BGA Venting Thread ;)

Maybe it will work with the announced "fantastic" Direct X 12 Ultimate Only God knows what Intel and Micro$lope have cooked together. Remember the Ultimate Graphics Innovation


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You just got a love solderd Joke-books 17 R4, motherboard short circuit

17 R4, open issues?

 

Anything to beat Vulcan.

 

Hey, I don't mind responses to competition

 

Yeah, Intel will have the new chips out in May/June to compete with the best from AMD from last year. And worse it will be when the fall come and they fall further behind in terms of best performance.

Not being able to compete against AMD's middle tier chips will be quite embarrassing. Not even able to compete when we talk about price vs. performance. Yeah, different times now. It's good for Intel to take a timeout and see how this will pan out. They should be damn happy the ODM/OEMs spread their investment. Aka not put all the eggs in one basket (reduce use of Intel chips for more AMD chips).

AMD 4th Gen Ryzen Desktop Processors to Launch Around September 2020 techpowerup.com

 

Most will likely just skip this refresh.

 

Add in the re-hashed 2080 super cards for laptops and you see where this will go for owners who already have models with 2080. And with <Rocket and end of socket> support (2nd gen chips on same chipset) coming winter 20/21 with same 2080 super won't be so much better Maybe Rocket is still there when Ampere being released for notebooks, but this is still a better option than what we see now.

 

People buying the "refresh"

 

It's interesting that the AMD desktop chip series and the mobile series are going to be much more different than the intel side.

 

You mean they actually run as advertised?

 

10th gen overclocking controls

https://imgur.com/a/I3Em4Ul

 

Well technically the desktop AMD chips don't but more that the desktop and mobile platforms are different, different arches, chipsets etc.

 

Looks like undervolting will still be possible.

 

I'm on a discord chat with the guy who owns that laptop.
-140mv undervolt worked after overclocking controls were re-enabled in the BIOS.

-140mv, 10980HK:
70W package power, 76C

0mv:
91W package power, 93C.

Loadline crap


Dragon Center *cough* ( @Papusan vomit) set CPU VR Current Limit amps to 660 / 4
And set AC Loadline to 30.
Looks like DC enabled TDC limits too.

 

-140mV, is that for stock clocks?

 

And the "soldered on hardware" race from Dell continue. Of course the new XPS models must have soldered on WIFI. The disgusting trend continue bro @Mr. Fox @Falkentyne +++

Leaked XPS 15 9500 listing confirms it to be a step up from the XPS 15 7590 and a step down from the XPS 17 9700 wccftech.com | Today

 

Der8auer mentioning that 4266Mhz for the 10core is easy and similar to 9900k.

 

And in short said it was no reason to change socket for this gen chips.

 

They are supporting PCI-E gen 4 for the next gen on the socket which has certain requirements and the 10 core to meet factory power tolerances will need a bit of help too.

 

Intel want two gen chips on same socket. If they let Comet be on the old 1151 v2 we would see a a disruption in how Intel want it to be. Socket 1200 would be only for Rocket lake before they once again changed to socket 1700 and 10/7nm chips.

 

10900K is filler for LGA1200 before gen 4 pcie intel cpus. At least they kept the MSRP reasonable.

 

Got no choice really at this point, hopefully they can come back in and force AMD to lower their prices at some point.

 

A Ryzen 9 3900X should get you roughly 210 points in Single-Core and about 3150 points in Multi-Core (or near 20% more performance) at the same price point. Not so sure AMD will do much with the price point for 9 3900X. The 20% performance gap over Intel will stop that. Maybe they will lower the price point right before the new Intel ships hit the market to steal the show from Intel. But for a limited time.

The fastest AMD mainstream chips will give near 50% more performance than Intel's new top dog. And this won't change before earlyest 2022.


https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/a...of-intel-core-i9-10900k-on-cinebench-r15.html

 

CB tends to like more cores, if Intel can keep the frequency close to 5Ghz they will still come out on top in games and such.

 

Don’t forget the 10% ipc uplift over Intel. But Intel will still be the gaming chips for 1080p

 

I want to see if this IPC improvement is before or after the asterisk about not applied security patches.

 

I always want healthy competition, it's a win for the consumer. There is definitely a margin in those higher end AMD chips.

 

If games begin to scale with cores, Intels going to enter a world of hurt.

 

You mean they will lose in the price competition, lose in performance, lose in core count and in the end lose in performance vs price. Can't be any worse than this. At least they don't have to build out the chips capacity or have to hire more workers, LOOL

 

Yup, what a way to go. First the desktop market, then mobile. However, they do have a significant chunk of their income from datacenters.

 

I don't know how many of you watched this video from Steve, it's a great piece, shows clearly where Intel fell flat and the massive setback for the i5s can also be seen, which used to be go to recommendations for gaming to worse nowadays. Also goes in depth to explain the i7 2600K and it's relevance which is still holding well, this may or may not be repeating for 9900K/10900K, because of the latest consoles being developed on the Matisse Ryzen 3000 based 8 Core CPUs (XboxSX has SMT as optional, PS5 doesn't have) and the latest onslaught of the BGA rubbish from AMD Ryzen 4000H vs Intel BGA junk only time will tell how far Intel is going to get hurt.


On the BGA side, Seeing the latest Apple refresh of it's BGA trash Microshaft again launched some pathetic Surface use and throw garbage machines with soldered everything and ofc everything locked out, you cannot even install LTSC release onto that pathetic BGA junk, however can run Linux even if that abomination has full UEFI only. The biggest setback is lack of repair-ability for the battery, they could have simply added a detachable battery modules like we used to have for old laptops (Dell, HP, Alienware etc) It's now fused to the damn chassis like Apple trash, and SSD also soldered puke. Ugh, only good part is they all have 3.5mm jacks, SD card slots, and some have USB A ports.

All these new trash hardware for insane price from $1000 to $3500+ makes my old machine look much more powerful and upgrade-able and can run indefinitely, esp the fact that a 1070 drop in + 120Hz with 4930MX is perfect to run all the games from 2007 to 2020 with high FPS. All the best games, since nowadays we have an agenda shoehorned into the games.

 

Micro$oft prefer soldered ram for security. Will this means that +90% of all computers out there now is insecure and should be replaced with Microsoft's new Junk?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ts-and-incidents.816109/page-33#post-11008417

Enjoy the video.
https://twitter.com/h0x0d/status/1253917701719769088

 

The part about hackers with liquid nitrogen had me laughing out loud, until I realized this wasn't a joke vid

 

The ironic thing is intel was funding the move to more cores a few years ago.

 

I freeze when I read this...

Why Microsoft needs an Xbox gaming laptop pcworld.com by Brad Chacos Senior Editor at PCWorld

Microsoft created Surface to highlight the best of Windows, to show what’s possible when you tightly integrate the operating system’s capabilities with hardware tailored to use those powers to full effect. That’s why Microsoft needs an Xbox gaming laptop, too—a sleek, powerful device built with the same loving attention as Surface but dedicated to showcasing the best of what’s possible with PC gaming. Of Xbox gaming, beyond the console.

An Xbox gaming laptop could come clad in black, mirroring the Xbox Series X’s branding while standing apart from Surface’s traditional silver hues. Load it up with Nvidia’s ray tracing-capable GeForce RTX graphics,

"I want an Xbox gaming laptop, built with the same attention to detail as the Surface lineup, but focused on highlighting the best of Microsoft’s gaming innovations and what’s possible on the PC"

Brad Chacos Senior Editor at PCWorld can't be taken serously @Mr. Fox +++

 

They could kind of do something perhaps with crossplay but since both are just PCs anyway I don't see the point.

 

Lord knows the market is so saturated with options for gamer-boy trashbooks that adding another crappy option to the list won't hurt anything, other than sales for the "Micro$lop Partners" whose sales drop because of customers being split more ways than they already have been.

There is plenty of room at the digital cesspool. Tell the kiddos to pull up a chair, grab a straw, and start slurping.

I agree with you. There really isn't a point in it, and there is no need for their participation in the gaming turdbook niche. They just want to take a slice of the money pie, and there is probably no shortage of silly people that are willing to pay extra for their garbage versus another brand.

 

What is worse... Microsoft usually design the OS around own hardware (remember Win 8 and phones?). What we make... Is what you have to accept. You can't avoid it! That Microsoft push for more own hardware, is worse than that their partners make trashbooks.

 

They'll make "gaming notebooks" the functional equivalent of nothing more than a crappy version of a thin and light XBOX console with a built-in keyboard and display.

 

Even consoles today support m/kb for some games. What a terrible timeline we are in.

 

The problem is it's not a platform designed for mobile, it has a constant running wide GDDR6 memory bus so would suck from that perspective.

 

Mines are still running strong despite people saying they are outdated. The only thing they are lack of is throttling, lol.

 

Windows is getting more unbearable with each new rendition, only LTSC makes it tolerable.

 

I bought a Bugbook as a backup a few years back, the first thing I did was to remove the internal drive. I didn't even boot it, since I knew how absolutely bloated with preinstalled crap it would be.

 

It's a nice thing to keep around in case it has to go back lol.

 

If you buy cheap you also get the cheapest drive. Not the big loss if you put it in the drawer

 

I need board view P775DM3G

 

No HDD really has the same value as before really.

 

If you mean board schematic, you should be able to find them in the manual.

 

Thank you

 

The only place its going back in is a recycling bin. I remember when I initially bought it, it was sorta cheap and I could get 1 year extended warranty for a 1/3 of its price, which was a complete rip off.