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    Clevo BIOS Thread

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. Pavel15

    Pavel15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    @asmoballlz: I found this BIOS for "D470 Impressa from Eurocom.com" ONLY with a quick search on google.

    Look at the changelog: if nothing matter to you, consider to NOT upgrade it !!
    I say that because I am *NOT SURE* this BIOS is the good one for you, so as always, if you brick your laptop, it's your responsibility :)

    www.eurocom.com/support/drivers/bios/d470V_bios.htm

    @Blacky: I don't heard @pkhetan about a new EC/KBC for W150HRM.
    So thank you :)
     
  2. asmoballlz

    asmoballlz Notebook Enthusiast

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    i have found the same bios but the download link is down :(
     
  3. Pavel15

    Pavel15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    With another search ("d4xv_10a.zip" on google ;) ) i found this:
    download.chiligreen.com - /Notebooks/Treiber Archiv/17 Zoll/D470V_Dynamic/Bios/
    17 zoll = 17 inches
    But I don't know if you can trust this BIOS/website...
    Maybe this BIOS will install a bootscreen with chilliGREEN's logo...
    BIOS are relatively easy to transform into malware...
    You can also contact the manufacturer of your laptop you grab the latest BIOS.
     
  4. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    I've bought a laptop some time ago from chilliGreen, they're cool.
    Also I am not sure, but I think it's a one man company.
     
  5. asmoballlz

    asmoballlz Notebook Enthusiast

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    one last question: are d470v and 480v the same? because on the sticer it says model d47v product code 480v and yhe bios is for a d470v.

    as long thank you verry much
     
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    Pavel15 Notebook Enthusiast

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    can't find the difference :(
     
  8. petraon

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    you have a link? merci :D
     
  9. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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  10. Kolich

    Kolich Notebook Consultant

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    I flash my Clevo x7200 to KBC and general Sager Bios but after that the notebook in Bios began to hang up.
    Whether there is a decision of the given problem?
     
  11. Anthony@MALIBAL

    Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Are you able to get past the bios at all? It's a known problem that flashing from a Clevo bios to a Sager one has a good chance of bricking the machine on all current models other than the x7200. It's listed on the first post in this thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread.html#post5300982

    If you're hanging now on the x7200, either you had a bad flash and bricked it or this same issue affects it as well.
     
  12. Kolich

    Kolich Notebook Consultant

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    I have hangup on X7200 with bios from Sager.
    I took such steps:
    1) burn cd with a bios from Sager 011
    2) boot from cd
    3) type EC
    4) restart
    5) type Bios
    6) restart
    7) set to default bios
    Then I come in bios, I am in it throughout 10-15 seconds and I receive notebook hangup.
    It as well in windows when it is loaded, in it is possible there are 20-30 seconds and there is a notebook hangup.
     
  13. Blacky

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    That's not that bad, you could try to flash back to a previous version provided your laptop won't freeze during the process.

    It seems to me that there was a problem during the BIOS flash (not necessarily related to the Clevo to Sager BIOS issue).
     
  14. Kolich

    Kolich Notebook Consultant

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    With original bios clevo x7200 I receive "hard" shut-down of a supply in a notebook at passage stress-test in aida64 after 8-12 minutes, thus my processor 990x heats up to temperature of 80-82C.
     
  15. Blacky

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    This might not be BIOS related, you better contact your reseller.
     
  16. petraon

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    Hmm, I was wondering if my Malibal P150's bios is the newest version? When I look up the bios version it says American Megatrends Inc. 4.6.4. 06/07/2011. So could I flash my bios using the files in this thread?
     
  18. Blacky

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    I have a Clevo W150HRM, and now a problem:

    Yesterday, i tried to flash the EC/KCB and the bios. I boot on the usb stick, browse to the correct folder to flash the EC/KCB, run update.bat. The script start, verify the "F5 sums", or something like that, can't remenber.
    After that, there was 2 lignes which i can't read because the screen and the fan turn off roughly...
    After a moment, i decided to disconnect the charger and wanted to turn on the pc: nothing. I noticed that the green LED which show the charger is plugged: it's off.
    So i can't turn on the pc.

    Any idea ? :/
     
  20. Blacky

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    I don't think the script got to the flashing part.

    Looks like a hardware problem to me. Contact your reseller.
     
  21. Anthony@MALIBAL

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    It sounds like you had a bad flash- either a bad image, script failure, etc - and/or unplugging it interrupted the flash and corrupted it. Contact your reseller for help or possible RMA. There isn't much else you can do yourself at this point if it won't turn on :(
     
  22. grusta

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    I don't know the normal progress, it was my first flash. Only two lines after the sums verifications.

    Thanks both for answering.

    Should I tell them I tried to flash the BIOS...?
    Maybe I should say the pc don't boot up after a normal shutdown...
     
  23. Lauski

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    August 2011, "Update CPU micro code" -- Just new support for the 2nd Gen Sandy Bridge CPU's, nothing else?
     
  24. blacktape

    blacktape Notebook Guru

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    I have a W150HNM (NP5160) and the fan is running erratically while in burn-in, and within a short time it shuts down from overheating. The current Bios that I have for it is 1.01.11RSA and EC 1.00.02SAb Are there any newer bios' for this laptop? I haven't been able to find any other mention of it, and neither Clevo or Sager have the BIOS on their driver pages.

    Edit: It would also be extremely useful to have the Field Service Manual for this model of laptop as well.
     
  25. asmoballlz

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    maybe a software like getThermal or speedfan could help
     
  26. blacktape

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    Nah, this thing is performing /very/ out of the ordinary. These laptops usually go all night running Unigines Heaven, but this won't go for longer than 2 minutes. The way it's acting, I was thinking memory, but I've ruled that out. CPU tests run normally, just 3d apps shut the comp down after about 1 min of running. Strangely enough, Hardware Monitor Pro reports the temps to be getting to around 70C, which is nothing to be concerned about... I think I'm going to be doing a motherboard replacement. (Integrated Secondary GPU.. Meh.) The fan runs fine with temperatures from the CPU, but for some reason the GPU isn't controlling it correctly.. which is either a firmware issue for the GPU, an EC firmware issue, for the fan control systems on the ITE chip, or a hardware malfunction.. which has been known to happen before. I just don't have the FSM for this model, so I'm flying blind when it comes to troubleshooting the hardware circuitry.
     
  27. lzykocp1002

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    i've had the same issue happen to my m980nu, temps are well within range but it just shuts down randomly, still never discovered it, and sometimes i get same error with other sager laptops, it could be possible power phase controller failing. is it always a guarantee that when you load a gpu intensive program you shut down?
     
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    when did you purchase this laptop?
     
  29. LLStarks

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    i'd ask where you found a ec/kcb for this laptop

    there's only a bios release floating around
     
  30. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Sager compiles the ec/kcb into the bios update package. Just ask your reseller for the latest package. :)
    _
     
  31. blacktape

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    I am the laptop technician for a laptop reseller. I handle around 10 of this model of laptop a week.. This behavior is very much out of character for this line. one of the techs here host the FSM's for a lot of the Clevo laptops on an external site, and that's where I get them. As for the Bios for this line, I have an older version that Clevo sent me a while back, so that's useless.
     
  32. DarkListener

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    Hi,

    are there any news for the X8100?
     
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    we already have that one, I'm looking for the W150HNM bios
     
  36. lzykocp1002

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    i am a computer technician period, desktop/laptop as well, and i've noticed your problems with a few clevo laptops on other models. It seems personally to me a like a power converter issue, the internal psu might be drooping. in which case motherboard will need replacement unless you care to desolder with a infra station and replace with durable new chips.
     
  37. lzykocp1002

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    dark listener i came to your german forum and tried to contact you and you decided to ignore me, as for the gtx 485m i've tested with my own customized modded .inf files and it works flawlessly in performance however it's instable by default with some titles for some reason, as for bios modding i was waiting for a few tools to come in a week or two and i will attempt with somebody else to do bios modding, with out the risk of corrupted laptop.

    Can you share some light though? with your gtx 485m? do you have 2 or 1 and are you able to be stable in any game? cause i get crashes with various games. Sli doesn't work for me either, obviously a bios issue

    edit: can you confirm a 480m is detected by bios natively?

    edit: also i would like to add i can not boot with 4gb on the gtx 485m? are you able to? i can only boot with 2gb ram when gtx 485m is installed
     
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    Interesting thought... There's not much to the internal PSU side of a laptop.. At any rate, I'll let Clevo handle the replacement of BGA chips and RMA the board. There doesn't seem to be any released Bios's for this unit newer than the Ver 11 BIOS and EC that we are currently receiving them with.

    Still waving a flag out for anyone that has the Field Service Manual for the W150HNM
     
  40. lzykocp1002

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    the internal power converter is very important, with out adequate power instability will always occur, there's not much that a end user can do about it no. but my best guess is that the voltages are spiking, i inquired once about getting a program that can measure the internal volts the laptop uses to see if it fluxes but none exist for laptops, your best bet would be to hook up a voltmeter and conduct stress tests, but you working with a company i guess having clevo replace your motherboard would seem like the less strenuous and simple solution, for other's who don't have the ability might end up being screwed.
     
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    Any news about NP8120-X8100 bios for ATI 6900M series? Cause Im upgrade to ver.14 but the bios still shows "unknown".
     
  42. lzykocp1002

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    bios needs modding, i'm waiting on a few tools probably 1-2 weeks.
     
  43. Grechie

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    i just flashed to the 1.14 on my P151HM1 and so far so good.
     
  44. blacktape

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    to lzykocp1002

    The main telltale of the problem so far, beside the system completely shutting down after 1-4 minutes of run time, is the inconsistant fan speed. It will idle normal, when the CPU is loaded the fan will incrementally spin up as it is supposed to, but when the nVidia GPU is loaded, the fan will spin up to 50% after a bit, then it will go to approximately 75% for two seconds, then drop back to idle. After a few more seconds, the fan will spin back up to 50% and repeat untill the system shuts down.

    What chips, specifically are you referring to when you say "power converter"? From the schematics of all the other laptops (I have yet to find the FSM for the W150HNM) there is no voltage conversion being made, with the sole exception being in the older CCFL backlit LCD's. There are power management chips, and then the regulators that are being controlled by the power management, but these systems are further reaching than just the fans. The controlling circuits for the fan systems (typically ideal to an APE8872) are slave to the ITE chip (which carries the EC Bios) and interfaces with Windows through the SM Bus. So... the only things that could be making this fault would be: the GPU is in itself faulty, the ITE chip isn't interpreting the thermal sensor input correctly, or it isn't putting out the correct signals for the temperatures that it has sensed. If the ITE chip is faulty in and of itself, I would expect to see some performance issues with the keyboard, Battery charging, Card readers, and a host of other systems.

    I just want to reflash the EC bios and make sure it's good before RMA'ing a laptop for a fan glitch.

    Edit: And when the system shuts down, I can immediately open the bottom cover and the heatsinks are well within normal operating temperature, both the CPU/Intel GPU, and the nVidia GPU sinks and heatpipes.
     
  45. lzykocp1002

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    i disagree with the gpu being the issue or the heat sensor being off, i haven't yet seen and issue like that, how would the gpu know when to shut off if it's internal sensors are srewed up, you would kill your gpu, so that also rules out the tempsensor and you said it yourself that you've tested the temps and they seem within spec. The chipset being faulty, you would experience some errors as well, corruption or some anomaly not just a shutdown when you load

    when i meant power converter i meant the voltage busses on the motherboard, the voltage regulators, laptops power adapter is the external power but when it connects to the laptop from adapter/battery then it has to be split up to support 3.3v +5v etc which is on the board. and the fact that your cpu fan is acting up makes me suspect this, that it could be drooping(suffering voltage fluctuations) and thus causing the freeze or reboot. I'm more then certain this is the case, because you've tested everything else, a bios update wont fix anything at this point unless alot of people are drooping as well and it's commonly known, which it's not, your likely going to rma it,

    edit: have you tried it on battery, just double checking i'd presume you did, as well as re formats etc etc.
     
  46. DarkListener

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    Which Forum you are talking about?

    SLI will not work with X8100 and GTX485M. the X8100 has only 150W for the grafics, and only one 485 will need 100W, so the board will deactivate the second (same as 480M).
    I'm using the 270.61 driver without modding and i've got no problems.
    The RAM i've too, but i can use 3GB (2GB under keyboard and 1GB at the CPU), thats why i'm searching for a newer BIOS than .14 and EC .08
     
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    i've made my own modded inf drivers of the new 280.26 and in some games i just FREEZE or instantly crash, are you using windows 7 64bit? also what version do you have usb 3.0 slots? compact flash

    so your saying that sli is disabled because of the power draw, i don't believe that. Because i managed to have both of my cards detected in the system, i just couldn't enable it, i think the reason is because the bios didnt support my card and shows unknown vga adapter, is the 480m shown in the bios of the x8100? and have you tested it with 2 cards.

    The cards are mxm 3.0b compatible, the 100W is just a TDP limit they can reach, not to mention you can always run beyond factory settings, i've never heard of anything like this.
     
  49. DarkListener

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    that's what i mean, the card is available at windows 7 (using x64, too) but whithout function. that's what the clevo specs say.
    i don't own a 480M so i don't know. my x8100 (with expresscard and without usb3) was delivered with 285M SLI.

    if you send me your modded inf, i can test it if the problem is with the driver...
     
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    Did you update the bios?
     
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