Clevo 2020

not at all. gt76 actually has decent cooling where as this more like half done.

 

? The GT76 is entirely disappointing on many levels, temps is one of them.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-G...of-Gaming-Laptops.425043.0.html#toc-emissions
86C GPU, 95C CPU at stock 4.7Ghz... not the heavily advertised "5ghz" and no headroom to reach it.
Tom's has the underside reaching 58C after half an hour of Metro Exodus which is extremely hot.
It seems to me that given the CPU yawns along at 60C while gaming, they should have gone with a unified setup after all.
And even with all that, gaming performance is well down on even the 51M due to Optimus.

 

temp is one thing, doesnt mean they dont have much bigger heatsink and dissipation.

im sure if gt76 falls into any of the enthusiasts hand (delid, undervolt, silicon lottery chip), it'll do better than clevo's machine with 8 cores.

strangely enough i am totally fine with optimus lol wouldnt even care if i lose 20% fps i cant tell difference anyway.

 

10% is about what humans can perceive in fps change typically.

 

depends on the fps number

 

I think if dgpu's can turn on selected EUs instead of powering on the entire GPU die (or have some sort of hotplug mechanism by having the cores on enhanced sleep state), the battery life can be improved quite a lot. Technically, I believe it could have already been thought about but not implemented because of certain restrictions.

 

how well does the clevo p775tm 8700k 1080 cool? is it worth picking up a used one for $1500.00??

 

any help on this is greatly appreciated

 

thats a pretty sweet bargain if fully functional. a 1080 gpu by itself is already close to 1k

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At stock it should run fine, but you will definitely be able to get it running cooler by repasting and delidding the CPU. 8700Ks aren't too hot compared to the 9900K.

 

it said it was delided undervolted and overclocked 4.8 can this be OC higher? is the 330w brick enough power? Not a lot of info on these models for some reason. My concern was if the cooling solution works. if both the cpu and gpu are overclocked I imagine it gets quite hot

 

You can find answers to your questions in owners lounge.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-sager-np9175-clevo-p775tm-owners-lounge.809621/

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The standard brick will be fine, they will happily draw upto 400W without any issues, but you will rarely even draw over 300W in normal use or gaming.

 

so Im guessing the whole 2 brick thing is for sli models only?

 

Correct, either that or extreme overclocking. The 980 in my P870 is a little more power hungry than the 1080, and my 7700K is pretty heavily overclocked. Even with that the highest i've seen from the wall was just over 400W when really pushing it. Normal gaming power draw is well under 300W. I'm pretty sure even Clevo themselves ship a single 330W adapter with the newer 9900K and 2080 powered P775s.

 

My P775TM1-G with 9700K and RTX2080 draw around 280W when I play BF5. Heaven and AIDA running simultaneously draw around 320W.

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Two bricks gives headroom and the ability for the machines with multiple GPUs, HDDs and other peripherals to keep going.

 

So What is the Clevo 870 replacement these days? I know they are still being sold everywhere but I heard they are "discontinued"?

 

so i would need a splitter of sorts for this? Also is the p870 better than the p775 or is it just sli capable?

 

It still has more overall cooling but it's a lot of extra weight for it.

 

I actually like the new design. Hopefully it actually works.

 

Oh well. I guess the P870/P751/P775 will be EOL if this is a 17 incher?

 

well, wouldnt surprise me after a total of 5 iteration of these particular chassis types

ZM, DM, DM2/3, KM, TM

so might as well reboot and redesign the chassis for the upcoming 10 core / Ryzen machines (hopefully?)

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There can be multiple 17 inch machines just not taking up the same space market wise.

 

I wonder if they'll release something with mobile NVLink . . . One can dream lol.

 

Hard to justify the validation, I'd care less if we got a mobile 80ti core.

 

The mobile Quadro RTX 6000 is a TU102 core. Unknown if it will be fully enabled like the desktop RTX 6000 or cut down, and signs point to it being extremely TDP limited.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...tandard-for-mobile-workstations.434137.0.html

 

That's what hard mods are for...

 

upcoming 10 core 125w tdp man fk sake intel. just put it to like 150w so we can actually have a decent size heatsink from clevo. dell/msi dont really design their socket machine with 125 tdp in mind, clevo shouldnt either.

zen 2 16 cores.. it'll run about similar temp if not a bit more than 9900k, which is pretty sad.

 

Intel can't go too hard otherwise they will hurt their rep even more. We are getting towards x79 levels then.

 

dude, if the 3950x with 16(!) cores gets same temps and tdp as a 9900k then sign me up!

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The 3950x is way less thermally dense.

 

From looking at the heatsink design, it looks like the GPU now sits in a different position than we're used to with MXM cards?

 

Here's hoping the announcement of TU102 in a notebook starts the process of trickling it down to the gaming GPUs in 2020.

 

yeah thats what worries us, as well. this might point to either another design change of the MXM boards or BGA GPU....

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You would need a 3d model to be sure.

 

given the slim bazel and side vents its pretty much guaranteed redesign.

once again clevo disappoint in cooling, side vents almost to the point of being pointless except for adding some heatsink capacity.

 

So was the p775tm worth buying? seemed like info is a mixed bag. some cool some a hot mess. I just bought one used with a 8700k 1080. should be here monday. couldnt wait till the 2020 version comes out.

 

It fine laptop. But you need to do a little work.

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what do you suggest?

 

Re pasting and fine tuning voltage required.

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What's the problem with side vents? (I am genuinely asking).

Is it a loss of air pressure? Does that outweigh the added finstack surface area?

 

The single heatpipe to each side vent I think. The different depth means a less restrictive path for the air pressure generated by the fan inside the fan casing, so it will be 'wasted' on the smaller side rad instead of going through the deep back side radiator. Part load fan noise could be higher, airflow through the rear rad could be lower at maximum. But maybe that's been though of and the side vent is more dense to equalise the restriction. Who knows yet, these are leaked marketing pictures of an unknown age from unknown stage of development, of an unannounced product.

 

De-lidding the 8700K and putting liquid metal under the IHS, toothpick/paperclip fulcrum mod, repasting the IHS and GPU with a high quality thermal paste, and undervolting the CPU and GPU.

 

Thank you for taking the time to explain -- that hypothetical definitely makes sense

 

With an 8700k a delid with liquid metal will help a lot along with tuning the voltages/clocks.

 

So even with delided and good repaste. This cant really be pushed to its limits due to cooling issues??

 

What kind of limits are you after? 14nm starts to get crazy hot past 4.8GHz for most chips.

 

guess I was just hoping to max it out if needed in the future. was hoping it was designed to cool whats in it.Hopefully I get it today and can see what it has to offer. I got it on a deal I couldn't pass up so.

 

Unfortunately you cant push it like it's on a proper desktop. But this will still run circles around any mobile cpu.

I have 9700K version and all core boost set to 44x. Higher than that cpu will hit 90C when I play BF5. At 44x CPU temps saty around 85C.

4 core boost set to 48x. I can set 4 core boost to 49 or 50 but it'll draw too much power and temps will increase by 8-10C. Which is not worth the effort due to fan noise.

Try to adjust multipliers and voltages to see best possible results.

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