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    Clevo BIOS Thread

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Nope, you need to flash the new EC first... :rolleyes:
     
  2. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    Im in super panic lol. HELP aaaa :confused: Sorry my englsh bad :)

    1. I was make Ecflash first sure , but I was not get auto-reboot after operation.
    2. I was reboot manually and runs flashme.bat
    3. After all 1.05 EC , 1.010 main bios.
    4. Now I was make ECflash again! and now I get auto-reboot, and now version 1.07 EC in bios

    Is it very bad , that no result after first ECflashing and I was make second try already with 1.010 bios? :(((
     
  3. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

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  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    You are fine this time, but there are updates that brake your Notebook if you do it the other way round. :rolleyes:

    Ha ha ha, no it's just hidden when you are not logged in... :D
     
  5. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    oh my God ! //_\\ :confused: dear Prema , I'm sorry that I'll bother you , but Im really ok if now 1.07 and 1.010 ? and also questions why so important flas EC first? and why I was not get auto-reboot after first try with ECflashing? :confused:
     
  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    ...some new BIOS NEED new EC to BOOT. This one doesn't... ;)
    So BUT general rule is EC first then BIOS.
    ALL IS WELL! BE HAPPY :)
     
  7. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    thanks a lot !
     
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    Omeganex9999 Newbie

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  9. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it me or did the update did something weird with my keyboard? Lol. I think I'm going crazy here, but it could be completely just my fault.

    When I type, my cursor jumps to another line or different spot on the same line so that I end up typing the rest of the word between another word. This never happens to me. I'm not even touching the arrows, which would definitely cause it. It's quite possible that I'm just being clumsy today. I just though it's happening way too often and decided to ask if this happens to anyone else with the 1.00.08 and 1.00.10 updates.
     
  10. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Clevo has only uploaded the new P151EM BIOS, the final EC isn't there yet...
     
  11. yegg55

    yegg55 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Judging by the screenshot and the suffix SA (1.00.07SA) you flashed EC/KBC from Sager, right?

    If so, could you share this firmware?

    And yet - what the driver is installed on the iGPU?

    Thank you.
     
  12. Coca

    Coca Notebook Consultant

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    Testing new bios on 150em :), all fine , new in Bios menu after update is
    Intel virtualization technology (Enabled by default). same perfomance and same Enduro 7970 problem (its kk bc its ati deriver problem new beta soon yays xD )
     
  13. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Can´t you just force the P150EM Bios into a P151EM ?
    Both machines are pretty much the same, should be compatible. Maybe Prema can give us his opinion about this.

    Also when do you think we will be able to use XTU with P150EM? I could really use it....
     
  14. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay, just to add to this, I noticed that while I was typing in an instant messenger window it automatically switched to another window without me pressing any keys that would have done that.

    Before I could finish my sentence to my friend, the chat window disappeared and my browser came up on top. Also as I was typing this, my cursor jumped one line up (update: 3 times it jumped over to another line while typing this post).

    Do others with the latest EC and BIOS see the same thing I'm seeing here? This is weird. I'm regretting that I updated right now. This is getting annoying. I did everything to the letter and this isn't the first time I updated. The entire process went as normal.
     
  15. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The ECs are different due to the backlit keyboard...should be there soon...
    @ Seanzky maybe disable your TOUCHPAD while typing...
     
  16. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    I thought of this even though I haven't noticed touching it while I type and this has never happened to me before. I'll give it a try. In any case, I just powered off my laptop, removed the battery and pressed the power button for a few second, and cleaned my keyboard and touchpad just in case something was causing it to register a touch or whatever.

    Any P170EM owners out there who flashed the EC and BIOS?
     
  17. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

    John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative

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    Humm.. well l don´t want to give any bad advice to users, but i been using a P151EM with P150EM bios/ec since they came out.

    Just updated to latest B10/EC07. Everything been working perfect so far!
     
  18. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Ya, they only really create problems on non English keyboard layouts...proper 151 07 EC should be there soon.
     
  19. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    Just to update, the keyboard is still giving me problems. I try to watch my pinky when I'm hitting the shift key and enter key as they are very close to the arrow keys, but it still happens. This is weird. In case I have to flash the older EC, is it possible to keep the same BIOS? Are there any special steps? What should I do? Since no one seems to be experiencing what I'm seeing, either that or no one has come back to post feedback, I'm starting to think I'm alone in this.

    (Once again, typing this message took longer than usual because the cursor moved and even selected a bunch of characters causing me to type over them.)
     
  20. extide

    extide Notebook Deity

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    Hrmm, those issues seem pretty weird.
     
  21. Omeganex9999

    Omeganex9999 Newbie

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    Thanks a lot! I was just worried cause nobody mentioned that. :)
     
  22. Enpatsu

    Enpatsu Notebook Geek

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    Now I'm using P151EM with both 05 version of BIOS and EC but I don't know how to use the fan control function. Tried fn+1 but no use...

    And great to hear that new BIOS of P151EM is released, I can't find the download link, when will be be updated to the first post?
     
  23. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Ok, I've updated the initial post with the BIOS and EC for P170EM and P150EM. I haven't updated the P151EM since I am still waiting on the EC 07 to be released for this model.
    I also don't have an exact change log for the new BIOS and EC.
    Enjoy.
     
  24. amirfoox

    amirfoox Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't believe it, the latest BIOS actually fixed my fans issue! Thank you! Now the system is dead silent most of the time, and after a minute of closing a game the fans stop without having to jump through hoops to do so.

    THANK YOU!

    P.S: I got to tell you though, the BIOS flashing process was S-C-A-R-Y. The Windows took its sweet time to acknowledge the changes as well. I'm not doing that again with my brand new $3000 worth machine... :)
     
  25. cnduffey

    cnduffey Notebook Guru

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    Just to clarify - is there a reason why I shouldn't switch from a Sager BIOS to a CLEVO BIOS? Is it because it would be difficult to switch back to a Sager branded BIOS or is there some other reason that I'm not seeing?
     
  26. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    See the "!!!In the attention of all Sager users!!!" warning on page 1
     
  27. jonny27

    jonny27 Notebook Consultant

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    That being said, are these most recent BIOS at the front page Clevo or Sager's?
     
  28. jclausius

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    From reading the "changes" for each BIOS listing, I believe Clevos. You should be able to get Sager BIOSs from Sager's Tech support site. Blacky, could you please confirm?
     
  29. xi7

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    Wrong thread
     
  30. cnduffey

    cnduffey Notebook Guru

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    Yes, I've read that already. My original question is still:

    What is the difference between the Sager & Clevo BIOS's? It seems like a far easier option to just move to the CLEVO bios since their updates are readily available and I don't have to beg for updates through an email; it's asinine. Anyway, am I going to lose or gain functionality by switching from the Sager BIOS to the CLEVO?
     
  31. Zymphad

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    You will lose some things, like FN+1 for fan. But overall, nothing crippling or important. So it's fine to do that.
     
  32. Blacky

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    Yes, that is correct.
     
  33. Blacky

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    Wrong thread. But I would go with the 1202.
     
  34. Johnatas

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    How to know if my BIOS/EC is Sager one or Clevo one?
     
  35. Automatikjack

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    Where did that bios/ec come from? I don't see it available on the Clevo driver page... Can I get a confirmation that this will work with the Malibal p170em. From what I understand the malibals use clevo drivers and bios/ec.
     
  36. Blacky

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    You get a big splash-screen when you start your laptop on which it writes Sager (if it's a Sager).

    Of course it will work. But why not contact Mablibal directly for the latest BIOS ?
     
  37. Blacky

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    Double post. Sorry.
     
  38. emusic

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    I'm afraid not all retailers have their BIOSes up-to-date. :) For example, my DNS branded P170EM initially had BIOS from March, with VT-x disabled. In Clevo BIOS, VT-x had been enabled in May but when I asked DNS for their own BIOS version in August, they offered only March version or most recent Clevo version.
     
  39. KisSme

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    Hello !
    I have problem in BIOS upgrade for my P170EM
    I installed EC in first and after reboot i tryed to instal BIOS 1.00.10 and it says the following error :
    Code:
    Error 25: The host CPU does not have write access to the target flash area.  To enable write access for this operation you must modify the descriptor settings to give host access to this region.
    Why ?
    Where the problem ?
     
  40. emusic

    emusic Notebook Enthusiast

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    The problem is that you have not carefully read BIOS upgrade instructions. You missed step 2 in readme_BIOS_ME.txt.
     
  41. extide

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    Anyone have any experience with going backwards a version? With the latest flashes my fans don't work properly. On a clean boot my GPU fan doesn't turn on unless I run a GPU app, yet the low power use of the GPU eventually heats it up well into the mid 90's C. What kind of luck will I have flashing both the BIOS and EC back to the previous versions?
     
  42. yegg55

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    Experiencing similar problems with the fans, with the versions of EC/KBC V 1.00.07 & BIOS V 1.00.10.
    When try to downgrade the EC/KBC V 1.00.05 & BIOS V 1.00.05 (sager's files ECP150EM.SA and P150EM.LS1) I got a brick.

    Is expressed in an infinite cyclic (8-10 sec.) turning on / off the laptop.
    The screen remains black.
    My laptop (brick)) Clevo P150EM/ Sager NP9150/ DNS (0151825)

    So those who want to get the adequate fans management have to wait for the leakage of the latest versions of the EC/BIOS from the Sager.
     
  43. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    disregard, better not to downgrade EM BIOS & EC at all! see updaded initial post by blacky
     
  44. Blacky

    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, downgrading to a Sager version is included in the first post. You didn't use the right method.
     
  45. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have the same problem (fans not spinning fast enough since flashing the clevo P170HM bios and EC onto my NP8150).

    FN + 1 still speeds the fan up but not to full speed (I compared my temps with FN+1 vs connecting the fan directly to a USB port). FN + 1 doesn't give me the full fan speed anymore no matter if I use the latest NP8150 bios + EC or the clevo ones.

    Anyone recommend a P170HM bios + EC that had proper fan control (fast fans) and supports intel XTU?

    It's either that or I have to permanently leave my fans connected to a USB port to keep them at max speeds.
     
  46. amirfoox

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    Do you have a Sager or a Clevo?

    Because I have a Clevo, and this post got me a bit worried, but I don't seem to have this issue at all since fans behave as they should and games get to mid 70's after several minutes, as they always did.

    In what scenarios do you face these temps? What kind of games, for example?

    Oh, and it seems I was happy too soon, since after a 5-10 minutes of testing a game and closing it the fans still refuse to die down even at low temps such as 28 C until I open MSI Afterburner. So all in all, not worth the risk of updating, I'd say.
     
  47. yegg55

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    ...maybe )

    But all the same I suspect that led to the collapse of the downgrading as such, from 1.00.07 to 1.00.05. Regardless of the brand. IMHO.
     
  48. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    We cannot downgrade any of the latest Clevo/Sager BIOS for P170EM, P151EM, P150EM, W110ER, W150ER, W170ER...etc
    All of them will brick even when making the flash of BIOS & EC without shutdown!
    It is mostly because they contain new areas of code (they are full BIOS now), which where not provided in the regular older BIOS updates...
     
  49. Blacky

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    Time to amend the initial post.
     
  50. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    Damn. I was going to downgrade. Good thing I've been lazy. Hopefully Clevo releases a new EC/BIOS soon and that these aren't the last ones.
     
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