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    Clevo BIOS Thread

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, we used to download them from Clevo's website. Now we can't anymore. I will update the initial post with the rest of the Clevo models once I have some more spare time. I will also post the W870 BIOS 1.01 - with and without OC capabilities.
     
  2. jas

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    Blacky,

    To be clear, I wasn't referring to the hidden URL that was passed around this forum that allowed folks to download the BIOS files from the Clevo website. As everyone has found out, end users were not supposed to be using that facility. I meant I didn't understand why Clevo just doesn't make the BIOS files for their laptops available on the very same driver download page that hosts the links for the Windows drivers. (They should also include the download links there for the User manual, as opposed to clicking through to another download page). Pretty much exactly as Sager has recently done with the driver download page for the NP8690, and just like EVERY other laptop manufacturer does. MSI, in their company sponsored user forums, even have one sub-forum dedicated to sharing modified notebook BIOS files.

    Having said that, I wanted to edit my prior post to point out specifically that I think that you're doing a tremendous service to the Clevo laptop end user community by creating and maintaining this thread. The thread should be stickied, or perhaps at least just your post #1. (Hopefully the mods can help fix the white space issue too.. :) ) I just wish that good folks like you didn't need to do this.

    Given the BIOS disclaimer Clevo has on the bottom of their Windows driver download pages, and the lack of any BIOS download links (I looked through several laptop models and couldn't find one with BIOS download links), I was curious if anyone remembers when there were BIOS download links on the driver download page, and why they went away. I would also be curious if anyone knows if Clevo has ever provided a statement as to why they don't provide BIOS download links on their Windows driver pages.

    Regardless, I think this is something that Clevo should remedy for us, and the good thing is that they already have the model webpages built, complete with BIOS disclaimer. All they need to do is provide the BIOS download links. Until they do, we have efforts like yours to thank.

    So thanks again..
     
  3. WarpedMonkey

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    Anyone have tried the new D900F BIOS update (1.00.04s) which came out december 10th ??

    And does anyone know what are the changes they made to it ??
     
  4. Mutant_Tractor

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    I have man,
    Well i have the .04E "beta" i must get the full version, it has enabled an option for turning turboboost on and off :)
     
  5. PredatoR_TR

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    Hello friends,

    I have m571tu. I have 1.00.12 bios and 1.00.10 firmware. I want to do the last update. But I have some questions.

    1- How should I do this update, do I need to burn a CD or flashdisc would work? If yes, should it be totally empty and only with BIOS update?

    2- Last Bios 1.00.19 includes last firmware? Or should I update first to 1.00.18 with 1.00.12 firmware?

    3- There will be any problem with XP if I do this update and is there any new hotkeys or etc to make fan working like 20% 30% power? Silent mode makes my computer very hot and without it while even my computer is idle fan i working :S

    Thank you
     
  6. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    alright.

    1. You can use a CD or a flashdriver - but it has to be bootable into DOS mode. The CD or Flash drive can have other files.

    2.Yes, it does include all the latest. But you have to update first the EC and than the BIOS. It is very important that you do so.

    3. No, there shouldn't be any problems. Just remember to set your computer to XP mode from the BIOS after you are done flashing.
     
  7. PredatoR_TR

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    Thank you for very quick answer.

    So I will check my flashdisc if it can be seen into DOS mod. ( I think you mean if I can choose which one I want to start? Like I am installing windows and I choose CD-ROM)

    So there is last firmware in 1.00.19 and when I am at the DOS, does it give me the chance to select EC firstly?
     
  8. Blacky

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    No it's a bit different, the BIOS and the EC are 2 completely different things.
    Put the EC files in one folder, use DOS to navigate to that folder and type update.bat. Let it update, restart.

    Put the BIOS files in a different folder, run update.bat from that folder. Wait for it to update , it should automatically restart.

    I think I will have to make guide for this.
     
  9. BrandonSi

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    I think you just did buddy! :)
     
  10. theriko

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    For making your usb stick bootable, use zfactors guide in my sig
     
  11. PredatoR_TR

    PredatoR_TR Notebook Evangelist

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    Thank you for this great tutorial! ;)
     
  12. NmE

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    Does anyone have a changelog for the W860CU bios update? (1.01.04s)
     
  13. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Have you tried using the wayback machine to see if you could find archived copies of older Clevo webpages? If they've been archived, you might be able to determine the last date on which Clevo formerly made BIOSes available from its download page.
     
  14. Blacky

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    The last date is around 1-2 days before the initial post of this thread. I used to check for a new BIOS once every 2-3 days and I've posted here immediately after Clevo blocked access to the files.
     
  15. jas

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    I haven't and it's a good suggestion. I've never used the wayback machine to look something like this up. I just figured with some of the veteran Clevo users here they might remember if there was a time when the BIOS download links were publicly available. I just know that Clevo has not made them available for the D900F, since last August when I bought mine, because I specifically looked for it, when I got my laptop. I believe what Blacky is referring to is the fact that the hidden URL I referenced above, would allow access to downloading of the BIOS files up until the time at which he started this thread. That's not what I mean when I request that Clevo make the BIOS download links publicly accessible. For example, I was able to download the D900F BIOS using those links back then, but that facility was supposed to be for ODM Partners and not End Users, which is probably why it requires an account to login to today.

    If anyone looks at the driver downloads page for another laptop brand, like MSI, and then looks at the Clevo drivers download page, one of the most notable differences is the lack of BIOS download links. I don't think it's so important to know when Clevo suspended the practice, (if they ever did it). I just think that Clevo owes it to the end users to begin making them available, like every other laptop manufacturer. They should include download links for the BIOS files for every laptop on their drivers download page, and they should include older versions, and changelogs right there on the download page. Probably two of most common questions, uniquely, on the Clevo forum board here is, "Where can I get the latest BIOS for xxx model?", and "What's the changelog for the BIOS update for xxx model?". That's something that Clevo should provide for the end users.

    Thanks..
     
  16. Soviet Sunrise

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    Is asking the vendor that the user bought their notebook from such a hard thing to do?
     
  17. jupapri

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    actually is not hard to do. i sent an e-mail to sager asking for the latest bios and kbc for my machine because i'm going to rma again and they sent me a .iso file, just burn it in a cd-r and i'm enjoying my latest bios with the sager logo boot screen.

    trust me, if you want the latest bios just ask you vendor, they will e-mail it to you
     
  18. jas

    jas Notebook Evangelist

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    Considering the fact that you frequently give that very advice to people posting for BIOS update help in this forum, should have already answered that question for you. I feel that the laptop manufacturer, not my reseller, is responsible for providing me with the BIOS updates to my laptop, and I know lots of people feel the same way. However, if one can only go through their reseller for BIOS updates for their Clevo laptop, that also raises some questions. What if your reseller were to go out of business? What if you can't contact your reseller in a timely manner to get an update, (crashed mail, or web server, travel overseas, etc.)? What if you bought your Clevo used, and you don't know who the reseller was? What if your reseller is reluctant to provide you with the BIOS update at all, in order to protect you from yourself? What if your reseller won't, or can't, let you know what the changelog is, so that you can determine whether or not you need the BIOS update? Most importantly, how many Clevo end users are notified by their reseller of BIOS updates when they are released, (again with a changelog for what's new)?

    The problem is that if anyone buys almost any other laptop brand, they have the choice of getting their OS drivers, PDF manuals, and BIOS updates from either their reseller, OR the manufacturer. It's also clear that the preferred way of updating ones system, is through the manufacturer's website. Not only is it easier, one feels safer using the manufacturer provided updates. Apple actually downloads the BIOS updates to your laptop, through their Software Update tool, and includes the instructions for performing the update in the download. Unfortunately this is not the case with Clevo. The funny thing is that many of you know that the BIOS download links exist, as do the lengthy BIOS changelogs, on the Clevo website. The only problem is that they are in the ODM, account controlled, (now), part of the website, along with the PDFs of the service manuals. Lastly, if getting BIOS updates from ones reseller worked well, I guess there wouldn't be a need for this thread. Or these;

    Bios and how to update it
    BIOS and Firmware Update for Sager NP5793
    Clevo M72R bios update
    Anyone have a BIOS update for the M570u?
    Need bios for Clevo 901C (Sager 9262, PCM Blackhawk XM5, et.al.)
    New M570TU BIOS
    Clevo 8800M GTX New BIOS (D901C & M570RU)
    Help!Who can give me a D901C/NP9261 new BIOS (V13)

    or these..

    NEWEST BIOS/FIRMWARE FOR M570RU-U (Sager NP5793)
    Easiest way to update BIOS?
    How to get a BIOS update for my 5760
    Sager NP3880/Clevo M38W bios update and more
    D901C Bios Update Needed
    Need original m570ru 1.00.07 bios 8800m gtx
    Clevo M(D)22ES Bios Update

    etc..
     
  19. Soviet Sunrise

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    Yes, that is the unfortunate fact for Clevo. Those are the consequences involved with going with a notebook manufacturer that uses smaller companies (ie. Sager, ProStar, Eurocom, etc) to handle the customer level support where the rubber hits the road. It is different with other manufacturers like Asus and Apple because they deal with customers directly while Clevo does not. Does it put pressure on Clevo to follow the mainstream market and remove the protected log in on their BIOS page? Yes it greatly does because of ease and convenience. However, the fact still stands that a Clevo user still needs to consult the OEM first for the BIOS, though a slightly time consuming process, before asking for it on a public forum. But for the many of us that want things done fast, we resort to the latter first and never ask our reseller. Also, the vast majority of Clevo users that wish to update their BIOS do not know how to do so and wish to acquire a copy of the BIOS first, and then learn how to flash it later. This is one of the main reasons why the reseller protects the user from himself by declining to provide it. However, those of us that do know how to ask for a BIOS by stating that we are indeed familiar with updating it have been given the BIOS by our resellers. There are users including myself that have asked our resellers for the latest BIOS with the change logs before resorting to Clevo's service page, even before it was locked away.
     
  20. Blacky

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    That's nice Soviet. But I know for sure that my reseller would never sent me any BIOS and he/she is not the only one to do this. Costumer service in US, provided by Sager and a couple of other companies is very good in this regard. In EU on the other hand things are different and just a few companies offer service quality close to the same level and even those would probably not reply to your BIOS request all the time.

    So asking the latest BIOS from your reseller is not an option for everyone.
     
  21. jas

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    I do appreciate the points raised. Also, I'm in the US, and when I mentioned that some resellers are reluctant to send you the BIOS because they want to protect you from yourself, I speak from direct experience. Anyway I'll stop yammering on, in this thread now, (is that applause I hear?), and let Blacky get back to his good work here. Although I'm seriously considering creating an online petition, (a real one), to get Clevo to change this policy. So don't be surprised if you see me start a thread here for that.

    Thanks..
     
  22. Soviet Sunrise

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    All of the OP's in the threads you linked, and in several of the other BIOS related threads buried in the Clevo forum are all users that have very little experience with handling a system BIOS and have no real reason to update it other than just to have the "latest." I think one of them isn't even looking for the system BIOS, rather the GPU BIOS for a 8800M GTX, which is a totally different story. This goes back to what Chaz and Gophn always say, "if it's not broken, don't fix it." Again, I can bet most of them did not bother to ask their reseller first before they posted. Only after they have asked their reseller do they have the right to seek it from an alternate party. That is what I am trying to convey here; a self-sufficient work habit.

    That's hard to hear, Blacky. Everytime I hear Clevo stories in Europe, it's always something bad or something expensive, though not including the truly good sellers in Europe. I see why you are a crusader for Clevo BIOS updates
     
  23. Benjamin Wassink

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    I like the Sager bios logo when it boots!!! :D :D (joke)

    My reseller is xxodd in Holland and when i ask about the bios or firmware update for my 570ru they done now wat i mean! They are not very smart here!

    I already ript of the xxodd loggo! :D So i,am looking for good reseller logo or clevo logo :D :) .
     
  24. Mutant_Tractor

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    The Eurocom one looks crap, the best iv seen is the StyleNote one
     
  25. Blacky

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    It's good you understand my point of view. For me and others like me, this forum is the only place where we can get any Clevo BIOS updates. And it is you along side with other good intentioned users that have been providing Clevo BIOSes for those less fortunate.
     
  26. Soviet Sunrise

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    If you do create this petition, I'd find myself surprised to say that it would be the first one that I would not go against the grain on. Just as much as the next person, I want Clevo to remove their account protected services page so that we can stop annoying our resellers and just download the BIOS straight off their site.
     
  27. ARGH

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    does anyone know how i go about flashing the EC and bios for the d900c with the provided files in the front page link? there is no iso file and the bios is too large to fit on floppy disk.
     
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    Any news for OC for M980nu/NP9850 ???
     
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    I wish :( ....
     
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    Does anyone know where the new D900F BIOS is the .04i i think?
    The non "beta" one?
     
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    Thats a shame with these Bios issues. So i guess no update yet on W680Cu?
     
  33. Blacky

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    Initial post update. Flashing guide now available.
     
  34. Sparky894

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    has anyone flashed the new D900F bios yet ?

    any issues with the new D900F bios ?

    :confused:
     
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    I'm trying to enable TPM in my bios (Clevo 900F) and it is disabled by default with no option to change this. Anyone know if any of the recent BIOS updates allows you to enable this feature? I'd hate to have to keep track of my USB all the time if I decide to begin using bitlocker.
     
  36. theriko

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    Are you sure you have the TPM chip installed on the mobo? They were in very short stock when these machines were in production and most (almost all as far as I'm aware) do not have it.
     
  37. WarpedMonkey

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    Well this is what I have for now...
    BIOS V 1.00.04s
    KBC V 1.00.03g
    Other than having turn off my RAID (which I turned back on in the BIOS) and disabled my wireless for no reason (I turned it back on too)....there is no problem with .04s nor anything new that I can see.


    Is there a newer KBC????
     
  38. krzychuus

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    Hi!
    First of all: THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all the info posted here - it's really great,that you can find all this stuff in just one place!

    Now, as about my searching thourg the Internet, and finding this site... I'm desperately looking for a bios update for my M660SU/M670SU, which I unfortunately can't get from my vendor. I was hoping that maybe someone had the same problem finding it, or maybe one of your vendors had some bios updates for a notebook built on a base of M660SU/M670SU.
    Thanks for help, tips, or anything that may lead to a solution!

    ..and, as it's 31 December today - Happy New 2010 Year! :)
     
  39. zx_rider

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    Hi there.. does anyone knows where can I find BIOS and EC for flashing my Clevo m570a / Sager 5720?!
     
  40. WarpedMonkey

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    Just contact Sager and ask them for the latest BIOS/EC for your model. The technical support email is the following: [email protected]

    They asked me for my laptop serial number before sending the BIOS update, so you could always put your SN in the first email to get everything done fast.
     
  41. Blacky

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    I've already mentioned in the initial post, that your main source for Clevo BIOS is your reseller.

    Only when it is difficult to get in touch with your reseller should you download the BIOS for somewhere else.
     
  42. zx_rider

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    I was asking for the bios for the m570a because this laptop I bought is in second hand.. Can I asked them for the bios anyway?!
     
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    If you have the S/N i dont see why not :)
     
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    OK

    Tks.. I've send them a mail.. lets hope they aswer quickly
     
  45. WarpedMonkey

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    Well I bought my D900F from XoticPC and still asked Sager for the BIOS (with my S/N of course), because XoticPC gave me an older BIOS, when I asked for their latest one...
     
  46. Varadero

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    Has anyone had an XP clean install BSOD on a 570/1 TU (5757) after the ver19 BIOS? The exact issue XP suggests is the ACPI. (I set the OS to XP)
     
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    Just e-mailed Eurocom for a BIOS update for my D900F, chances of actually getting one...?
     
  48. Varadero

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    WARNING to all XP fans with 570/1TUs - do NOT use the v19 ISO at the start of the thread. The ACPI in that BIOS is designed fror Vista and Se7en and XP will be crippled by it. Changing the OS selection to XP in BIOS does not fix it.

    I have gone back to a version predating the Roman Empire for now (I didn't make a copy of my original one before flashing) and when I have some more time will try v18 and post back. At the moment though, I'm tempted to say if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
  49. Blacky

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    That is interesting.... we need more feedback on this .
     
  50. PredatoR_TR

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    I am using XP and I have no problem with BOIS v19

    by the way if I want to use XP 64 bit, can I find all drivers?
     
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