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    CLEVO Drivers Update Utility by OBSIDIAN-PC

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    [​IMG]

    Much to do, still much to do... but i think we are in the right direction here!
    Dont forget to leave suggestions.
    More CPU Profiles will be available in the next days. This should give everyone a good starting point to improve the laptop performance.
     
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    Test of the CPU tab with Mass Effect Andromeda

    This is my test this evening after 2 hours of playing Mass Effect Andromeda:

    mass effect andromeda.PNG

    Very hot, but no throttle whatsoever. In CC: tab Performance, with Overlock fan speed.

    I've tried the same with the stock voltage and I got 99 celsius as a peak, after few minutes of playing.
     
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    Bug report on the CPU tab

    When I try to download the new setting bank (10.0.0.2) it seems like it has done it successfully:

    cpu 2.PNG

    But if I close the Obsidian Tool and reopen it again, I get again the previous version (10.0.0.1) in the "Latest Downloaded":

    CPU 1.PNG
     
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    Thank you for reporting.
    Its fixed now, please download it again (the profile).
     
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    Ok now it works fine :) Thanks
     
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    Update Released:

    -Fixed the broken "Start Minimized" Option
    -7700HQ Profile available
    -BIOS Update for P650HS / P670HS / P670HP6 - 1.05.04
    -BIOS Updater can also update EC2 for complete BIOS/EC1/EC2 updates
     
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    This is probably a question I should be asking the ThrottleStop owner, but I'm wondering. Is it possible to have the power profiles somehow sync with the Windows power profiles ? One of the reasons I don't use TS is that I find it crazy to have 3 different power profile setting at the same time - 1. Windows power profile, 2. CCC power profile and 3. TS power profile.

    At least CCC profile is synced with the Windows profile. But not TS.

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
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    Well actually TS manages CPU only, Windows Power Settings manages a lot other stuff.
    CCC is something i never even look at, if it was up to me i would just re-do the all damn thing, i don´t think there´s performance differences in any model if you go from Entertainment to Performance if you then set TS to tune your CPU.
    So just leave CCC in Entertainment, tune your Windows Power Options to your liking, Use TS profiles according to your needs.
    I actually think i could make my app capture hotkeys and sync them, TS with Windows Power Options, i just need to read up about making system wide hotkeys.
     
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    Hi. i try instal obsidian to my old P775DM1. install sucsesfull. working, but some drivers as audio, fingerprint... not working.
     
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    Supported model is the P775DM3-G, we never sold the DM1 sorry.
     
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    John

    What's new or updated in the new bios file for the P650HS? I have that model but bought it directly from Sager. Just curious as to what has been updated as Sager doesn't have a newer bios file for the P650HS yet...


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    CLEVO did not supply any change log, as usual...
    As for our version it´s the usual... we change some stuff... a lot to be honest.

    NOTE TO EVERYONE:
    Looking at our server log we noticed that some IPs are using the app in a very stupid way, we have the same IP downloading the full ONE CLICK install more than 5 times in a single day, actually there are days with 10 downloads or more... The same IPs are doing this on a daily base... We have same IPs doing 10GB - 20GB a day!!!
    Well, tracing those IP it´s clear that these are resellers who are using our app to install the drivers for their clients. I´m ok with this to be honest but DAMN at least think about what you are doing, if you download it once just copy it to a network drive or a USB pen to use it on another laptop, don´t just download for each laptop you assemble.
    If this keeps on going i will have to take measures, i will disable the one click install for non-clients or i will start blocking IPs who are abusing it.
    This behavior is making the app slow for everyone and even slowing down my store website.
     
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    Yes. I know it. But your software working with my laptop and this is cool. Many drivers as IME, Chipset, Touchpad, wifi and others are working for me. This is great software for me. Thanks.
     
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    Oh dear lord :D

    Any chance of any Portuguese IPs are doing the same? ;)
     
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    Yeap that is it.
     
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    In that case I'm pretty much screwed on getting a bios update then huh?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    Prema,

    Please save my ignorant soul. Next time I will buy from a prema partner! (I didn't know such a thing existed prior to buying what I have now).


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  19. Prema

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    I am trying to also help people who where unable to purchase from a partner shops whenever I have some time to do so...just be a little extra patient with me.

    @John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    Very useful app here John, well done! THX for taking time to do this for the Clevo family.
    I would like to show my appreciation and spread some love with a bunch of 'limited early access codes' for 'personal prema mods' which you can distribute among your user base as you see fit.
     
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  20. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    That´s cool bro, so i´ll make this something for the NBR family. Users from NBR who purchase from me can just request the codes from me and then i will pass it to you, i´m sure a lot of NBR user will appreciate this.
     
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    REALTEK LAN - Updated!

    Notice: Due to my lazzy ass code the latest LAN driver version will show as being older than the installed version... why?
    The latest driver is a number shorter than previous version.

    So the latest: 10.14.123.2017
    The previous: 10.13.1223.2017

    My lame code, simply removes the dots and does a If (a > b) {...}
    Which in this case causes this problem, the latest is newer but yet it´s a smaller total number. How stupid was i right? I´m very sorry for this.

    To avoid this from ever happening we need to split the number before each point like getting a array of numbers and compare them like:
    Is 10 > 10 ? If not move on:
    Is 14 > 13 ? Yes? Then there´s a new version.

    This is basic stuff but i was under the impression that no one will ever release a update with fewer numbers than the previous release.... yeah i should have thought better.

    How to Solve:
    Check "Enable Force Update...." and voilá update REALTEK Lan

    PS: I´m pretty sure @skandal will soon be here mocking me and laughing is ass out...
     
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    Maybe related: The Tool doesn't seem to recognize the newer ME driver, newer CCC revisions & card-reader needs to be active with a card in the slot to show driver revision:

    tool.jpg
     
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    Tried the ME update myself and it installed perfect and the app finds it perfect.
    Are you installing using the .exe package or just using inf files?

    By newer CCC versions you mean the ones in the CLEVO website?
    Because the CCC is a different beast, the app is done to work fine ONLY with the CCC versions from my server, my modded ones.

    I can´t reproduce the realtek driver thing, will try to reproduce it myself to fix it. Maybe your power options disable it from running and so there´s no running .sys file.
     
  24. skandal

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    It quite normal to have different number of numbers in the version number (oh look, a tongue twister).
    But it's an honest mistake :D

    You cold also try to fetch the driver date, and compare dates instead of version (or do both).
     
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    If you would like to implement a more structured approach to the Version, you could perhaps reuse some of the logic in the below code.

    Here's the source code to the "Version" class that is implemented by Microsoft for the .NET Framework. https://referencesource.microsoft.com/#mscorlib/system/version.cs,48d7a76144cbabea

    The basic idea is to split the Version string by "dot" and then compare each part of the Version - Major, Minor, Build and Revision.

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
  26. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Yeap, that's what I did some hours again hahaha
    Also finished my first system resources monitor:
    Lan in and out
    Drive C free space
    CPU load
    Ram usage
     
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    Thanks again for the good explanation John :) Don't bother implementing hotkey sync or something like that. It doesn't seem worth it, as you rightly said TS only manages the CPU profile.

    Perhaps, I will give it another try. Btw, the Obsidian skin in TS looks cool

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
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    Dude are you for real?
    I just coded a complex hotkey system... Almost able to replace CCC macro thing hahaha...
     
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    Lol .. Then I have to use it now, right ? :D
    I still have to try and understand how each option in TS works ! I have read that guide here on NBR, however I feel it's a bit outdated and also not very clear on certain aspects.

    Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi @ John@OBSIDIAN-PC
    1) I try to update my P50-RSG laptop Audio driver to 6.0.1.8036 but it shows me this error. How to fix it?
    [​IMG]

    2) Airplane driver has been updated to 1.4.0.4. Does it stable?
     
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    I bought from a partner but they dont support my Clevo P670HS-G like others for the bios but I wanted to stay with them and work something out...could you help me? Thank you so much.
     
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    Yeap I've noticed that, I will have to change that driver.
    For the time being use the one in CLEVO website.
     
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    Awesome piece of software.

    Somehow it's not working for me. I just got the clevo p775DM3-g from a retailer in Europe. I Downloaded the drivers and tried to use the TS with your settings. maybe I'm missing out how to load the profile or something, but the whole computer just freezes. (too little volts maybe)

    Tried a stress test after resetting and now my temps are going to 100 C (before 96) :( . 7700k and 1080 gtx .

    I'm sure I'm just not doing it right :D , any advice ?

    I think my clevo is the version with -100mv undervolt from the bios automatically.
     
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    Open throttlestop or go to the BIOS and set the core voltage offset to -100.

    What we are doing is testing our profile with each unit we sell, if any of them crashes with the voltage set in the profile we will raise it and update the online profile. Sooner or later we will have a profile that fits all units.

    Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Thanks for the reply. If only I would've bought it from you :( . I might still get a refund though :)
     
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    So, the error is caused by incompatible driver? Btw I think u miss my second question. lol
     
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    No, some while back i decided to go Rogue One on the Audio drivers.
    I wanted to be able to always update to the latest Realtek audio without breaking SBX /SBCinema. I did some tests and it was working on the P775DM3-G / P751DM2-G / P870KM1-G / P6x0HS / HP6.
    But i did not have oldest generation units to test it, so i assumed the same method would work and i just did the same for all models.
    Well it seems the method does not work with all models so now i need to revert for those.
     
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    Well, I'm using the TS profile for i7-7700K and it works fine. No freezes, except one time when I was playing and I've unplugged the PC accidentally. A part of that, the TS profile is working very fine.

    I'm getting a maximum of 96 C while playing on Mass Effect Adromeda with the TS profile, while it goes up to 99/100 with stock BIOS with -100mv undervolt. The median temperature of the CPU is around 87 C while playing with Overlock fan speeding and the TS profile active. Not optimal yet, but still it doesn't throttle and that's a good thing.
     
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    I notice the other day that my card reader driver was not installed/detected in the obsidian app. I then proceeded to internally it. After a restart it showed that it was up to date. I was then checking on the drivers again and found that it was not installed/detected again. I went through the install process a couple times and it eventually will disappear. My friend just got a P870KM I noticed he is having the same thing happen but with the Bluetooth driver
     
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    Next couple of days i will re-write the driver detection system.
    No more driverview, i will use same method as i use for chipset and ME.
    Gimme a couple of days to fix that.

    Some units with some power profiles / control center, will disable that hardware so driverview wont find it.
     
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    Hm, is there a way to download the drivers to a usb stick instead of download + install?
     
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    I push the drivers every time there´s a new one, i check almost daily (depending on the work at hands).
    When you download a driver it will stay inside the app folder in the "drivers" folder, unless you changed the "Keep a local copy of Driver Installers" setting.
    After downloading all drivers you can copy the driver folder or even the full app folder to a USB pen.
     
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    Under one click it say "silent install all your driver and reboot when finish"

    Is there an option to download and not install at all?


    Also how do I select the option of Clevo CCC without XTU elements?
     
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    Dont use that ONE CLICK option.
    It will be re-written.
    Download one by one please.
    The default CCC in the app does not include XTU.
     
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    I'm running the app through my desktop since I don't want to connect the laptop to internet yet.

    [​IMG]

    Only give me option to update or install, no download.
     
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    Click "Enable Force Update..."
    then click update in all of the drivers.
    It will download and trigger the installer, cancel the installation.
    Copy the "Drivers" folder to USB pen.
    Done.
     
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    Perhaps you can write a small script that uses REST calls to check if there are newer drivers once a day or so and notify you or even download them. This way you have one less work to worry about ;)
    If you need some help here I can support you, let me know.
     
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    @John@OBSIDIAN-PC Is there any difference between a PREMA modded BIOS and your in-house modded BIOS ? Apart from the arrangement of menus or options I mean.
    I'm curious. If there is actually a difference in functionality then may be I should give it a try.

    @Prema Thanks for your great support to the community :)
     
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    Thanks for this.
     
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