Clevo 2020

Yep, great idea to phase out and/or shrink almost all of the top of the line laptops when you need to cool GPU and CPU with a combined TDP of up to 500W (300+200).

With these new developments I'd suggest for the manufactureres to team up and:

a) Bring back the big chassis: Alienware, Acer, Asus, Clevo and MSI all had big statement or flagship laptops at one point and they can do it again. Especially the Acer, Asus and MSI offerings were flawed in one way or another and it should not be very hard to surpass previous sales numbers if with little to no changes the chassis can also do double duty as a serious DTR.

b) Get AUO to build a gaming and DTR friendly display with at least QHD, 120 Hz and 95% NTSC color space.
If AUO does not want to play along they could all threaten to not to buy from them anymore
Just kidding but while a manufacturer of displays will want to see certain sales numbers they would probably be willing to accomodate their very good customers if asked.

c) Ask Nvidia to finally build a mobile TI card - with a bigger chassis why not go all the way and allow for a TI card, too? That would finally be a worthy and improved successor for those SLI systems.

 

3 fan setup as P870 series. The 3rd fan and heatsink in middlee could be shared between cpu and Gpu. 250W for both. Several ways to paradise. But thinner and with the modern narrow bezels the newer chassis will be narrowed down to 15,6 inch chassis size. See... Can't do 3 fan setup in such chassis.

 

Kind of takes the fun out of owning such a device, why not just get any kind of turdbook that one does not expect much from in the first place.

 

d) have Kingpin & TiN design the cooling

 

The horror

Give me the old 18" chassis size with a 19 to 20" screen, at least you're getting something for your money with such a chassis.
3 fans may be a good idea if one wants to keep the height down but others have been successful with only 2 fans so I'd let the engineers decide what they do with all that real estate.

 

A DTR still smacks a turdbook silly even if it doesn’t quite reach peak desktop level perf.

 

CLEVO X170SM-g

 

2 fans setup means usually fully Unified heatsink setup. With the 3rd fan in the middle this will brake up. And you can use both sides on the 2 main fans on the sides similar as MSI etc. But the narrow bezels kill the 3 fan setup. Everything being Apple design nowadays.

 

X170SM-G Specs:
Matte 17"3 4K LCD with micro-LED Display 1000 nits
Up to 125W Intel Core i7 Desktop CPU
Up to 200W RTX 2080 Max P or Next Gen
Upgradable MXM Graphics + Unlocked Expert BIOS
Thunderbolt 3, ??? HDMI, 3x USB-A + much more
4 Speakers + 2 subs
2x 330W Bricks
Large bottom mesh intake
Side vents and thick fans
Side and back RGB lightning

 

Shut up and take my money. The screen looks to be amazing

Love the bezels around it and that power brick stand

Enviado do meu SM-N950F através do Tapatalk

 

I love how the whole time talking about the Ultra 17, it's bare without the spec sticker.

"Now, unfortunately I can't tell you anything about the specs of the Ultra 17"
*shows b-roll footage with full spec sheet*

 

Beat me to the punch. Lol.

Since it’s coming out until may I’d speculate maybe 10th gen CPU’s? That would be awesome. But I’m not gonna lie I think Clevo really delivered here on a great DTR. Very excited to see the cooling in this thing. Screen and speakers seem to be top notch. But I really want a high refresh display so hopefully that’s an option.

 

Up to 125W Intel Core i7 Desktop CPU

Lets see what falls under that 125W capacity..

 

And the dream is real.

 

There goes my other kidney

 

I'm all for it. Cooling capacity would have to be increased about 50% over the X170 which is no small feat!

 

6, 8 and 10 core CPU's all with the same TDP and the higher the core count, higher the clocks?
That smells funny....

 

Yep, definitely some advantages to the 3 fan design - 2 fans can only move so much air given a certain maximum height.

As for the X170 I will say that Clevo seems to have done a pretty good job increasing cooling by ca. 1/3rd over the P775 chassis while decreasing the volume of the case by probably at least 20% if not more but we could have gotten a much more powerful chassis if everybody wasn't so fixated on silm bezels. Nobody should blame Clevo for not using a bigger screen when no high refresh rate screen exists at 1 or 2 inches bigger but the bezels could have been kept to a larger size. Oh well, in the end I am happy that a prediction from earlier in the thread about them not even using an MXM GPU did not come true!

 

That may be a loud laptop audio, but it still won't match my headphone rig

 

This is nothing to be happy of. And longer pipes will loose heat transfer capacity vs shorter one. Not as efficient.

 

TDP/PL1 is at base clock. Base clock on the higher core counts is lower.

 

Seems like one can expect up to 30W per Core when maxed out so more like 180/240/300W respectively which means that for maximum overclocking on several cores the 10600k and 10700k should do better than the 10900k.

Given a cooling system that will have trouble with the GPU and CPU needing up to 500W it will again be a good idea to get some undervolting on the way to reduce power consumption and thus heat.

 

Pretty sure that's the problem with the GT76 Titan.

 

@Papusan smacking me with reality again. Lol


Is this pretty much confirmed to be the cooling solution for this machine? Maybe if they know what they’re doing and put the third fan in the right place then maybe all Hope isn’t lost. Then again didn’t the gt76 have four? Hmm. . .

 

Looks that way from what we can see in the video. Thick fans, side vents etc.

GT76 has two thinner fans are beneath the main board.

 

Guys

Looks like new Clevo models have hit CES

-There is the X170 which looks like a P775, P870 replacement
-There is also another model with AM4 socket

See this video



Does anyone have further details?

 

Am I the only one that thinks the XM170SM-G is just a big swing and a miss by including an Intel CPU at this time?

The current Zen2 chips are way out in front when it comes to perf/watt. This is especially the case in multi-core workloads where a 3950X objectively obliterates the 9900K/S and uses way less power doing it. Even in single-core tests the 3950X has reduced the gap to almost nothing.

 

Was talked about here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ws-and-performance-discussions.803130/page-32

And:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-2020.830221/page-41#post-10982058

No need to open a new thread about this

But i wouldn't count on a P870 replacement since it was discontinued by Clevo and SLI is pretty much dead

 

Who wants to buy a laptop in 2020 with an Intel CPU? Not this guy... Where are my Ryzen 4800H/HS laptops at Sager? all intel 10th gen stuff is refresh stuff based on skylake tech 14nm crap.

The 4800H is more powerful than a 9700K desktop cpu and takes WAY less power to run.

 

Exactly. A huge amount long pipes does not necessarily mean that the cooling has to be a lot better.

HaHa

Cannot guarantee 100% for the the validity. And it's possible Clevo can make some changes before release. God know. Maybe you have seen Dell's screw up with fake magic pipes right before they throw out the Area mess for sale. They changed the design without say it to the press at CES last year (reviewers was in the sky when Dell told it had 8 pipes). None know 110% for sure this will be the final HS design. But have it as a starting point for what to expect...

Can't see where you can put a 3rd fan who will make a difference for the cooling.

 

Yeah I’ve been distancing myself from Area 51m related news. That was just one big rushed mess. So my hope was Clevo was gonna catch up and show everyone how to do it right. So I don’t know at this point. Right now I have my eye the Clevo x170, the 15” Ryzen cpu Clevo laptop, or the GE66. Ones bound to be decent and not bring me eternal sadness.

 

Yep, there is a Ryzen version with AM4 full desktop CPU.

 

340W Laptop‍♂️‍♂️‍♂️

 

It's castrated. The 3900 OEM version@65W.

 

Man the X170 sure looks slick. However, it should have gone the ryzen way me thinks.

 

Makes me think twice building a small form factor desktop this year . I wish Nvidia ampere will be in it!

 

Too many Linus videos. Jarrod needs some luv too.

 

Well this thread basically is about the Clevo X170 and as his video does not mention or even show it I think that it is better to put it in the general product news thread for Clevo which has already been done. To concentrate the discussion on the X170 maybe this thread should be renamed to something like Clevo X170 2020?

 

Yep, best to put this in the product news thread and the X170 should not be considered a replacement for the P870, but only or the P775
Probably with one 2.5" drive slot less and missing a connector or two compared to the P775. From what has been leaked it is an improved cooling design but will still be a bit underpowered when it comes to dealing with the top of the line GPU and CPU options that will be available for it mainly due to increased power consumption of upcoming Intel chip that seem to get more cores without reducing the per Core power consumption by any meaningful amount. Also the graphics cards still seem to have a lower TDP compared to Asus and Dell but maybe this is something that will change if and when we see changed super cards in Q2.

 

If the gpu comes with 200w I'll take it. We'll see but apparently that's it. Hope so

 

It's the only clevo that is exciting everyone
In Q2 after nVidia presents Ampere we will see a lot more news I'm sure

 

Fixed that for you...sorry.

 

Still a nice step up over a mobile TDP.

 

Unfortunately the last 2 years have not seen a doubling of cooling performance in the same area a certain size chassis gives you certain amount of cooling.

 

Is it confirmed to support next gen RTX?
I would love a 3080 instead of a 2080

 

Yep. We'll have to wait until Nvidia presents Ampere to see those

 

Nope, that sticker was simply mislabeled.
For now it's just the mobile RTX "refresh", not "next-gen".

 

This. I find it funny when ever more powerful hardware is now put into chassis that on average are smaller than they were before and people wonder about throttling and/or excessive heat/noise - what goes around...

 

Or even in the same size chassis.

 

Greetings everyone
Is there any chance that we can see X170 version on AMD anytime soon ?