Clevo + Ryzen: possible?

It scores around 10% less in firestrike graphics than the 1050.

 

My estimates place it at 6-7% less than the 1050. Mind you, the rx 460 also is coupled with a much slower CPU.

 

It should not impact the graphics score much though.

 

COMPUTEX 2017 | First Ryzen laptop is Asus's ROG Strix G702ZC
https://www.notebookcheck.net/First-Ryzen-laptop-is-Asus-s-ROG-Strix-G702ZC.224692.0.html

Asus has unveiled the world's first Ryzen-powered notebook, the ROG Strix G702ZC. The laptop is 17.3-inches, supports FreeSync 2.0, and is powered by a Ryzen 7 1700 8-core CPU and a Radeon RX580 GPU.

 

Yuck! Why don't they just use Nvidia GPU with Ryzen ? Less power = less heat
RX580 doesn't sound cheap either. The last one from Dell is extremely underwhelming and overpriced !

 

Likely so they got more engineering help from AMD.

 

so now clevo+ryzen becomes possible?

 

It's never been a question about possibility but viability.

 

amd chose asus. now is amd ryzen an asus exclusive?

 

I wouldn't say that AMD is exclusive with ASUS, I'm not privy to the details of their relationship.......but yes it may have been ASUS that I was hinting at in my post - obviously at the time I couldn't give any more details.

 

That Asus has AM4 socket?......

 

Yes, I remember that A brand laptop manufacturer

why they choose Asus? I read somewhere that Asus makes 4 millions laptops in 3 months. is it?

could you make a top ten of laptop manufactures?

is asus bigger than lenovo? compal? quanta? dell?

 

Asus already have a lot of clout on the desktop with them and experience. They sell the highest end Ryzen board, the hero 6.

 

Well the bga type only mentioned up to 4 "zen" cores according to the roadmap below

 

Ryzen 7 1700 is a summit ridge cpu

CPU
summit ridge and pinnacle ridge 8cores cpus should have an AM4 uPGA
APU
bristol rigde and raven ridge 4cores apus should have an AM4 uPGA

there are also 4core bga raven ridge apus

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-talks-up-Ryzen-Mobile-showcases-more-laptops.224814.0.html

COMPUTEX 2017 | AMD talks up Ryzen Mobile, showcases more laptops

AMD gave a few more details on its future plans for Ryzen-powered laptops, including 2-in-1, thin-and-light, gaming, and consumer form-factors. Two new AMD-powered (FX, not Ryzen) laptops from Acer and Dell were also showcased.

AMD's much awaited Ryzen platform has been out for around 3 months now, but it was only yesterday that the first Ryzen-powered laptop, the Asus ROG Strix GL702ZC, was revealed. Today at Computex, the Taiwanese company revealed more AMD-powered notebooks and shared more about their ambitions for the mobile platform in 2018.

While the first machines to use Ryzen have been rather large gaming-focused laptops, AMD is not stopping there: thin and light, consumer, and 2-in-1 convertibles are also on the docket. Ryzen is touting On-Die "Vega" Graphics coming to mobile PCs in the second half of 2017 through the first half of 2018.

The two additional AMD-powered laptops don't use Ryzen, but instead AMD FX APUs (AMD refers to CPUs with on-die graphics as APUs). Photos of the Acer Nitro 5 and Dell inspiron Gaming 15 are available below.

 

Its important to first understand how the laptop chassis ODM market works, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_laptop_brands_and_manufacturers - note Pegatron and Foxconn regarding ASUS. Compal and Quanta are the two big players.

ASUS have long standing and strong relationship with AND through desktop and other business.

 

39.3 millions for Compal, 31.6 millions for Quanta, 18.8millions for Winstron.
So I finally know these Big Three of Laptops

 

Six-core Ryzen 5 1600 and the quad-core Ryzen 3 1200 are coming




Ryzen comes to gaming laptops in the ROG Strix GL702ZC
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The Republic of Gamers has been working with AMD for more than a decade. Our very first product, the original Crosshair motherboard, was designed for Athlon 64 FX processors. But we’ve never made a gaming laptop with an AMD CPU—until now. The new ROG Strix GL702ZC marries the latest Ryzen processors with Radeon RX 580 graphics to create a portable gaming machine with versatile horsepower.

A new Strix Ryzen
Few processors were more anticipated than AMD’s Ryzen series. Based on an all-new Zen microarchitecture, the chips took the market by storm earlier this year and haven’t let up since. Their strong multithreaded performance is prized by power users for providing enough oomph for simultaneous gaming and streaming, or more productive pursuits, like content creation and heavy multitasking.

The jewel of the lineup is the Ryzen 7 CPU, which crams a whopping eight cores onto a single chip. Each core can execute two threads in parallel, yielding a staggering 16 logical processors in the Windows Task Manager. Most desktops can’t compete with that kind of power, let alone laptops.

To be fair, the Strix GL702ZC is practically a desktop under the hood. The top configuration comes with a Ryzen 7 1700 CPU based on the exact same silicon as current desktop parts. Variants of the laptop will also be available with the six-core Ryzen 5 1600 and the quad-core Ryzen 3 1200. Overclocking isn’t supported, though.

 

I hope AMD make a strong impression, looking at that then it's what I expected.

 

bump anyone knows any release dates?

 

In Europe mid July at 2000 euros the R7 1700 version with GPU RX 580, 16gb ram, 256 sdd, 1GB hdd.

This is a dream laptop for content creation and very cheap. F... Clevo and their loyalty to intel. With the same money you buy half the cpu cores and same graphics performance with Nvidia 1060.

 

Clevo is not loyal to Intel.

They have had AMD hardware before. It is just a matter of design, and contracts before AMD appears in Clevo machines. Also remember, Clevo is an OEM/ODM computer manufacturer, which sells its machines to laptop resellers around the world, mostly barebone machines that is.

 

Ι hope so... But for now Asus rocks !

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With max Turbo boost lower than the fully locked down 7700Hq. Damn nice in single threaded games and applications. What a dream processor!!

 

That's overpriced , not cheap at all . Are they planning to compete GTX 1080 laptop at that price range ? (2300USD)
This GTX 1070 120Hz G-Sync laptop is way cheaper and run cooler ...

 

For multithreading applications is a killer machine in mobile form Factor. The 7700hq just sucking it as for the 1080 in Europe you need almost 3000 euros for a 1080 gpu based system. With 2000 you buy max 1060 GPU and intel 7700hq.

 

You've got that right

But, to be fair, Asus has always Rocked

There are some exceptions, design booboo's, or just unlucky parts selections where 3rd party's software and hardware just doesn't work right, audio, wifi, etc. But all vendors have had similar problems with the same parts.

There are times where Asus hits things just right where their awesome technical designs hit with good parts, assembly, and QA, and then they seemingly can do no wrong.

Even the Zephyrus is stellar engineering effort, it's just too bad it was saddled with an expensive halo GPU with the 1080. A 1070 full power version would have been another time things would have all clicked.

Maybe that will happen with the Ryzen RX and Ryzen Vega, and Ryzen APU(?) laptops as a solid full coverage range of performance laptops with AMD parts.

 

And has half the multiprocessing power.... Of the ryzen based laptop.

 

And much lower power consumption, AMD are great until you worry about performance per watt.

 

Nah, stick with the 6/8 core Ryzen, much better, cheaper, and has a future.

The Intel 4 cores are going the way of the DoDo Bird...

 

I'm sure it will draw far less power than a 7700K+1080 in a Clevo

 

Soon we will see more 8core laptops in the market combined with Vegas and Nvidia GPUs. That will stick it in Intel's ahole and they maybe make a new mobile Multi core chipset that can compete 8 core ryzen at 65w who knows....

For now that ryzen 8core laptop is the only alternative for a mobile content creation machine.

Intel fans should say thanks and they have to be happy and grateful to AMD because AMD is the reason that they will get cheaper greater performance from intel too. So negativity about ryzen is not necessary.

 

Different class of machine for a different market.

Also the 580 desktop draws about as much as the desktop 1080 so don't be too sure.

 

It won't be long before we find out, with the Asus Ryzen / RX laptop's coming soon, hopefully closely followed by laptop's Vega GPU's, maybe a flagship with Crossfire too

 

Am I missing something here ? 2000 euros is 2300USD , right ?
2000 euros for a GTX 1060 laptop is outright insane . You should contact XMG - a clevo reseller in europe, they could ship one for you for less money
Their GTX 1060 laptops are being sold at 1300 euros ...
https://www.mysn.de/xmg-pro-gaming-laptops/xmg-p507-kbl

 

The price + VAT + almost 60 to 100 euros postage.

XMG P707 PRO 17.3" Gaming Laptop 2017 with almost the same configuration but with an 4 core cpu costs 2100 euros.


If you go with an msi 17.3" with the same configuration it costs 2380 euros so is far cheaper the ACER G9-793-78DV 17.3'' costs 2300euros


Anyway 8 core cpu is more important for content creators like me than GPU... and that Asus laptop is so cheap for an 8 core branded laptop I repeat 8 CORES. Some are saying that the price would be 1850 to 2000 euros so is a killer 8 core mobile system and is super cheap.

 

Bought a used p157sm, didnt want to wait anymore

 

Don't forget that if you order from us but are outside of Europe then you don't pay the 19% German sales tax which is included in all the website prices. But you will have to pay your local sales tax on import, just ask if me if there are any questions regarding this

 

I am in Europe so I have to pay VAT. The problem is that you do not have an 8 core model or an equivalent in performance at the moment. When you will have one available in your product line with the right price we will reconsider.

Thanks.

 

Ryzen Mobile will be amazing. Especially for people like me. A full amd laptop is what everyone needs

 

Asus has ALWAYS rocked?!? Their customer service sucks. It is what led me to the Sager/Clevo line.

I bought a top-of-the-line, 17 inch Asus i7-920 when it first came out. I had nothing but problems with the system and had to RMA it 4 times. The first RMA came back after 4 weeks and wasn't fixed. Next one was 8 weeks and when it arrived, it hadn't been touched - I had put tape in places that would indicate that they had taken it apart. NOPE! 3rd time, it was RMA'd, it took 6 weeks to get back to me, they had changed the MB but when I put my drive back in, it wasn't recognized. It didn't recognize ANY hd I put into it. I contacted them and told them that the system is still no good. Guess what? They tried to tell a former Seagate Hardware Engineer that he didn't know ANYTHING about hard drives. *sigh* I shipped it back to them, bought an Alienware and when the system came back from Asus, I sold it on ebay , as is. I haven't looked back.

Asus gave me numerous run-arounds, transferred me to a supervisor's extension that did nothing but ring for 2 hours non-stop and continued to try to say things were fine when they were not. I used to recommend Asus to everyone but after that run around, I tell people that if they buy Asus that they never have to deal with their customer "service". I won't even consider them anymore.

 

Hey, good job continuing on getting the word out you got lousy service from Asus. I'm happy I could provide you an opportunity to do so.

You do realize that an i7-920 is an Intel CPU? It's not an Asus product name or model number. It's also a desktop CPU, I don't think I've seen an Asus laptop with an i7-920 desktop CPU.

The i7-920 was released in 2008, so that's 9 years ago now.

Maybe you should sit down and take a few minutes, remember the details a bit better, write them down and keep them with you so you have them handy next time you want to share your bad experience with Asus.

I've had Asus laptops since before 2008, and have only had 1 needing RMA, and it took 1 week for the repair - waiting for a new GPU - and it worked fine ever since. It was an Asus G2s, also from 2008.

Maybe after all these years it's time to let go of the anger, we all have bad experiences and it's best to make peace with them and live a happy and joyous life - holding onto grudges and the anger that comes from them is a good way to get an ulcer.

Have a nice day.

 

Its safe to say he meant the 920mx. Laptops back then were all pretty hot running though, consequence of the era and not really individual companies, except for maybe Acer lol.

Regardless, I never personally like Asus but that was just because of lack of upgradeability despite having standardized ports. Otherwise they were nice laptops, I enjoyed the G53 I had until the power cable melted into the laptop. The G46vw was also nice but brother unfortunately got it stolen. That and I never understood why they didnt have air intake holes, maybe they changed that recently though...

 

That's why I suggested he sit down and get the details of his story straight, so he has an actual Asus Model number next time he wants to vent his anger.

How else are we supposed to decide whether his situation is pertinent to us today? Is he trying to help warn us off of a current issue in progress, or is he talking about ancient history that has no bearing on us today?

Is it an 8 year old grudge against Asus, or just a 3 year old one?

Either way, it's a waste of time for everyone (this isn't the topic of the thread), people have sad customer service stories about every laptop maker.

We could waste hours discussing who is the worst (Alienware / Razer) and who is the best (no one) at customer service.

Please let's just drop it and get back to the topic of Ryzen in laptops, and will Clevo ever get one

 

Oh for sure, sorry, Ive been short on sleep for 4 days and just woke up after sleeping like 18 hours lol

I had been quite interested in the Ryzen 7 laptop, but I grow tired of waiting and my m4600 is aging quite a bit now. I bought a used p157sm as a stop gap until we get more solid options in the future.

 

I got it for pre order...

 

A good one would certainly be nice for all consumers.

 

This happened the 920mx. Sorry, I wasn't clearer but I still get pissed off about the way I was treated by Asus. I would rather never hear their name again.

Actually, I could provide exact details including the name of the person at Asus on the "Executive Support Team" whom kept promising the world to me and then not backing it up.

I DO hold grudges though. I fully admit it. I refuse to fly UAL because something Continental Airlines did to me back in 1983 - pulled us (my sister and I) off the flight after we had been seated at Sky Harbor because my biological father forgot to sign 1 place in the 10 that was required for unaccompanied minors. They gave us our bags and had us stand for 14 hours without being allowed to use the phone or help with getting something to eat, etc. Then, when my Mom was at the airport to pick us up in DC, she found out how we were pulled off the flight, etc. If the airline HAD made a single phone call on our behalf, it would have been taken care of and we wouldn't have had to sit without food that long nor had to just sit with our bags with nowhere to go.

Anyhow, I would love to see a Ryzen-powered Clevo. I ordered and built a 1700X-based system the first week they were out. The Ryzen gives a lot more bang for the buck than any Intel offering.

 

it's your right to hold it back to Asus or to the airline.

I am more than 25 years in the computing industry but I want to say that I had similar issues with HP and Dell and many other companies.

That means nothing especially when all that happened many years ago companies are emerging and change through the years and usually for my experience they get better.

A single or some incidents are not the best criteria to make a final verdict for a full brand and its products and support.

This Asus laptop maybe as the first one of its kind with a ryzen desktop cpu will have issues but maybe not. We are not sure till we try it in heavy workloads. At the moment is the only way to have a true 8 core mobile workstation otherwise you need to make a industrial 17.3" portable computer that fits desktop parts that will be heavier and less mobile.

Personally from Asus I have good experiences (not the best in all products) but in general is ok as a company and makes products that last in time. The support in Europe in general is fine.