CLEVO Drivers Update Utility by OBSIDIAN-PC

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this works with 870TM? what about window version? i just try running it to see what its like getting 0xc000007b error. it kinda make sense cause im on server 2012 which is basically windows 8/8.1

 

You need MS visual studio runtime.
You need Windows 10.

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ah so only works with 10

 

Not sure to be honest... But I only test with 10...

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Hey guys, thanks for the new updater app and for enabling/making PayPal payments easier (way back in ... err.. January I tried to procure the full-up version of the old Tools app, but I don't think it was an option back then). I do have a quick question and a not-so-easy/quick feature request for the new Control app,though - namely, do you plan to offer (modest) discounts for the Keyboard and Fan modules you're planning to implement and the feature request - can you implement some sort of a workaround for the abnormally high sound levels from the headphone amp on the P650HS-G, when you boot up/wake from standby with a plugged in wired headset. into the control app?

 

If I may ask,

Do you have the latest version of Clevo Control Center installed?

 

Yeah, or at least the latest one the old Obsidian-Tools app found for my laptop - 5.0001.1.80, but the issue has been there from day one. To be honest, I think it's more of an audio firmware bug where the system doesn't store the headphone info at shutdown and instead defaults to a higher level output for the headphones (instead of automatically re-running the headphone impedance test or restoring the previously determined values)

 

Huh, I don't remember this tool requiring payment to use. Is there way to still use it for free or has it shifted to a paywall model entirely? If so is there an alternative software that gets the job done?

 

Did the Control Center alpha get released this weekend? Or am I confused?

 

Per John@OBSIDIAN-PC

It was a trade, I give you Control Station and Keyboard LED for free and in exchange I took away the free license.
Leeching was out of control damaging the server load and overall service quality.

There will soon be 4 apps:

- Updater for drivers
- Control Station to replace Clevo control center
- Keyboard LED
- Fan Control

Control Station and Keyboard LED will be the free apps.

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Control center beta has been out for a week or two, along with updater. They were discussing fan control alpha a day or two ago.

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Thank you, where can I download the Control Center/Control Station beta? I was unable to find it anywhere.

 

found the link the new apps!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-by-obsidian-pc.801464/page-157#post-10765478

 

Fan Control ULTRA ALPHA:

http://obsidian-pc.com/FanControl.zip

Install at your own risk!!!
- DUAL GPU LAPTOPS NOT SUPPORTED YET!!!
- Lot´s of Bugs, Lot´s of Crashes (maybe... not sure... you tell me... ) but EXPECT HELL SINCE ITS ALPHA!!!!

As always, copy all contents to C:\ProgramFiles\LaptopTools\ - makes no difference if you replace the files or ignore!!!

 

So, if I purchase the license for this, will this carry over into the release version?
It's currently marked as "time limited beta version".

 

It will, but don't buy it unless you are 100% sure that it works.
Buying before release means you are supporting the project, BUT if it's not going in the direction you wanted you should suggest what we should change and read our reply first, we might be unable to add the features you want...

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The purchase URL is right here: https://code.obsidian-pc.com/product/fancontrol/

Acquiring a pair for the Q6 and the P751DM2-G. At last I can now ditch the cancer that is Clevo Control Center.

 

John, this will be considered as 'premium' software? or will be 'free' for people who already bought obsidian laptops? Maybe not determined yet or maybe you cannot tell me yet...

 

I understand.

For one, I'd want to see this project succeed, and I have the financial means to make a decent contribution to it.

Seeing a Clevo partner take the helm and address this long-standing issue (dropping Clevo Control Center's bloatware as a necessity in fan control and keyboard back-lighting) is commendable, to say the least. Keep up the good work.

This is an example of a vendor walking the talk. And this effort, and the financial constraints involved in making this project a success, matter as well.

 

Also, is there a way to donate to this project directly? Is that also acceptable?

 

May I request the ability to disable exiting confirmation dialog for Updater? Also will there be a "bundle discount" when purchasing both Updater and Fan Control?

Thanks for creating these great software!

 

OBSIDIAN laptops never need to purchase any software, all our software works out of the box!

Well Control Station and Keyboard LED will probably be mostly done at home after work hours and they will keep being free since they have no costs besides development, so if you really want to donate you can pay me a beer to my paypal: [email protected] - a lot of users have requested a donations email, well you can use that.

For those who want a full package with all the current software you can download this: http://obsidian-pc.com/LaptopToolsFull.zip
(Remember, everything goes to C:\Program Files\LaptopTools\ )

Here is what´s included at this moment:

FANCONTROL (ALPHA VERSION)
- No EC Monitoring (disabled) - using Open Hardware Monitor (other monitor engines will be added)
- Super Alpha (buggy, crashy, bla bla bla)
- Purpose of release is to get feedback on controls / ui / features you want to be added!!!



CONTROL STATION
A replacement for CONTROL CENTER
Missing power management features and Keyboard LED not done yet



UPDATER
An easy to use Drivers and BIOS updater (BIOS only for OBSIDIAN laptops or when re-sellers add their own links)



Highlights:
- All apps use same design guidelines
- All apps use same Branding elements which can be changed to match your Brand (Title Bar Name, Highlight Color, Texts, etc)
- No EC hacking, uses same methods that Control Center uses
- DPI / Scale aware - will improve in time
- All running at x64 bits
- All available at discounted prices for resellers (PM or Email)
- All apps auto-update to latest version available (wont change anything related to Branding)


FULL PACKAGE DOWNLOAD: http://obsidian-pc.com/LaptopToolsFull.zip
(Remember, everything goes to C:\Program Files\LaptopTools\ )

 

What license do I need to buy for the whole package? I would like to test

 

CONTROL STATION - Free no license
KEYBOARD LED - Not Available atm
FAN CONTROL - Free atm (alpha version) includes link to purchase license at discounted price (Pre-Sale discount)
Updater - includes link to purchase license

 

Thank you for this. Is there any ETA for the Keyboard LED?

 

Nop no ETA at the moment... too much going on to even think about ETAs

PS. So not a single comment on the fan control thing??? Does it even work in your system?? Cmon guys let me know!

 

Such a great news for clevo users! Seems by testing that my undervolted 7700hq on N870HP6 (Sager) dont need even more than 65% of duty cycle in full load to maintain under 73c and do not heat up more than that, WAAAAAAAAAAY more quiet behaviour than with EC automatic profile and basically same temps so far (compare to 50% duty on 50c stock fantable lol)!. Not so good with GPU thou.
@John@OBSIDIAN-PC A bit of report: maybe it's due to Open Hardware Monitoring engine, but it seems a bit problem with GPU fan in manual mode. When GPU is heated up to, e.g., 75c, and i close the benchmark app, fan stops spinning at all immediately, without cooling it to certain value. With working MSI Afterburner monitoring thou after closing the benchmark fan will start and stop spinning every polling period until reaching certain temp (like on-off every 2 sec or so, until specified temp for 0% fan duty is reached). Dunno if that is specifics of this model.

Want also to ask @Meaker@Sager if any cooperation with Obsidian is planned for Sager users could get this cool stuff somehow in future?

 

YES!!! That is due to OPTIMUS!! Im almost 100% sure of that, basically when you close the benching app the NVIDIA GPU will turn off right? At that point Fan Control will no longer know what to do!
This will be solved by the time of release version.
At the moment i will just improve that by adding a forced ramp down on optimus systems, you should get that on next beta update... i honestly did not had enough time for all Optimus related considerations.

Thanks for your comment!

PS. Everyone is free to suggest features!!!! We will take them in consideration!

 

Nothing I am aware of.

 

Aye Aye sir

 

Yes, you know what i meant regarding GPU!
Guess everybody are busy with testing, it's been a desirable thing for several years as i know
Trying to figure out how the ramping works, am i right that basically with minimum 'fan update interval' and maximum 'Fan ramping steps' CPU fan should change it's speed most smoothly?..

 

Fan update interval is a cycle at X ms... the smaller the value (slider to the left) the faster it keeps updating the Fan RPM and the more CPU intensive it is.

So it´s basically at each X ms (update interval) the fans will go up or down X amount of steps....

Smother Ramping means less steps, being 1 step the smoother.
With few steps it takes longer to update the RPM so you might need a faster Update Interval (smaller value).
With bigger steps (25 steps or more) you can get away with bigger update intervals.

I use 160ms update time, 5 steps for CPU and 20 steps for GPU.

The beauty of this is that on next update you will be able to setup the Behavior for EACH fan mode. So for Silent i will use something like 200ms / 1 step / 2 steps, for Normal something like 160ms / 5 steps / 10 steps, for Extreme 100ms / 25 steps / 25 steps.

 

I'm still at work so I haven't been able to test the fan control!

But before I do and feedback, do I need to uninstall CCC or close it, or can your fan control tool be used alongside it? I have some keyboard lights configured so I don't really want to uninstall CCC until I can fully replace it with your keyboard LED.

 

All apps can be run with or without CC.

 

The fan controls won't fight each other? Also, since it's alpha, if something happens (user error probably), will CCC or the built ins kick the fans into high?
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CC wont fight it if you have CC in Automatic Mode, but you can test it yourself.
If the app crashes it will get your fans stuck at the last RPM... so you should consider keeping an eye on it, and if it crashes double tap FN+1 (max fans, auto fans).
THIS IS ALPHA!!!! Testing purpose only!

Here is what´s coming next, Fan Control will not run unless Control Station is running, this will give us a DOUBLE security, if Fan Control crashes then Control Station will immediately set fans to Auto and notify you about the crash! This is possible due to an already included system that allows our apps to talk to each other, not just checking if it´s running but doing all sorts of data exchange.
To this date i was unable to crash Fan Control to be honest.... i´m doing my best... the only way i can make it crash is if i use a Automatic mode and format the entry tables with wrong numbers or letters... but even that wont be possible in the next update... so it seems solid!!! VERY solid.... I guess having a double security will be just a matter of really wanting to be able to call it a 100% secure app. Also let´s not forget that if system overheats it will throttle down, if that´s not enough it will shutdown (all systems do this by EC).
If anything closes Fan Control it already sets Auto fans on exit.

 

Will you be able to disable the Control station software although it won't use many clock cycles? Have more than needed running in the background isn't wanted for everyone. Can this be done on a better way?

 

I can do it in two ways.
A) Make an option to run Control Station with minimal background stuff (already in the works since it will have a Gaming Mode)
B) Instead of using Control Station to add a security layer i can create the lightest possible background service (around 10 lines of code) just to keep an eye for Fan Control crashes, this task will start along with Fan Control and be killed when you exist Fan Control

To be honest i don´t know what´s the new CC (2.0) take on this, if we set it to manual and then Kill it what happens to Fans? Have anyone tested it?

 

Seems to be working great for the CPU fan even while CCC is running in auto mode. The fan control app is very responsive to the temperatures in manual mode. However, I can't get the GPU fan to work. GPU shows up in the app as "Disabled". I have a P950HR. Open Hardware Monitor the app itself does detect the GPU and the temperature, so not sure why your fan control app doesn't?

 

Oh i get it, thank you! Guess i'm missunderstanding what 'step' is. And for now i haven't been able to crash app too, with it running laptop ignores any fan-related commands from CCC, i've tried to kill CCC, re-open it, etc, everything is OK.
Thing i've noticed now is that if you set Fan Control on 'Manual mode', close it properly with automatic EC restoring and then re-open the app fans will turn on 100% for a second before starting to behave according to manual config

 

Optimus Laptops are a work in progress.
Try killing all instances of Open Hardware Monitor (ALT+CTR+DEL) and then restart fan control.

This is on purpose... i went for that first high rev sound like when you turn on a Ferrari... joking

 

@John@OBSIDIAN-PC

So far the Fan Control seems to work fine, it took my settings and work fine, however there are a few things that don't work:
Webcam
Touchpad
WiFi

Doesn't work at all, can enable or disable those things.
Apply volume on headphones doesn't work either.
FN +1 doesn't work, when selecting the option "max fan" works flawlessly, maybe add the fn+1 hotkey in the fan control software.

No crashes etc. after using it for a while. Will keep you updated.

 

Wow wow wait.... you are mixing a lot of stuff...
Turning ON and OFF webcam, touchpad, wifi is Control Station stuff.
I´m 100% sure those work on systems with latest drivers / windows 10, BUT the P375SM is a system i never sold so i have no way to test a unit that goes so much back...

Maybe you should focus on Fan Control only and forget about Control Station? Since Control Station will have supported ONLY for the same models that the Updater supports.

 

I know, just figured that I might as well in case you want to support more models.

But the max fan thing is something you can look at. Kinda weird, especially since it does accept "automatic mode" but doesn't switch to max fan.

 

If you have the Fan Control in EC Automatic or EC Max Speed then the FN+1 will work right? Is that it?

 

Amen!

I'll give feedback on Fan control when I'm back on the Clevos.

 

No, the FN+1 doesn't ramp up the fan to maximum speed when fan control is on. It will only work when you either click on automatic fan control or shut the program down. Basicially the max fan gets overwritten by the software. So you need to build fn+1 as max fan in the fan control software, then it'll work fine since you already have max fan in the code.

Also when doing a stresstest, fan control will cause microlags, not when doing normal tasks tho, only on stresstest.

Also I noticed that the CPU reading is bugged. It says my Fan runs at 5-10%, when changing settings in manual mode, I ramped the fans up to 50% to test if it works, and the fans spin up accordingly, however the tool still shows only 5-10%, not sure what causes this funny reading tho.

EDIT: nevermind, apaprently it's the CPU and GPU usage, which is odd. I think you might want to add "usage" somewhere, since I thought those were actual fan speeds and not usage :'D

 

Microlags? At what fan update interval did you set it?
There is NO indicator of Fan Load / spin... The indicator show actual CPU and GPU cores Load/Usage.

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Yeah I know, I figured that out later. I also noticed it says Temperatures/Load on top, which I didn't see for some reasons (maybe plate the load next to the bars or so. I set the update on 100ms.

when doing stresstest on GPU, it doesn't cause microlags. Only when doing CPU stresstests.

Also it doesn't start with windows when I select "start with windows".

There is also a little glitch which I think is a conflict with my clevo control center, because when I do a GPU only stresstest, the CPU fan goes beserk and then slows down in specific intervals. (goes up due to Clevo Control Center and down due to manual fan profile)

tested the tool for couple of hours thus far and didn't crash a single time.
W10 1803 @ P375SM-A