BGA Venting Thread ;)

My god man! Think of the children wont you?!

 

They think of profits in the short term.

 

Could they separate the keyboard from the chassis/motherboard from the monitor as 3 separate pieces? It allows reuse of the monitor/keyboard/various non English keyboards etc. They'd only buy keyboards for the different languages or replace a broken part but the monitor they can upgrade whenever they wanted to? If they bought 5 laptops over time, they'd have 5x keyboards + 5x monitors currently.

 

Who separate them? Manufacturers will sbuild them in specific ways to lower production costs (assembly steps being a big factor)

 

Race to the bottom - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_to_the_bottom

 

It'd be something akin to those Surface books except with the ability to separate 3 instead of 2 and that the consumer could buy the parts individually. They could have various colors/materials to choose from for the keyboard etc.

 

The more modular the less scope in the design is one issue.

 

Will Dell change course? Nope. They hate upgradability and will fight for its righ to screw their customers.

Dell Hit With Fraud Case Over Alienware Area-51m Upgrade Claims
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-and-discussion.835993/page-15#post-11098495

@Blacky

 

So they are knowingly screwing us over. It's not like... it's market-driven. It's purely profit drive, wasteful and against customer interests and they know it.
I have faith that things will change, but it will take a while.

 

None of the vendors want to do a thick Tigerlake laptop? If given the same cooling constraints of a thicker heatsink/laptop, it would clock higher than the 11th gen desktop cpu

 

The new Acer Predator Helios 500 looks pretty thick for a BGA laptop. The 2018 model was definitely thicker than most other BGA laptops at the time, although it was tuned to be very quiet even at load by default. One of the few machines you could play a game without headphones on.

 

The thicker, quieter ones tend not to sell as well.

 

Yeah, equal upgradeable as a smartphone. Sad people don't set aside a couple of hours on due dilligence when they spend their hard earned money on new tech.



15 R4, gives "Power button gives 2 red 7 blue " and beeping sound 3-2-1

 

I cant wait until hdd's are soldered on the board lol

 

Please don't give them idea's they are doing this already with CPU GPU RAM SSD's WiFi. We don't need rust disks soldered to the board.

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But if its a SATA connection it would be out of place

 

How so?

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It would be the only standardized slot on the machine, might as well solder it too just for the sake of completion

 

so true.

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Could they make a laptop with one of the PCI-E slots on the left side? It would allow users to attach additional usb ports. Maybe as an optional item that can be included when purchasing a laptop? ( It would look more like a square/rectangular shape than that pic above ) It could come with a cover on the side for when it's not in use.

 

That was essentially ExpressCard

 

Those were the days. I remember Express 34, 54 and the Card Bus PCMCIA. Still have my R61e which has PCMCIA.

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Ah using a hardware accelerated pcmcia sound card, those were the days.

 

I guess technically speaking that could be USB4 / Thunderbolt going forward?

 

Yeah a usb 4.0 dock kind of does that.

 

Pretty much. ExpressCard Port was replaced with Thunderbolt and now Thunderbolt is getting replaced with USB 4.0.

 

All give a damn, in right to repair, reduce waste and save the environment.

Amazon destroys millions of unsold products every year, including MacBooks and iPads

Amazon delivers millions of products to the "Destruction Zone" every year.

It's Prime Day, so the perfect time to examine the technology giant's business model. A new report shows that millions of unsold products are destroyed every year instead of donating them or selling them at huge discounts.

Instead, they are mostly third-party products that are in the warehouses of the technology giant for faster shipping by Amazon. Since this storage costs money, it is sometimes cheaper to destroy the products than to keep them in stock. Many of the affected products go straight from production via the Amazon warehouse into the garbage can - at this scale that is a real environmental catastrophe.

According to Amazon, this is an "extremely small proportion" of the total inventory. This ITV report is by no means the first time Amazon has been criticized for destroying tons of new goods - we reported on this practice in 2018 , and research in 2019 came to a similar conclusion.

 

That is awful on so many different levels.

 

And the same people who back these big companies are the ones preaching that the everyday person is responsible for the large amounts of waste that is produced and the lack of access to basic resources in some areas of the world...

 

Somehow, I am not surprised. This is the ugly face of today's tech sector.

 

That's disgusting... That's all I can say.

 

Is there any reason a 17.3" laptop doesn't have more than 4 usb ports? The left and right sides look like they could fit 2 more on each ( 6 or even 8 total for the machine? ).

 

Save costs over time. Frustrating as even the smallest 13" laptop has plenty of "room" but I'm guessing it just boils down to what they think people will accept as the bare minimum and they just do that to save a litte on each one. I think some ports are less used nowadays but for many of us it's very annoying to have to grab a dongle to plug in something so simple as a m&kb, USB charge a device, use an SD card etc.

 

On the go it might be fine, but the user isn't always away. 8 usb ports would be nice vs the 4 they typically provide at the moment. DAC/Amp/Mouse/Keyboard is already 3-4 components.

 

Sometimes there is only 1 on smaller laptops, or even none on an apple lol. My new Razer 15 has 3 USB 3.1 and a couple USB-C, and even a SD card slot which I find very good nowadays. oddly enough I only have one dongle connected with USB-C currently and everything connected to that. That may be how lots of folks do it, but when I'm away from my desk I am much more likely to use the individual USB ports.

 

8 USB ports isnt justifiable as the entire market wouldnt make use of it.

It sucks but those that really want more ports will buy a hub

 

Even 6 would be nice. ( The DTRs don't have 6, right? )

 

Some DTR's do have 6 USB's, the x170 has 3 USB A's with 3 USB C 's

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some do and some dont.

I dont think mine does, might be 4, never actually looked since I only use 2

 

The p870 series has 7 usb ports (5x type a, 2x type c)

 

I expect more of the brands will follow Dell Alienware and cut on I/O ports and put the remaining ports on the back side. Fun place when you need them. Hope the flashy lights on the back is bright enough so you can put in an usb thumb or SD-card in blind without have to turn on the light in the room. A good way to sell more dongles.


And the new is no Network port for the x15. Dongles needed. Exactly as Apple-books.


The ultimate Apple I/O death chart - The Verge

 

I do like ports on the back though as I imagine its a better compromise for people that are left handed, having usb cables in the way of your mouse hand is annoying

 

Same for the SD-Card reader? They remove I/O ports when they put all on the back side. You get less of them. Replaced with a Dongle. On my Clevo I have I/O ports on all 3 sides.

 

Well that would be an odd one to be certain, its just annoying when you use a machine everyday only to have to work around it typically with USB-A and 3.5mm jacks in my instance. Not saying its justified completely, just that its probably a compromise worth considering for left handed people where most laptops have ports laid out on the left side cluttering up the mouse hand.

That being said, Alienware wants to please everyone, which means they will piss off everyone lol

 

6 Type As would be great. Those 2 AW X15/X17s only have 2 Type As and 1 Type C...

By any chance is the Helios 500 fully unlocked? ( memory settings and all ). Even the Alienware can somehow run 4000 Gear2 in a laptop chassis with little airflow with the cpu near 100c?

 

Cant say, you'd need to inquire in the Helios 500 threads

A poor cooling solution does not denote whether or not it would have the USB quantity that you would want though.

 

On my dock I have a powered hub so it's single cable, I tend to use less ports on the move but everyone's use cases will vary.

 

Microsoft just followed same paths as all others and help the OEM and hardware manufacturers to push people to throw away well working hardware. Try to save the environment from more e-waste has to come second or last. Replaceable processors suffer the same fate as the solder on hardware. Can't beat that!

Microsoft won't allow Windows 11 on many older Surface devices or computers with 2-4 years old processors from Intel or AMD
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-11.836230/page-20#post-11103145

A little too late...
Microsoft products must be repairable for a sustainable future, insists shareholder body neowin.com

Over the last few years, the 'Right to Repair' movement has brought big tech companies like Microsoft under pressure. In the latest development, As You Sow, a watchdog that oversees the environmental impacts of e-waste has filed a shareholder resolution that urges Microsoft to embrace such policies that empower product repairability.

 

I suppose it does simplify the code base.

 

How does Linux manage to support any CPU imaginable?