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    CLEVO Drivers Update Utility by OBSIDIAN-PC

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. aIex

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    And it likes to set volume to 0% when using bluetooth speaker.
     
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    Is this still true? Obsidian Tools updates and says the free license is no longer valid (unable to find license) and the link above is 404. Thanks.
     
  3. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    OBSIDIAN TOOLS is dead... Sorry.

    We moved on to new software (Check my Signature).

    Sent from my MI Note 2 using Tapatalk
     
  4. jserio

    jserio Newbie

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    Well, you say "driver updates will remain free" yet I tried the control station update feature and it also requires a license. Is this correct or am I missing something?
     
  5. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Driver updates is no longer free, sorry.
    It was being leeched so much that I would have to rent extra servers or the service would be crap.
    Instead what is free is Control Station (not the app shortcuts in the top of it) and Keyboard LED.
    This was discussed way back...

    Stuff that works offline can remain free, unless they have a cost for me like Fan Control... Which was so complicated that I had to hire external help.

    I wish I was in a position to give away everything for free, unfortunately we are a small company that without income might as well close doors and well... Then there will be no free or paying software.

    I started all this one year ago, I been coding 8h a day... The income from total sales this year barely pays a single monthly wage. I can understand your frustration but trust me when I say that no one gets more frustrated then myself. Developing for such a niche market is a work of passion, not so much of profit.

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  6. philstopford

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    Done, and with the headphones being plugged in the realtek app notes that something was plugged into the audio jack, but testing has no sound through the headphones at all. In the realtek application, the top left dot of the 4 goes black, suggesting that it does see the headphone - the audio never actually seems to arrive, though.

    Since I got this machine second-hand (almost unused), the original vendor offers no support at all (Origin), so if it's a hardware issue, I'll have to live with it.
     
  7. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Yeap, sorry but indeed it seems hardware...

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  8. djsubtronic

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    Hi John, I haven't checked in on this thread in a few days but last few days I've been having strange issues with my audio devices muting themselves randomly. Sometimes even while adjusting the volume up myself. Having just seen your updated changelog from Monday, I am wondering if Control Station is causing this. I don't use 3.5mm headphones, but various bluetooth devices plus the internal speakers, and often the bluetooth headphones will keep auto muting. Would it be possible to add a switch to disable the volume restoring functionality of the app?
     
  9. anytimer

    anytimer Notebook Virtuoso

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    An obscure thing to check - just dig around in the driver settings and make sure that it is not trying to send SPDIF to analog headphones. Weird, but used to happen a lot a few years ago.
     
  10. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Control Station updated to 0.0.25
    - Control Station is now FULLY aware of the audio output name:
    It now allows us to add code for either Realtek Audio (Whatever output) and check if there´s headphones being used with Realtek. This will allow for the Audio Volume memory for Speakers or Headphones.
    If an external Audio output is selected (Monitor Speakers using the NVIDIA device with HDMI/DP for example ) or any other output, it will be treated as another out.

    -We added a REALLY amazing NativeEventFilter which is now a object that emits signals to wherever we need functions to be triggered, this deals with the Post Windows Resume thing, and makes our life A LOT easier moving forward, we can now get this event anywhere in the code and re-run any function with ease.
    Since a lot of the CLEVO problems seem to happen after a Resume this was important for us.
    One of the new features is checking XTU values after resume (for those who use the CPU Tuning tab), since sometimes after a resume values got reset you should click the "Re-Apply on Start" which will check not only on start but also after resume ;)


    As for other apps:
    All apps have now working Shared Memory values, which allows us to GREATLY reduce pooling and lag.

    For instance, imagine i want to add an option for setting Keyboard Color according to CPU or GPU temperature... There is NO WAY i will re-add all the Fan Control code to fetch values, that would be double pooling, double lag, double everything!!
    So, today's update for FanControl (will be released later), will create a shared memory with CPU and GPU Temp and Load. This means that Keyboard LED will have options to change Colors according to the reported Fan Control values.

    Another usage scenario, imagine that you have power modes in Control Station (future feature), i can now add something like this:
    - When you select SILENT Profile you can define that this mode will automatically also set Fan Control to Silent.

    This will probably bring some hate for those who want to use the free stuff without purchasing Fan Control for example, but sacrificing good code and adding extra lag for all my clients and for all who purchased the software is totally unacceptable. So that´s how it is... i will do my best for adding alternative free solutions too.
     
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    @John@OBSIDIAN-PC there is a typo on the "kill throttlestop" button ...throttlestop missing one T :D
     
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    Any luck with having Fan Control kick in before logging in, or does this go in the "don't hold your breath waiting for it" category? No worries either way. Thanks!
     
  13. djsubtronic

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    Hey @John@OBSIDIAN-PC, the latest version of the Control Station is still randomly muting my bluetooth devices, also while I am trying to turn the volume up. Verified by closing it and the problem goes away.
     
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    It would need to run as a service. You can try something like SrvStart
    Alternatively you could run it via Task Scheduler.
     
  15. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Hummm... i will need to create a debug version so that you can test it out.
    That is very weird as it should only do anything when Realtek out is being used!
    I will try to reproduce and get to the bottom of it.

    Today i was doing this:

    [​IMG]

    Next Keyboard LED update:

    - Full RGB color selection
    - Temperature and Load reactive settings with values fetched from Fan Control

    coming soon....
     
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    Still not seeing the Top Case Logo LED control... :( Mine has been lit ever since removing CCC several weeks ago. I really want to be able to turn it off - even more than controlling the colors and all the other 'fun' options. Thanks!
     
  17. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    BTW, is it ONLY setting volume to mute?
    Or is it changing the volume to values other then zero?

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    Please check software update compatibility with MalwareBytes Premium. It allowed deletion of the exe files but blocked creation of new ones so I was left without the required exe files in the Laptop Tools folder. Had to download laptoptoolsfull.zip again.
     
  19. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    So does most of the AV software.
    They block stuff in my software, they block stuff in CC, they block stuff on numerous manufacturers drivers, and so on...
    Basically AV software are the worst virus you can get nowadays...

    Sent from my MI Note 2 using Tapatalk
     
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    Is this utility still licensed by each computer? If I sell an old one and get a new one, shall I buy a new license again?
     
  21. TheChosen0ne

    TheChosen0ne Notebook Guru

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    Hopefully you mean the selling and buying of laptops and not the black market illegal trade of Obsidian Tool that roams the dark web and soon the blockchain..
    But in all seriousness, I think it's a per computer license, but if you need verifying past our own conjecture for the updater or fan control, just ask John.
     
  22. djsubtronic

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    Only mute. Like I can be turning it up, as soon as I hit around 60-70 it will suddenly instantly mute.
     
  23. Danishblunt

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    EDIT: Nvm you fast :3 Waiting for release <3
     
  24. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    License is per laptop, always been... And we always said in the website that it was.
    Sorry if you did not notice it, basically when you sell your old laptop you need to account for that cost.

    Sent from my MI Note 2 using Tapatalk
     
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    Updated Control Station to 0.0.26
    - Trying to solve reported bug where external BT devices got muted - Please test
    - Corrected a Typo in "Kill ThrottleStop" button
     
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    The control station window in 0.0.26 is now huge (and not resizable), it doesn't fit the screen vertically when I'm on default Win10 125% scaling. When i reduce window scaling to 100%, it just about fits the desktop size. I'm using an 1920x1080 panel in a P650 laptop.

    Great software by the way, very impressed.
     
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    Control Station is fine for me at 1440p.
     
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    It's possible that something is wrong with my installation. The last time I used the laptop, Control station window scaling was fine , i think it was version 0.0.24. Fan control, keyboard led , updater are all ok.
     
  29. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    I made no change that can have any effect on that...
    Latest update one changed a single volume mute code line and a text typo.

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    I deleted C:\Program Files\LaptopTools, and re-installed the laptop tool kit, now it's fine - Control station window is normal size again.
     
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    Thank you. This replacement app doesn't have any of the throttling issues associated with the Clevo app correct?
     
  32. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    NO!

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    Hello all

    Just a simple question, I only have Updater license, can i still replace CC with CS? Will fans work "normally" without CC and without Fan Control license?
     
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  34. vIkInG_w0w

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    @John@OBSIDIAN-PC do you have plans for adding "Touchpad On/Off; CAPS On/Off; Auto/Max Fans" etc animations to Control Station just like in CC? That would be very cool!

    Also, I've just switched over to CS and I cannot turn my blue keyboard backlight off. In fact, the KeyboardLED just isn't working for me. But since you now are actively working on KLED now, I can wait for a good version :D
     
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2018
  35. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Yes you can! Yes the fans will work just fine.


    Touchpad On/Off is already part of Control Station.
    Caps On / Off ??? There is a big key for that in your keyboard.
    Fan modes are part of Fan Control software.
     
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    Sorry, I meant the animations that were in the top left corner of the screen that came on for a sec when you disabled/enabled touchpad, caps lock etc.
     
  37. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    That´s probably on of the worst things you can have... it causes A LOT of problems with windows focus / games popping out, etc, i strongly discourage using that type of things.
     
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    Maybe add it as a windows notification?

    Suggestion: add an option to CC to run Fan or LED control as a service?
     
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    Mute bug is still happening :(
     
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    I can't install Nvidia driver on PA71ES-G it says Nvidia driver not compatible.
     
  41. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Can you tell me what BT device you have?
    I just asked for a set of BT speakers to test it out.

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  42. aIex

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    JBL Go in my case. It seems to happen right after you change the volume. If you stop adjusting volume in the right moment it won't mute.
     
  43. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Are you sure you are running the latest Windows 10?
    Have you checking if there are no pending updates?
    If that's not it then it might be because NVIDIA changed the driver package, and some models require a different GPU driver which is usually only available by installing with NVIDIA Experience.
    We already fixed that in all 8th Gen models, for those the updater will send out the new driver package. I was unaware that the PA71ES was also affected by this, but if indeed you have the latest Windows 10 build then it might be the case.
     
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    And how are you changing the volume? Using Control Station, using Windows audio icon in the system tray or using some type of volume control in the device?
     
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    I have the latest semi-annual windows updates and it doesn't work, but I figured out a work around you could install the drivers if you update using device manager.
     
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    Using:
    Bose Soundtouch 10 (speaker)
    B&W PX (headphones)

    Would really be awesome if you could just add a switch somewhere to disable the mute check, cuz it's really horrible experience for me right now :(
     
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    I will add temporary switches for disabling each of sound related functions...
    This way you can test each switch and report back which solved it...
    I will upload Monday... Today I spent all day working on the big next update for Keyboard LED, it's coming along really great ;)

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  48. aIex

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    Windows Volume icon, shortcut, on the speaker itself.
     
  49. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Ok I'll post a test version Monday.

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  50. aIex

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    The way the volume changes is similar to connecting headphones. It waits about 1 second and then sets itself to 0%.
     
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