You listening the settings makes them run slower, thus leading back to the fact that the board cant handle the bandwidth properly or its the load. If the voltages change slightly which result in needing to adjust times to make stable again.
If the memory is 1.5v for example its more strain on the system to give 4 dimms that vs 2 and having 4 may make it move ever so slightly up or down or even bouncing up and down which also impacts the controller voltage etc.
The simple point I was trying to make though is that the physical ram module does not run any faster in dual channel vs single. If anything they run slower individually because like you said, you end up loosening the times.
The speed increase from dual channel comes from the mb using multiple channels. So if all the memory can pass tests in single channel and not dual the only thing left is either the mb changed something ever so slightly, like voltage due to load and the ram is very sensitive and now not stable or the mb cant hold steady stable voltage load or the mb simply cant handle the bandwidth correctly resulting in errors.
I am more inclined to say its a voltage thing which could mean either memory to sensitive or the board cant handle the load increase.
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kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
Ok, I got you.
Well, this kit happens with both channels A and B of my laptop. I'm RMA'ing the kits for the second time and will also try to go with the Samsung kit to see if it makes a difference. I reckon that there are a lot of users complaining with HyperX SODIMM kits. -
Yes, CL6 is also HyperX. At 1066 MHz, the stock timing are 7-7-7-20. I have 6-6-6-16.
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ha! identified the faulty kit! fortunately, the other two modules passed all memtest86+ tests with flying colours, so ill RMA the faulty ones and hope that the system instabilities are finally over!
thanks for the idea guys.
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Updated bios to 1.4 and ec to 1.3 from the first page in my P150hmx. Easily done by usb. It works, but the fan now goes on and off constantly whether it's needed or not. Normal non gaming temps stay around 40 so the fan wouldn't kick in at all before. Not a major issue, but is annoying. Does anyone else have the same issue, or a solution?
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pls i need drivers for d47ev d48ev spesial for bios and camera
microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600
Constructor functional Microsoft Corporation
Name of system ADMIN
Clevo, Co.
Model of system D40EV/d47ev
Type of system PC based on X86
cpu x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 4 GenuineIntel ~2999 Mhz
BIOS/imerominj'a Phoenix 4.06, 19/10/2004
E SMBIOS 2.31
Windows C:
List of system C:
Appliance of departure
Locality Greece
Level of abstraction of material Publication = "5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2111)"
Name of user ADMIN
Area of hour Wintry hour GTB
Total real memory 1.536,00 MB
Available natural memory 882,06 MB
Synoljki' ejkonjki' mni'mi 2,00 GB
Djace'sjmi ejkonjki' mni'mi 1,96 GB
Space of file of layout 3,60 GB
File of layout C:.sys -
For EC (I am not sure if this is the correct file, flash at your own risk): D4xEV_H8_07 (EC).zip
For BIOS: D4EV_109 (BIOS).zip (this one should be ok) -
Pls help me with my BIOS
it says:
System Bios Shadowed
System Configuration Data updated
ERROR
System Configuration Data read error
press <F1> to resume, <F2> to Set up
and my system can't read my HDD and CDRom
i finally have the bios update but it wont boot from usb
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Erhh, I can only guess that your motherboard has died on you. But it's just a guess, I'm not a specialist in these things.
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I got my hands on a copy of EC02 for the 5165/5175.
EC03 is noisy as hell and disables Fn+1 fan control.
Anyone want it? It only works if you burn it to a CD. I'm trying my hardest to extract the EC bin so you can put it on a DOS USB, but no luck so far.
http://www.mediafire.com/?w3ayf9ryr6oau8c -
Here's the bin
ECW150.2SA -
Hello
I'm new on this forum and I need some help about the Bios of my Clevo P170HM (bought in France (PCW)).
I have flashed it with the Bios released on PCW.fr (BIOS_P170HM_EC_09.zip - 04-Jan-2012 11:14 - 1.8M) in the goal to solve the fan issues (switch speed from slow to fast everytime in IDLE) but nothing happened... Fan is mad as before the flash...
I got this screen from HWInfo for the Bios of the MB:
I got the last Bios for this computer ?
Thanks for you help and have a nice day
Leop93 -
That's the latest EC/KBC. You can also try to update the BIOS to version 1.0.10. You can find the link in the initial post of this thread.
But other than that, there's nothing the BIOS can solve...
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Hello Blacky
Thanks for your help.
I can't clean my laptop, I started for the first time yesterday night.
The update with the Bios 1.0.10 is an original from Clevo and not a Sager ? I don't want to brick my new computer... -
Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative
Unless otherwise noted, all of the bios files on the first page of this thread are Clevo bios, NOT Sager. That said, that 1.0.10 bios isn't going to fix your fan issue. It sounds like you're getting the standard fan speed issue that comes with the EC on this model. It will spin up/slow down the fans even at idle, depending on your temperatures.
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Thank you for the explanation Malibal #2. Then I will flash the Bios tomorrow.
You say that the Bios will not fix the fan issue, there is something to do to fix it ? My temps are very cool and the fan makes noise for nothing in my opinion... -
Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative
Unfortunately, no. They will always cycle up and down even when the machine is basically idling. It's not usually too bad or noticeable though. Undervolting the GPU is the only real way to avoid it, but it can void your warranty. -
Ok.
My GTX 580m is already at 0,800V in Idle and 0,870V in Game/Bench. And the temperature is very cool: 40-41°C (Idle) and 62°C after 4H of Call Of Duty 4.
For the CPU, it's the same thing, temperature of 39-41°C in Idle.
I will now flash to the latest bios.
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Then I don't think there is anything more that can be done.
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I find the fan spinning even then the laptop is idling reassuring nothing worse than a fan that is not working correctly and you could start cooking eggs on your laptop!
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The problem is that Clevo laptops are not ACPI compliant. So passive cooling is not properly implemented. For some odd reason, for what is supposed to be a high performance and fully customizable platform, the Clevo gives no controls to end users to fine-tune the operational parameters according to their individual use-cases. So for example, one can't optimize the systems temperature and performance parameters according to local environmental conditions. I personally have no need for a laptop that automatically cools well whether I'm in the desert or polar region with no ambient air conditioning.
As-is, the thermal management control for this platform is too aggressive in the low range. This combined with a system design and component sourcing with no consideration for acoustic noise control, results in the poor excuse for a cooling solution we're left with.
If you really need a solution other than catastrophically compromising performance, it seems a number of cooling and sound-proofing mods are in order. In addition to the modifications discussed in an other post to reduce temperature, I was able to reduced the fan noise by basically re-engineering some aspects of the platform. I had to lubricate the fan sleeve bearings with graphite powder and a bit of oil to reduce mechanical vibrations (rattling noise). I also had to polish the fan impellers to overcome poor manufacture post-processing that was inducing ridiculous noise levels at blade passing frequency and related harmonics: flashings were not well trimmed and asymmetries caused impeller imbalances. Modifying the airflow conditions on the air inlet and outlet paths for the CPU fan also helped reduce the noise. And finally, sound insulation foam and plastic guards to re-route airflow and restrict acoustic sound paths (under the trims and keyboard around the "ESC" key) limited noise radiation from the CPU fan toward my head.
I am now within 2°C of a having PC that operates with performance, cooling and acoustic noise parameters that are within bounds of reason (for an office space @21°C). I'm still trying to pinpoint the trigger of odd random CPU fan spin-ups that don't seem to be CPU temp/activity related, but yet seem to subside somewhat at (significantly) lower ambient temperatures.
Much of this hassle could be avoided if Clevo could release a convenient user-friendly software utility that allows users to customize temperature zones according to their individual use-cases. (how about "HotKey 4.0"?) Clevo is the closest I could get to a laptop OEM that fit my needs, since Toshiba and Sony failed me on performance. It really sucks that no OEM seem able to just get it reasonably right... and keep it right.
I'm now considering piggy-backing a custom fan controller between fans and connectors. Otherwise, beyond further brute-force hacks and lots of time wasted, one waits in agony for some genius to reverse-engineer the bios for this system and publish a fix that allows tweaking of temperature zone parameters (temperature thresholds and fan speeds).
If anyone is aware whether such a bios-level solution or related tweaks have been achieved, or when they will be, please let it be known. -
Anyone know if it's really worth the hassle to upgrade the EC/KBC to 1.00.13?
Currently running BIOS 1.01.14 and EC/KBC 1.00.12 on my Clevo P150HM.
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Yes, its worth it, the fan profiles change with the newest EC firmware making them run more consistent instead of going on/off all the time.
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Thanks, guess I'll have to look into it then
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I wonder if it's worth upgrading. I had no problems before, but the upgrade caused the fan to cycle. It's not annoying playing games, but irritating using less intensive programs.
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Where can i find the vBIOS for the Eurcom/CLevo 6990m's in a P180hm?
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you could just save your vBIOS with GPU-Z, if u need it
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Unfortunately I dont have it. I picked up a pair of 6990m's on Ebay for cheap money(Dell cards)and picked em up this mornin, but when I install em, the P180hm just beeps slowly then powers off(fans run at higher than norm speeds). I have a pair of 6970m's but I doubt the Vbios is the same as the 6990m's.
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aaah okay, gotcha. maybe you could ask one of the other forum members with a Clevo and a 6990M to send u their vBios
cheers
PS: why do u even need TWO of these monster laptops? lol just checked out your sig, pretty amazing stuff u got lying around there
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Next question, how do I flash the Vbios on the 6990m's on the P180HM? Already have a bootable flash usb drive and the files loaded on, but can't figure out how to get the 2 video cards reflashed.......I have ATIFLASH, BR39257.008,CHECKSUM,MASTER,SLAVE, files are all on the USB drive.......
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these are the two most up to date tools i could find:
Download ATIFlash 3.95 | techPowerUp
Download ATI Winflash 2.0.1.14 | techPowerUp
good luck, hope it works!
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Anyone know if the 1.06 bios for the np8130/p151hm1 works with a 560m video card?
Any of the resellers know this? I'd try but I don't want to brick, surely you guys have recovery tools ;p -
kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
Is 1.06 the latest bios version for the np8130?
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The p151hm and the p150hm use the same BIOS. Check first post for latest bios.
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Nah, it's one of the earliest ones.
BIOS V 1.01.06 &
EC/KBC V 1.00.04
To clarify, I want to use this BIOS rather than the latest version, but I want to know if the 560m will work properly... and that I won't end up with a brick. -
If it's just the video card that you are afraid of, then you can try to flash and if it doesn't work, you should be able to blind-flash back to a newer version.
But you should know:
BIOS V 1.01.11 &
EC/KBC V 1.00.07 April 2011 Mediafire link Support nVIDIA GTX560M VGA.
Run step1.bat to update EC firmware, run step2.bat to update system BIOS. -
kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso
Mind if I ask the reason for using an old bios revision? -
he has a ES CPU that he wants to tune TDP-wise and he can only do that with this older BIOS version
link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ed-bios-xmp-hpet-therm-config-unlocked-7.html
cheers -
Yeah but I don't think I can use that version, too new. (According to the fella in the other thread)
I never thought about blind flashing actually... but there is the possibility of the system just halting because it freaks out about an unknown gpu or something. -
Hi, there
I've a p150hm and i tried to update my bios but by mistake i've updated bios first then EC. SAGER versions for BIOS V 1.01.14 & EC/KBC V 1.00.13 : this is latest version i guess. I've updated because my turbo fan has a 3 ON 1 OFF noise but i think nothing changed by the update. What can i do know, any suggestions? -
Look what writes in Post, it writes BIOS version there.
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Im rather confused...
After all the readings and searches i made in this thread i dont know whats the latest KCB/EC Firmware and Bios available from the table available in the begenning of this post, because i dont see no entry for my machine W150HRM.
-from the clevo website i can see that W150HRM/W150HRQ/W170HR are from same Series.
Currently im using:
BIOS 1.00.09 modded
KBC/EC firmware 1.00.03 from clevo.
And since i have flashed the bios and kbc/ec i was not able anymore to boot Windows 7, it always freezed booting (in logo), and in "Safe Mode" if freezes in file CLASSPNP.SYS.
So can anyone please help me and clarify? -
I also have another machine (older), a notabook M761SU clevo based.
But i also dont view any entries for this machine in the beginning of ths post for the older machines.
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The W150 is a different laptop than the P150HM. I don't hose BIOS files for the W150x .
Why don't you contact your reseller on this issue? -
Anthony@MALIBAL Company Representative
It sounds like Black suggested, and that you used the wrong Bios files for machine. Contact your retailer to see if they can give you the proper files to do a flash and see if that fixes it. If you are unable to flash it, you may need to RMA the whole laptop to have it fixed for you.
The model names are very similar, but the bios you used was not for your machine unfortunately. -
The only problem is regarding CLASSPNP.SYS and i have installed a Windoes 7 Ultimate (original) and it booted and runned fine.
So im thinking this was some issue regarding the Windows 7 i installed that was an AIO cracked release...
I also installed Windows 8 Preview and it also all went fine, but i dont like 8 that much, so im now downloading Windows 7 Ultimate x64 MSDN and since its also original, i think all will go fine.
By the way, the linux distro Mandriva i had in the noteboo it always booted fine (with the updated clevo bios and also with the clevo bios modded).
I also have contacted clecvo but they told me to contact the notebook vendor, which i did but they do not have any bios for W150HRM.
By the in the vendor store they replaced the HD by a new one and it also hanged in CLASSPNP.SYS with the Windows 7 AIO cracked release... -
I see you also have a W150HRM, could you point me which is the KBC/EC latest version and a URL if possible?
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Hello to all! Can somebody upload the files for M76xSU? I have one that needs bios update and i can't find it! thanks!
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Hi, I'm italian boy and I've SANTECK N67 (CLEVO p150HM) with i7 2960xm...Is there a modified bios or program for overclock my Xtreme CPU??
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We can keep it in turbo mode for longer or even forever, but on P150HM it is difficult to change turbo multi, no success with that, yet.
You can PM me with your untouched bios if you want the TDP to be changed.
Please inform yourself prior to know how to flash and test it.
Clevo BIOS Thread
Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Sep 11, 2009.