Clevo + Ryzen: possible?

Those people tend to want the best performance possible too, most of them are gamers and the Intel will show better numbers.

 

True, they are the niche but from what I have seen and I can be entirely wrong, it tends to be for a single game at a time.

Main reason I wanted more multithread is to play more than one game at a time. I used to try to play siege alongside Black Desert Online but the CPU usage is full tilt (when I had an SFF desktop). GPU is too naturally which is why VRAM is a concern. If my memory is correct my friends 4790k @ 4.7 hits about 80-85% usage in Siege alone, mine is full tilt but an explanation is hardly needed for that (DD in the sig).

Ive been really curious about Game development as well, though I have no knowledge of it, I figure though that you cant really develop a game and test it if you dont have the hardware requirements to begin with. I could just build a desktop for sure, and cheaper but I like being able to put my setup in a back pack. Makes things much easier for air travel...

EDIT: Guess my desire in a future laptop is niche in a niche. Im wiling to accept that lol.

 

One thing they could work on is better core scheduling to get around the overclocking/power issue. While overclocking all cores to 4ghz gives you a boost overall, it's mostly done to make up for the generally low clock and single-thread performance.
In reality, you probably don't have to clock ALL 8 cores up to 4Ghz to see benefits where it really matters. ie. in the very few games that are heavily CPU bottle-necked, they would scale better if you only have to OC 3-4 of the cores and make sure the scheduler prioritises those cores to get the benefit.

Now that the rest of NBC review of the GL702ZC is up there's a few things of note:

• CPU temps are looking decent. 88C core max with Furmark and Prime95. That cpu temp may also be further let down by the RX580 and shared heatpipes (similar to how the P650HS 1070 suffers due to the joint heatpipe)
• Idle power consumption is rubbish. Even compared to Intel LGA chips. This is probably made worse by the RX580 as well. They really need to get that down to 30W to come close to a P700 type machine.
• Load power is all over the place. The median power consumption of 125W looks extremely good (doesn't mention it, but the median is usually Witcher3 testing). But then the max recorded is 240W. Furthermore the power pack supplied is 330W which seems like a huge over-estimation by Asus.

I think it could easily be tamed in a P700 chassis as it stands (for cooling) and probably allow some OC headroom.

 

Finally added it to the database : https://noteb.com/?model/model.php?conf=10080209225717999616&ex=USD

Prices will get updated tomorrow. The notebookcheck review indicates Ryzen is under performing in notebooks, probably due to poorer cooling, making it slightly slower overall than the 7700K. Still for the price I think it will be a very good deal, but they should have priced it more aggressively.

- battery life is non-existent
- RX 580 performance similar to the GTX 1060 but at much higher power consumption and heat generation
- the only advantage is the Ryzen CPU, which indeed runs circles around the 7700HQ , but doesn't really give that much of an advantage for gaming. I would say the pricing for this model should have been around $1200 , not $1500 .

 

And that's the rub with creating such a machine.

 

Yeah its definitely nice to have the option but its less than ideal with a few of its attributes a bit lacking.

How fast can we get the memory working on it?
Why 4GB on the RX 580?
Any chance of overclocking CPU/GPU?

Is 32GB the max of B350 or is that just for the laptop?

 

Ryzen and Vega will get 12 nm versions in 2018
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-and-Vega-will-get-12-nm-versions-in-2018.249690.0.html

 

Not too surprising if a new process becomes available, it's usually a no brained decision in a competitive market.

 

They will have to to keep up momentum. Ryzen was a great start back into being more competitive. Vega was decent as well. Now they need to keep it going.

 

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170927PD212.html

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-pinnacle-ri...y-am4-picasso-apu-succeeding-raven-ridge/amp/

 

I hope the back and forth pressure continues

 

I'm still waiting Clevo

 

Once a chip makes sense then I am sure they would be interested.

 

May be 12nm Ryzen 2? It should come next february

 

That's not the problem, the majority of ODMs have been interested for a long time. It's not Clevo we are waiting on @sicily428 ... we're waiting on AMD to provide the necessary support as I mentioned on page 1 of this thread - nothing has changed since then unfortunately.

 

Wow! I did not know it it is still the problem

 

The how did asus go about it then? Custom built from scratch?

 

Likely got reached out to a single partner to come up with something.

 

Oh ok so no direct help from AMD but like another company such as asrock as an example.

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By AMD I mean so they had a device to show off.

 

Please see my posts on page 2 of this thread onwards, starting with the below ;-) At the time I knew exactly what was going to happen and with whom, but couldn't say it definitively in public as I'd have got into trouble...so instead I did my best to advise what 'could' happen.

 

Yes I remember
this was my question

That A was for Asus

Now there is a new important step with raven ridge. That could change something in term of support for mobile platforms?

 

Hope to see it happen. AMD should return to laptop market with Ryzen and Vega. Intel and NVidia dominate laptop market is not a good thing.

 

I could see a Ryzen APU doing well, Vega, maybe a refresh, not the current chips.

 

Ryzen 2 supported on AM4 confirms AMD product manager

https://m.hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/112796-ryzen-2-supported-am4-confirms-amd-product-manager/

 

I believe they did commit from the beginning on that one, it should help with their rollout going forward.

 

Yes they did. That was one of their selling points. Pretty neat.

 

Did they say it would go beyond that or are we only looking at 2 generations?

 

I believe the intention is to beyond that but nothing set in stone.

 

They put a date on it, at least a year, 2020, IDK how many CPU updates they can fit in in 3 years... 3??

 

More would definitely be nice, not having to change several components every time you update one.

 

At least a full generation beyond Ryzen should be covered past refresh if they hold to it.

 

IIRC it should affect both Ryzen+ for next year and Ryzen 2 within the 2020 deadline.

 

AMD Ryzen 2 Set For March 2018 Launch On 12nm – To Support Higher Core & Memory Clock Speeds
https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-2-set-march-2018-launch-12nm-support-higher-core-memory-clock-speeds/

 

Fake AMD Ryzen 2800X 12 Core 5.1GHz Slide Sends Media Into Frenzy
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-387#post-10645820

 

If we can see a 10% bump in clocks with reasonable power they will have done very well.

 

Some on OCN are hoping for 4.5Ghz overclock on Zen+ and 5.0Ghz on Zen 2

Who knows though...Would be nice if it worked out like that.

 

If they can close the gap on single threaded performance it becomes even more compelling that's for sure.

 

Yes quite true.

If Zen 2 can hit 5Ghz, then it might be suitable for 4.0Ghz on a laptop but like all things time will tell. In the mean time Ill just continue experimenting with my own 4930mx in trying to get a 4.5Ghz daily OC.

 

That's a big daily clock for that chip, good luck

 

Thanks ill need it lol

 

I found 3.9/4.0 to be where the power curve starts getting really nasty.

 

Considering that we have machines such as the Asus ROG Strix GL702ZC surfacing with the Ryzen 7 1700, this is a feasible question.

Even with the potentially anemic cooling and build quality that Asus is known for, the SKU above has shown promising results especially on the processor performance front, offering a significant performance gain for multi-threaded workloads over the i7 7700k.

Imagine what a company such as Clevo would achieve with Ryzen's desktop processors paired with top of the line NVIDIA GPUs. Were such a configuration possible, any Clevo reseller would gladly take my money.

The current flagship on AMD's front, the RX 580 for laptops, is at best equivalent to the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060, which presents a favorable proposition for a mainstream gaming experience on potential Clevo systems that may bear wither desktop or mobile Ryzen processors.

 

I would love to see Ryzen 2700 10 cores @ 4.5GHz (stock) on a Clevo Laptop . I've seen a few Clevo Laptops with desktop i7 7700 + GTX 1050 for like $1000 at my local store (mouse computer - Japan)
So Ryzen 2700 + Volta GTX 1150ti / 2050ti for $1200 please ! , it's not impossible , right ?
Also , AMD has just confirmed Ryzen 2 now , it will be released on Q1 2018
https://www.techpowerup.com/239659/...ebut-in-q1-2018?amp&__twitter_impression=true

 

Source Wccftech...bleh

I still want RX MXM3.0b GPU's

 

AMD has confirmed it at a press event ... Unless you don't know how to read (no offence)

 

I didnt say it was fake or false, but thanks for potentially attributing that to me.

I just displayed my dislike for wccftech, which is the source of the article.

 

Nope, Clevo isn't Intel exclusive in terms of what it may wish to do, or is potentially capable of doing. Please see my below post which links to my comments on page 2 of this thread;-) the conversation continued on page 48 of thie thread.

 

no news?