440P is good in the 23-27 range, above that I'd start looking at 3K or 4K

 

If I purchase a desktop, I'm going to buy the Dell U2515H. 25" 2560 × 1440 IPS monitor. If I can overclock it, I'll try to, hopefully I can bring it to 80 Hz.

 

You cannot really OC it.

This is the model I own at the moment.

Image is sharp and clean, colors are really awful ex-factory but it can be calibrated to look good.

refresh rate stays at 60 Hz, there's no much way around this.

 

OC'D Dell U2515H Post #1

 

It won't run faster.Did that and it accepts the profile, but starts disconnecting at random times and connecting again. Still won't run visibly better

 

Not all panels are 100% equal. Some are lucky while others... You know

 

Thanks! Hmm I am not sure if 1080P is good enough or not since I haven't experienced 1440P yet. I don't want to buy it and only to find out that I (or my computers) cannot handle it

Thanks! Let's see what the market sells...

 

If you're going to use the laptop in your signature, it should handle 1440P, but not sure how it would fit for gaming. The power needed is about 1.5-1.8X the power needed for FHD, so you can expect frame rates to drop by 30% to 45% depending on the game.

The idea is that you want a bigger resolution to physically fit more on the screen. Just having bigger monitor means that objects are bigger on it, there are not more objects.

 

The hit from 1080 to 1440p doesn't scale linearly like that though.

 

Depends on the game. Sometimes it is much less

Since I tested it over multiple games, Phantom Pain and Dota2 takes way less of a hit than other games, so it is safe to have in mind that a linear hit is the most that can happen.

 

I don't game but I am doing photo and video work

Looks like I need to think this through a bit more

 

Having a larger resolution means that more of the photo fits on the screen / the image is clearer.

For video, having a bigger resolution is heaven sent - anything under 1440P is really small or adobe AE, especially if you tend to reach the point where you have tons of layers and such.

About speed of work, it might work either way, not sure if the resolution requires anything more for video or photo work. That is because you're still working in the same resolution, the presenting resolution being larger doesn't mean much for the program. At least from my experience, between FHD and 1440P, I actually work faster in 1440P since I see more of the image, so yeah...

If you need excellent colors and such, be prepared to calibrate this display, it comes really bad out of the factory. Really bad.

 

For gaming, I think 1440p for a 560M could be enough to choke it. More pixels and more vRAM needed than I would expect the 560M to be able to manage effectively. You will also have to grow used to the 1440p screen and may not like it. I know it is not as popular and it used to be, but I still think 1080p is the ideal resolution for most things. Scaling at 100% is flawless. I like the 1440p screen for things other than gaming. Thinks like using Excel and seeing more columns and rows, or viewing two Word documents in side-by-side mode is a whole lot better.

 

The iris pro series turns out not to be bad in a pinch.

 

Seems to me that overclocking IPS panels is generally not as successful an endeavor as TN. If you want a high refresh rate, buying a display with a natively high refresh rate is the best way to get there. Buying a low 60Hz panel with the idea of overclocking it to a nice refresh rate is not a good idea unless you enjoy being disappointed.

 

I wouldn't say that's always true. The panel MSI uses in their 18.4" models overclocks quite well. Mine would hit 110-115Hz easily, and I think basically everybody could hit at least 100.

 

I really miss the flush bezel of the Alienware m18s. It looked so beautiful. Anyway... I'm going off topic... back with the turd venting

 

It's never wrong to declare the beauty of the edge-to-edge Gorilla Glass display. That was amazing. It still is amazing. Even today, every laptop Dell uses that design on looks fantastic, even if the rest of the machine is a worthless pile of crap. I have never been the same since then. I hate the look of all laptop bezels and probably always will. It's also another spot to collect dust and crap and makes cleaning more difficult. Some of the talking heads used to complain about the mirror finish, but both of my personal laptops and my work laptop have matte finish displays and they are aesthetically inferior to the glossy display. I like not seeing a reflection, but the image looks much better through a shiny glass covering than it does with a non-glare finish.

That's why I said "generally" instead of carte blanche never. There are always exceptions, but so far I haven't found any of my own IPS panels to be overclock friendly. The most I have ever been able to get from one is about 20-25Hz extra and some not even 5Hz.

 

Totally agreed!

To put it in simple math and engineering: The IPS matrix does not move as fast as needed for OC to make more sense.

This is tricky to explain, but basically, even if the computer sends data faster, the display itself doesn't respond fast enough and won't change shades fast enough. This can be measured and the explanation is simple - TN is the way to got for refresh rates and IPS for colors (in general).

 

Exactly my friend. +rep

Here we go brothers

The beginning...


Second...
Where can yooo find 7850hkBGA ? Haven't seen Intel have pushed out new unlocked BGA
How about 897cb in Cinebench R15 with 6700K running 4.0GHz.
Only 2 points lower than this thrilling *amazing* unlocked 7820 BGA Turd clocked higher 4.3GHz but wimpy 899cb



I went back to take a second look of the test of this new *amazing* unlocked BGA trash. As expected... Fully throttling!! And the reviewer from Notebookcheck say it's still impressive. What? I don't get it. @Mr. Fox +++ do you think this is impressive?
How in hell can this reviewer say... As mentioned in the section Software, the Core i7-7820HK works at 4.3 GHz in the Turbo Gear Extreme setting? When the result is the opposite?


YEEES. Intel's old software is intended for their BGA. And all BGA lovers welcomes with both hands Pretty? Vote with your wallets!!


BTW All unlocked BGA running @4.3GHz throttle. See Notebookcheck database for the Trash!!

 

Why only 900 in Cinebench tho? I mean, either it throttles during the test, or?...

Wondering what are the temps during this load?

 

Please re-read my previous informative post one more time my friend A beginning below

 

That's why I said "generally" instead of carte blanche never. There are always exceptions, but so far I haven't found any of my own IPS panels to be overclock friendly. The most I have ever been able to get from one is about 20-25Hz extra and some not even

That is pretty pathetic, really. How is bouncing between 4.3 and 3.8GHz supposed to be impressive?

 

They can throttle without reducing frequency. Hard to describe. I've seen it while OCing my 5820K. The cores would report 4.5 GHz but CPU workload was at 80%. Something to do with keeping high clocks but reducing the number of instructions in order to keep temps down.

 

Gaming 17.3'' ROG GL753VD, FHD, Procesor Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ (6M Cache, up to 3.80 GHz), 32GB DDR4, 1TB + 128GB SSD, GeForce GTX 1050 4GB, Win 10 Home - 1500$

1050 at this price tho... I mean... 1500$ for an 1050 GPU 1080 is about 2200$ for P775. I mean, man...

32 GB of RAM is okay - good actually. I don't have more, but I would need a bit more. Still okay.

128 GB of SSD and a bit hard to change is troublesome, don't know, at 1500$ is a bit too little and I would need more.

 

See WHY proper INFO is importent OP @FredSRichardson
It should have been much more of similar threads like this one. Throughout the whole internet. In all corners of the world. Proper Info means that the sales of garbage will decrease!!