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    CLEVO Drivers Update Utility by OBSIDIAN-PC

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. JaredJ

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    Thanks for your hard work dude. Love the app.
     
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  2. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Did you install it by selecting the "Install latest Audio Driver even if it breaks SBX" ?
    If you did that is a untouched Realtek audio driver, it works.
     
  3. optimisez

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    Nope. Actually I hope u can make the modded Realtek audio driver able to support Clevo P650RS-G.
     
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    Very well to know, I'm waiting for the next app update :)

    However now it's fixed, thanks.
     
  5. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    I'm sorry but I just can't do those. I would have to keep a working unit of each model to test.
    That's just too much trouble and time consuming, I'm sorry.
    If I was you I would just get rid of SBX and use the lastest audio driver.
    To be honest SBX sucks, if you need to adjust your audio settings there are far better ways then using that.
     
  6. Rynaus

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    IMHO SBX doesn't suck and it is a great equalizer software + the gaming features.

    What are some of these "far better ways", if you would like to share ?

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
  7. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    I actually do professional audio, one of my other passions... I do use RME gear only and I have long years of trained hears.
    I don't understand why you would want anything more then a simple equalizer and individual speaker volume adjusts.
    If you can tell me the exact features you use from the SBX software I can tell you how to achieve those results using other methods.
    I usually only use clean audio signal paths and the sound as flat as possible for mixing and mastering. But I understand you may want to boost certain features or filter bands for determined speakers right?
     
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  8. Rynaus

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    You do realize that people who buy Clevo gaming laptops are rarely sound engineers or DJ artists right ? You're comparing professional studio features with a PC Software for tuning audio. I'm comparing SBX with Realtek Audio.

    SBX gives much better control of what you're hearing compared to ****ty Realtek equalizer, whether you're listening to Music, Gaming or watching Movies.

    Have you ever played a game with the SBX effects or an FPS like CS:GO with Scout mode ?

    Now to answer your question - Why would I want anything more than a simple Equalizer ? Well, let's say I'm listening to music - the music mode of SBX sounds quite good to the kind of music I usually listen to. I don't have to fiddle around with the equalizer. Not everyone likes to listen to their music flat, even if they have audiophile grade equipment.

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
  9. razorfold

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    There seems to be two issues with the latest Synaptics driver on both W10AU and CU.

    - The touchpad delay / sensitivity setting is broken. There's no way to turn it off without doing a registry edit (the no delay option doesn't do anything and I'm not sure if any of the other options do anything either). To disable it change PalmDetectConfig to 0 in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Synaptics\SynTP\TouchPad.

    - A few BSODs with the error SynTP.sys DRIVER_IRQI_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL both with and without the registry edit for palm detection.

    Rolling back to an older driver did fix both of those issues.
     
  10. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    At least you got the touchpad to work. I can't use it at all unless I install a driver from 2012 designed for Windows 8 (not 8.1). The advantage to that version, though, is that it puts back the old Synaptics control panel, rather than the garbage that's integrated into the Windows 10 settings.
     
  11. razorfold

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    Oh sweet. Good to know that you can get the old control panel back by going to a driver thats really old lol. There's so many setting in there that are just missing (or just broken) from the one integrated into Windows.
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The only thing that old CP seems to be missing is the option to disable the touchpad when a USB mouse is connected. But that's not a situation I would ever run into because whenever the machine is not connected to my external monitor, keyboard, and mouse, I'm using it on my lap, so I'd be on the trackpad anyway.

    There's a link in this article to where you can get that older driver.
     
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  13. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Some years ago I remember that I installed minimal touchpad drivers and then I used a app that would manage the touchpad.
    The point of the app was to mimic apple trackpad behavior.
    So Maybe there's an alternative.
    We could make a set of alternative driver solutions.
    There's a similar solution for the Audio driver too, I remember seeing it in another thread.
     
  14. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    When I had my MacBook Pro, someone created a hacked driver for the trackpad that made it somewhat usable. Problem was you also had to install their power plan manager app that had all kinds of problems on its own, so I gave up on it. There are newer Synaptics drivers that use the older control panel, which is what you'll find on the MSI GT line of notebooks. However, I can't get them to install on my machine, even in place over the existing Windows 8 driver I'm using now. Again, it's not the end of the world, but if you can make some sort of Frankenstein's monster out of the current driver and old control panel using the version I linked to above, you'd certainly have my attention.
     
  15. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    But which are the actual advantages of the synaptics control center in comparison to the windows touchpad menu?

    To be honest I would rather have everything integrated into the OS like in my Linux work install. If there's one thing I don't like in windows is the different drivers and apps having each its own control panel.

    Sorry if you already answered this but it's holiday here so I been mostly using my phone.

    By the way I just finished the new download manager with queues, download speed info, and much more.
    So I can now include two new options:

    - Update All - it will queue all available updates, even if you restart in between, the app will resume after windows restart.

    - One Click install for new windows installs will be back - this time it will queue all latest drivers and then trigger an unattended install for all.

    Also properly integrated 7z to the app - uncompressing won't open new window and the app will show it's progress. Also capable of uncompressing queues.

    And this is my holiday fun... Will make it available on next update.

    As requested will add a start with administrator privileges option, this way you won't have all those permission requests in between driver installs.

    This ends the new code for everything related to drivers.
     
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  16. saturnotaku

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    The older Synaptics control panel gives the end user much more fine grain control over the trackpad's behavior. I believe you can set things like dead zones and such, which is not possible under the current W10 integration
     
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    skandal Notebook Evangelist

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    It's still possible. Just go to the old control panel and the touchpad options will be there. I'll try to post some screenshots after work.
     
  18. saturnotaku

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    I know. The most current drivers for the touchpad are integrated directly into Windows 10 settings. There's no separate Synaptics control panel. The older driver has that control panel and all the options afforded therein.
     
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    Wow. Can u recommend some software that can achieve the audio quality near to SBX or even beyond? I only use Music profile in SBX.
     
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    Hello, I am french and I come to ask for your help because I have a big concern ... I have a Clevo P775-dm3 i7 7700k + gtx1080
    The problem is that I did an update bios 1.06.02 And since I lost the G-Sync on my Clevo have told me that I could surely fix it with update bios 1.06.06 of obsidian- PC but I am not customer, how to do so to get it ?? Help me please!
     
  21. Mr. Fox

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    Yeah, I hate the Windows 10 integration with the touchpad driver control panel. I find it really icky. It belongs in the system tray and that's where it needs to stay.

    As a general rule, I really do not care for laptop touchpads under any circumstances. If I could get a stock looking palmrest that had no touchpad of any kind (just a blank palmrest area from edge-to-edge) that would be awesome. I always use a mouse, even when the laptop is in my lap. My touchpads stay disabled more or less 24/7 and have no visible evidence of use/wear even after several years.
     
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    Thanks for the Obsidian tool John, worked like a charm for my sig rig. You rock man, I did not buy my PC from your company, but I would be willing to donate a few bucks for making this tool so easy to use with my laptop. I know I can not get the updated BIOS, it is a bummer, but I still will donate for the tool itself just being so smooth and compatible. Let me know if your company has a donate page or email for Paypal, thanks.
     
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    Go back to your supplier and ask them for a BIOS update. If it really is the case that 1.06.02 stops G-sync then they should be able to supply you with a newer one
     
  24. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    About the BIOS: I'm out in a business trip so I can only help when I return.
    Pm me and I will help when I get back.

    Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hello, this is what I have done several times already and yet it is my dealer himself who told me to search on the Internet or see with obsidian I am currently disappointed because I can not have the option Overclocking and the G-sync that have gone ... no one can give me the 1.06.06 ??
     
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    Crappy dealer then, they should be able to go back to either their distributor or to Clevo and get the BIOS update.
     
  27. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    I can, I'll post it as soon as I get in front of my laptop.
    Why can't you overclock?
    You should be able with a app like throttlestop.
     
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    In fact, when I run the control center for overclocking, it does not open at all, in the bios, the only menu that appears is for the overclock of the RAM and not the CPU. I tried trottlestop but it does not work either ...
     
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    I'm in Ec 06.06.02 et bios 06.06.04 xmg ..
     
  30. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Throttlestop should work.
    What is your CPU model?
    And also the control center version that we use in our app is modified, we removed the OC section since we don't recommend it.
    But yeah, throttlestop should definitely work. Are you sure you have a K CPU?
     
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    Yes, I did the update that my provider gave me to be with an i7 7700k but nothing works and my provider does not answer me at all because he does not know ...
     
  32. skandal

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    You can still acess the old control panel in newer drivers. I didn't have the time to post it :(

    You can also do that. Funny is that I never liked to touchpad settings in the system tray. I'm not changing the touchpad settings every day, I set them once and that's it.
     
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    Regardless, it doesn't matter for me because the new drivers cause my trackpad to not work at all. The thing is completely dead/unresponsive.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    I still flash update that my provider gave me but the problem and always the I despair.
     
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    Person to help me please?
     
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    Hey there !

    I just got a laptop from obsidian (P775DM3) and after I activated Windows (bought it without a license), each time the obsidian app started, it would freeze the taskbar (couldn't use it anymore) until I quit the app.
    I reinstalled windows and it worked fine after (aside from my audio ports not working properly, but that is another issue).

    It might come from the fact that when I activated Windows, I used a key for an English Edu version while the version that was installed was a French one.
     
  37. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    do what now? :rolleyes:
     
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    I need the obsidian pc update 06.06.09 to set the worry ...
     
  39. skandal

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    Yes, it's a bit useless for you unfortunately :(

    Did you try the 19.3.4.66 version of the driver?

    But for anyone interested here it goes.
    old_mouse_options.jpg
     
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    30 CELSIUS DROP AFTER thermal grizzly conductonaut, I am not sure if the cpu heatsink was not hitting right or what... how can a paste make that much of a different... oh man


    im getting 67 celsius max now instead of 97, and im at 3.9ghz all 4 cores no downclock.


    gpu dropped 20 celsius as well.... and its boosting to 2ghz.... wow... I think Clevo just didnt sit the heatsink right or something... i have no freaking idea... all i know is that my temps are amazing now after grizzly... omg guys.... omg rofl this is the most insane thing i have ever experienced in my entire life, i was expecting 5 celsius max...
     
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    Well, Conductonaut is a liquid metal TIM which is expected to conduct extremely well so no surprise there.

    The stock paste is also pretty bad as it's pre-applied to the heat-sinks (like Intel stock coolers). Most resellers offer their own re-pasting services for that reason.

    Chances are you've got the trifecta of:
    1. Poor stock paste
    2. Poor stock mounting (the original paste is bad, but it's not 97C bad)
    3. Top end new TIM
    Good to hear about the drops though. Might give it a go when mine inevitably needs a re-paste (using Hydronaut atm).
     
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  42. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    The app freezing the taskbar is something i´ve seen before, seems like a app bug, i will investigate and try to solve it adding a startup delay ;)

    Audio ports not working? Please make sure you have both Audio and Control Center driver installed.

    Windows EDUCATION ? if that´s what you have now, then i would get rid of it ASAP, it is the most problematic windows install i ever seen :O
     
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    I´m not sure why you placed that information here, this thread is about the OBSIDIAN APP :p.
    But well, about your findings, that just means that the reseller where you bought your laptop from did not assemble and tested your unit properly, not as much CLEVO fault to be honest.

    Also are you sure you that big temperature drop isn´t also caused by using our app CPU profile? Because if you are using it undervolts your system.
     
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    Latest P775 BIOS - 1.06.09
    Latest EC - 1.06.06
    Latest 2nd EC - 1.06.01

    I can share that, the stock CLEVO versions, NOT the "OBSIDIAN-PC" version, since the OBSIDIAN-PC version is for OBSIDIAN-PC laptops only.
    Is that ok?
     
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    Yes it please me
     
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    You have a tutorial installation?
     
  48. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Dude... i don´t have time for this :p
    Write me an email to [email protected] and i will just send you a Windows flasher ready to go with our modified latest BIOS...
    You got me in a good mood.
    PS. You brick the unit you are doomed :p not my fault!
     
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  49. wesker0393

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    Non mais je sais faire, juste pour savoir si il y avait une manière différente avec ce BIOS ?
     
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    Non, si vous avez déjà fait une Update utilisant la méthode EFI, alors ce BIOS sera le même méthode.
    Comment avez-vous update le bios dans le passé? En utilisant DOS ou EFI?

    Mais comme je vous l'ai dit, je peux vous donner une Update facile de Windows, double clic et c'est fait!
     
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