CeBIT 2009 News & Pics - Clevo booth - D900F, M980NU, etc.

Xir maybe you can ask them if they are planning on implementing the gtx 280 cards in the d901c?

 

that is a very good question.

 

so they either gave some more around the bush answering, don't really know what the end product is going to look like or it really took up a whole laptop to re wire the hdmi/esata...interesting....lol

thanks again for asking the hard questions!!

good question here.

 

Actually,I know the answer of that question even w/o asking...I accidentally overheard their conversation first time I was there...but I don't think I ll tell you

 

I can guess....

only a single GTX 280 may be possible if the power requirements are too high.

 

sli will not be available with any cards that are 75w. it is kind of a no-brainer. a 130w cpu and 150 watts (75w each) for the gpu's is already way way way above the thermal budget of the d900.

 

WoW,you nearly guessed it!

Anyway,those are his almost_exact words-

"D901C can support to 2x 280 only w/ some modifications in cooling and power sections.However,I am not sure that we will offer even 1 card option,since it will hurt D900f and M980NU sales"

 

I had a leak from a Clevo insider that told me this... guess he was right.

 

Isn't the 9800m gtx 75 watts? You can get those in SLI.

 

yeah, they both are 75 watts. and if you run a dual core it fits into their thermal budget. but since they are trying to push the new models, they will try to neglect the older ones. and they would also have to make it a regular mxm3.0 and not just a mxm 3.0 type b.

edit: retested it. forgot it was running a quad and not a dual core. at dual core it netted a 10,347@ 585/950/1463 where the gtx280m got a 11,767

 

Has anyone asked them if/when the M860TU will get the GTX 260?

 

Omg, do you want them to lose sales on the D900F? LOL.

 

Hmmm..., I think the two products might just have different markets.

 

Eurocom may be backing off the SLI config for the D900F. I just love the looks of the M980NU
http://www.eurocom.com/products/future/specselectfuture.cfm?model_id=202

http://www.eurocom.com/products/future/specselectfuture.cfm?model_id=204

 

just waiting on confirmation if this thing will be fully over clock able.

 

Yeah, if the M98 is Overclockable....Mmmmmmm

It's a very purdy 18.4" chassis.

 

i believe those are 45 watts, like the 7950gtx. the 8800 gtx is 35 watts.

 

Manufacturer NVIDIA
Series GeForce GTX 200M
Codename NB9E-GTX
Pipelines 128 - unified
Core Speed * 585 MHz
Shader Speed * 1463 MHz
Memory Speed * 950 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3
Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 4.0
SEEMS TO BE MISSING FROM THEM BUT IS 75 WATTS AS WELL
Transistors 754 Million
technology 55 nm
Features HybridPower, PureVideo HD, CUDA, PhysX ready
Notebook Size large
Date of Announcement 02.03.2009
Information MXM 3

Manufacturer NVIDIA
Series GeForce 9000M
Codename NB9E-GTX
Pipelines 112 - unified
Core Speed * 500 MHz
Shader Speed * 1250 MHz
Memory Speed * 800 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3
Max. Amount of Memory 1024 MB
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 4.0
Power Consumption 75 Watt
Transistors 754 Million
technology 65 nm
Features HybridPower, PureVideo HD, CUDA, PhysX ready
Notebook Size large
Date of Announcement 15.07.2008
Information MXM 3

Manufacturer NVIDIA
Series GeForce Go 7000
Codename G71M
Pipelines 24 / 8 Pixel- / Vertexshader
Core Speed * 575 MHz
Shader Speed * 575 MHz
Memory Speed * 700 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3
Max. Amount of Memory 512 MB
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 9c, Shader 3.0
Power Consumption 45 Watt
Transistors 278 Million
technology 90 nm
Features HDR, Intellisample 4.0, UltraShadow II, PureVideo, CineFX 4.0, PowerMizer 6.0, Transparency Antialiasing
Notebook Size large
Date of Announcement 12.10.2006
Information 90nm, 278 Mio transistors, MXM-Module, Drivers are available at nvidia.com

Manufacturer NVIDIA
Series GeForce 8000M
Codename NB8E
Pipelines 96 - unified
Core Speed * 500 MHz
Shader Speed * 1250 MHz
Memory Speed * 800 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR3
Max. Amount of Memory 512 MB
Shared Memory no
DirectX DirectX 10, Shader 4.0
Power Consumption 65 Watt
Transistors 754 Million
technology 65 nm

 

it will...

 

That pic is old right? The model now as different keyboard, a la Vayo....

 

^yes,new keyboard is sony/apple style

 

hmm, all of a sudden the 8800m gtx is 65w? through my obersvations and reading when purchased the system in 2008 the 8800m cards were 35 watts.

 

That quote sounds like they are going to offer it with 2 graphics cards. Specifically when it says "However,I am not sure that we will offer even 1 card option". I am may be reading that wrong, but it sounds like they intend to make it sli capable. Is anyone else reading it like that too?

 

Well pardon me if i'm mistaken but from my way of interpreting the whole 1st phrase, it sound more like ''there are complications and additional modification required in order for D901/900C to support GTX 280M either SLI or single''. As for the 2nd phrase, it sound like ''they might not even offer the support for GTX 280M on D900/901C afterall as by doing so it will directly affect the marketing power of D900F and M980NU sales''.

 

I agree with antarius

 

I, too, would agree with antarius - the D901/900C model is more or less in its final state now, and I would not expect them to sacrifice scarce R'n'D funds or resources on making more modifications/upgrades to the D901/900C, not the least because it would make their newest systems weaker than they could be (not enough research) and would be competing directly with their own products (which would make it harder to show an adequate profit out of the new systems since the development/design costs of those systems have to be amortized against the income generated from sales of those systems).

 

It's listing the BIOS as a Phoenix branded BIOS. If i'm right, Phoenix doesn't usually allow overclocking in it's BIOS software, if at all (and it's usually the most restricted in overall options in general).

 

hmmmm......
the keyboard is not nice.too much space wasted.And 18.4 inch is toooo much for a notebook.

I would like the thickness of the M980NU with a full standard keyboard Sony style on a 17 inch chasis and additionally with the 2 best GPU in SLI and i7.....Can anybody get me such a notebook?


I repeat with the same thickness

And anyway.Why do they waste spaces in such a horrible way.Who needs 3 hard-drives??? USe spaces and hardware allocations more wisely next time CLEVO

 

has nothing to do with power, but has all to do with going up against their current new models and having a very good chance at beating them both. a d901c can be run with a dual core remember. and dual cores are far lower in tdp than a quad@95 watts or an extreme@130 watts

not to mention they would need to make it mxm 3 and not 3.0 type b.


can't see how power comes into play unless they are telling stories and it's not 75 watts but in fact far more per card. and that heat sink is the same exact heat sink the 9800m gtx uses..don't see any high tech new design there. and it looks to be the same exact fan as well.



take a close look at that heat sink (gtx280m) for the m980nu, it's the same exact thing.

so im not sure who they are trying to fool with this....
but that's what i got out of the whole thing.

 

I don't know why they would waste time releasing a 18.4" notebook when they could have a 17" notebook with the core i7 processor and dual video cards. I know I wouldn't purchase a 18.4" over a 17" notebook. It's a waste of money and time imo. They could have spent the money making a new chassis for the D900f + making it in SLI, would have been cheaper for them instead of making both a new 17" and 18.4" notebook.

 

I can see why ones would want nothing more than a 17" but I think BOTH of these units will be a great success sales wise. Since both of these are large desktop replacements by no means typical, the 18.4 has the entertainment/multimedia edge and the other more of a CPU app edge. There is a market for both imo.

 

market for both...yes.... but if they don't perform on par or better than current models....doomed to far surpass sales of older models

 

Yeah but I'm saying, why not just make 1 model. Make the d900f with a new chassis and have it with both core i7 cpu and dual video cards. It would have both instead of making a HUGE 18.4 and an updated d901c (with 1 gpu). I don't think most ppl here would choose the 18.4 over the 17" if both had dual gpu's, would you? If you look at the side by side comparison pictures, the 18.4" looks HUGE compared to the 17". I remember looking at the D901c last year when I bought my M1730 and saying to myself, "That notebook is HUGE" now I can only imagine how big that 18.4" is. A notebook over 17" is really unappealing to me and I think Clevo made a mistake especially if they made this model JUST to compete with that crappy W90 Asus notebook.

 

i dont think so because both models are very powerfull machines and like all Clevo high-end laptops they will be upgradeable in the future only for this reason that they are new and upgradeable many people will buy them

 

they wanted two...one for each platform.
desktop & mobile.
that's why....

 

very true JOHN i dont think that they maked mistake with M980NU this is Desktop replacement its not laptop that you can take with you everywhere and run it on battery

 

they are trying, remember the m980nu has 3 vga cards. 2 9800m gtx or 2 gtx280m's and a 9400m card....

 

Well it seems most of you here would rather have the D900f with two gpu's instead of the 18.4" if we had that choice.

 

hold on there speed racer!

i would rather have the 18.4, 3 gpu's 3 hard drives and full over clocking than to have a i7 with one gpu and 3 hard drives and no over clocking....

(still have a lot of speculating going on though. the finished product has yet to debut)

 

I would rather have the 18.4 if overclocking is available too!

 

But you would rather have the D900f if it had the dual GPU's and the core i7 right? I would!

 

Not me, I want the bigger screen. I can drag an 18.4" DTR anywhere I can drag a 17"one so given the choice between the 2 I'll take the 18.4" one any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

 

John 3 gpu's? Hah I would rather have that then if it had 3 gpu's lol Screw the size and weight

 

Travesty, did you ever own a 17" gaming notebook before? I have the Dell 1730 and let me tell you, a 17" is big enough as it is being a notebook.

 

ok, maybe if it had dual gpu's and over clocking, i would stick with the 17 incher.
but on the mobile platform...more room for over clocking.
so if there is not over clocking.... we would be stuck
and clevo is real good at keeping people out of that. still to date, no one has been able to fsb or bios over clock a d901c

it does have 3 gpus
the 9400m is on the side with the keyboard.
right next to the ram

 

Did the people at Cebit say anything about the M98 and any overclocking options? The W90 offers overclocking , so it would be ideal for clevo to offer it on their 18.4 model.

 

so far it's all hush hush about over clocking..why? i have no clue, but if they expect to catch any of these other models...they better sure get with the program....(personal opinion only)

 

yep M980NU have to be overclockable because i dont see how they can make D900F overclockable and atleast one of these beast must have OC option
if they make it M980NU will be perfect for all gamers over D900F only one thing is there that i dont like it have only two RAM slots

 

The M98 should surpass the below specs from the Asus W90 if it overclocks, ahh wonderful indeed!!

 

Can someone explain the 3 gpu's in the M98? Sort of confused on this. It has 2 gtx 280M's and 1 9400m? What is the 9400M used for?