BGA Venting Thread ;)

Let me look at sample movies encoded from 1080p to upscaled UHD.

 

I literally can't

It does stuff on the spot

I can make a copy of my configuration file and let you run madVR, but I can't share an upsampled sample, that's pretty much the whole point of madVR, to do it on-the-fly.

It is 4K, has some extra spicy detail in the bw channel, but has terrible chroma compression with block artifacts and such

This is the point of understanding video properly, it is not a one-page book.

For watching 4K movies, like Ant Man and such, one movie has around 50 GB, that is a proper 4K file. That still can look better with MPC-HC + madVR than say VLC.

 

Its about if the fine detail 4k pics up is retained, no amount of processing will get that back if its compressed or being upscaled.

 

I won't download that much big file myself. I'm on limited data because I'm tethering my phone. I meant, I will make a sample video which I have and post results. I was thinking which movie to upscale yeah you gave an idea and I'll check using Ant man 2 or even deadpool 2.

 

Here we go...
Intel Prepares Xeon Gold U-Series CPUs To Battle AMD Tomshardware.com | April 13, 2019

Intel launched its latest Xeon processors, codenamed Cascade Lake (CSL), earlier this month. However, it looks like the sneaky Santa Clara chipmaker didn't reveal all its chips after all. ServeTheHome has learned that Intel is secretly readying its Xeon Gold U-series processors to contend with AMD's EPYC P-series in the single-socket market.

It seems all/many think Intel have given up and will let AMD eat the cake alone.

 

If they had given up there would not be 56 cores. However Intel is selling every piece of silicon they make at the moment, they cant keep up with demand which works in AMD's favour.

 

If it sells its a profit and a rip off old tech that has seen its days. EPYC is highly scalable and custom made for specific workloads to extract max performance at lower TCO.

 

Depends on your workload really, the inter core communication on the Intel will be faster and there are some workloads that do care about that.

 

Yeah depends on workloads. I'm skeptical about their Inter die comm-links and BGA daughter boards.

 

Inter die will just use the same links so a 2 socket system will be like the old 4 socket ones.

 

Todays good laugh + bump

Alienware 17 R5 hardware upgrade/Dell Community

 

Fair enough query because EOL'ed models are sold at ebay at low price and its natural for any user to shell out new HK chip and 1080 GPU if they're shelling out 450$+ and spending another 100$ for HK and 1080 200W TDP seems to be worth it. Performance wise I can't say much, if it gets throttled like usual.

 

Good luck find what you want (correct Intel BGA chips and correct Nvidia BGA package). Well over $1000 for locked down BGA and 1070.

 

Add another 500 Euros to get new laptop. haha.. Does Dell want people to buy new PCs instead of mobo swap?

 

Yes.

 

The latest GPUs are not cheap to buy either.

 

Neither are motherboards either most of the time. Might as well be halfway to a new PC on those alone. Add a new processor and GPU, get a new pc and a renewed warranty with it.

 

Replacing one part is usually cost effective but yes if you need a board and gpu a new system will make sense.

 

Which is the fallacy (along with a generally inferior end product) of the BGA turdbook. You buy three parts for a ludicrous price rather than paying less for only the part you need. Creative way of selling new notebooks instead of making a simple repair an affordable proposition. And, an "upgrade" is redefined as total system replacement with something newer and ( supposedly) better.

Precisely.

 

Just got another i7 4930mx, a GTX 1070, 32GB 2133Mhz RAM, 2x5TB HDD and 3TB of SSD with a leftover 2TB SSHD Firecuda. Oh yeah and a Killer AX1650 with an mpcie to m.2 adapter.

Then I also have an i7 4980hq sitting on my desk, with it I can punch up to 6700k levels.

Cant do that on BGA systems, thats for sure.

 

My BGA Joketop is sick and tired of seeing the truth. It cannot take more than 3400MHz RAM. Has only 2xm.2 ssd and 1xhdd.

 

Everyone has to start somewhere.

I have to figure out how to memory overclock at some point.

 

I think you mean 2400MHz RAM.

 

The fun with socket hardware... With BGA you're screwed.

The old lady from 2015 has been through several Cpu upgrades the last years. From 6700K→7700K→8700K and now with 9900K. All have lived it's life in the same old Clevo P870DM chassis with Z170 chipset.


6700K@Stock and oc'd



7700K@Stock and oc'd



8700K@Stock and oc'd



9900K@Stock and oc'd



https://hwbot.org/submission/4325031_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i9_9900k_2243_cb

 

Skylake BGA can do upto 2800MHz unofficially.

 

Though this set if chips is rare for Intel, usually they physically change the socket a bit.

 

Maybe Intel will change a bit on this due AMD finally is able to compete. Two gen is the normal now. Probably depends on how fast major changes in tech will come.

 

This is Intel we are talking about... plus there are some major techs incoming.

 

I'm actually worried AMD will take it as a lowered bar and not bother innovating as much once they've taken back enough market share.

 

Hopefully burned once twice as shy after the athlon 64.

Edit: 50,000 wow.

 

One can only hope. And congrats on 50K

 

Depends how they will do it the coming 3 years. No trees is able to grow right into heaven. It will just stop up or can even Die

Congrats with 50.000 posts Meaker. A milestone passed

 

Congrats, hope you don't get lazy now though, 100k next

 

Still a few years to go for that @Arrrrbol thanks everyone

 

lmao that wall paper. hatred enthusiast mind runs DEEP!

 

I spot an FPGA in the pile I think

 

And Dell has announced its new Precision 7540 and 7740 notebooks, almost certainly with the DGFF again, since the chassis is 95% the same.

I plan to upgrade from the Quadro P3200 to the Quadro RTX 3000. Specs here.

 

Looks to be around desktop RTX 2060 level performance based on the TFLOPS and mem BW, which would be a nice 50%+ upgrade from your 78W P3200. Hopefully not Max-Q shenanigans again (60-80W...), or there is an easy way to flash to the 80W vBIOS like you did before.

 

Quadro are usually wider and slower though so I would expect the TDP to be on the lower side.

 

Absolutely; that's the same conclusion that @Aaron44126 came to in his reply. It's a very nice bump from the ~12000 FS Graphics score of the P3200; I quite look forward to breaking the 20000 mark, if possible.

 

On second thought, I believe I was over-optimistic about Quadro RTX 3000 being desktop RTX 2060 level. The TDP gap between 80W and 160W is just too large.

Quadro RTX 3000 should perform nearly identically to RTX 2070 Max-Q as they appear to have the same core (fully enabled TU106, 2304 CUDA cores) and TDP (80W), which means the same clocks/FLOPS. Based on reviews of the 2070MQ, you can expect boost clocks under load in the 1300MHz range like here and here. The only difference between Quadro 3000 and 2070MQ is mem BW (336GB/s vs. 384GB/s) due to differences in bus width and mem speed. So assuming Quadro 3000 is 2070MQ performance (maybe a tiny bit under due to the BW), desktop 2060 is still 10-20% faster in FS/TS Graphics.

So yeah, Quadro 3000 is definitely not going to be twice as fast as P3200, or even 50%+ faster as I had previously assumed, outside of maybe Turing favoring benches/games like Time Spy and DX12/Vulkan titles.

And about 2060 being as fast as 1080, that's only true with the desktop 2060 (it's equal to 1070 Ti, therefore close to 1080). The mobile 2060 on the other hand is only 80W, and isn't in the same ballpark as mobile GTX 1080, take Heaven for instance:

 

Anyone tried some shunt mods?

 

For the Quadro?

 

Yes, any attempts?

 

Er, it's a brand-new machine, so I haven't really considered any hardware mods yet. I posted detailed photos of the P3200 DGFF somewhere here, I think; anyone who wishes to see where said mod can be performed is welcome to work on it.

I'll probably only attempt it after I have gotten my RTX 3000.

 

Haha fair enough, though a reversible mod is usually fun to play with if you can.

 

I'm not sure exactly what a shunt mod is, in the first place. I'm interested in doing one, though; care to elaborate?

How does it work, and what does it do? What are the risks and benefits?

Note that the Quadro has a locked VBIOS: power, voltage, clocks for core and memory are all locked. Zero editing is possible.

 

By "reversible" I assume @Meaker@Sager means shorting using liquid metal, as demonstrated here, as opposed to soldering resistor onto the board.

 

Or a pencil depending on shape.

 

According to everything Lisa Su has been saying for the last few years AMD has many revisions ahead bringing much more impressive improvements in all categories - hopefully the markets will fund those endeavors by buying steadily moving forward.

If you want new cool things from AMD, buy from them today, and along the way, it's all a matter of showing interest by voting with your money to tell AMD what to build out of what they've researched and developed.

It takes years ahead to plan these things out, and as AMD is readying release of Zen 2 / Ryzen 3 / Epyc 3 / (Threadripper 3), there are a bunch of projects still in development ready to move forward, as long as investment in them makes sense.

Buy AMD.