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    Clevo Bios older models (released in/after 2012)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. buckeyestargazer

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    Anyone?
     
  2. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Prema's BIOS adds a ton of extra features and sometimes bug fixes. I always use Prema's BIOS.
     
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    Hi all,

    I attempted to flash my P170em from version 1.0.0.3 to version 1.0.0.4 and something went wrong. What happened:
    1) flashed EC to version 1.0.0.5
    2) rebooted and checked BIOS: had BIOS version 1.0.0.3; EC 1.0.0.5
    3) booted into USB and flashed BIOS to version 1.0.0.4 and got the following error:
    Error 25: The host CPU does not have write access to the target flash area. To enable write access for this operation you must modify the descriptor settings to give host access to this region.
    (laptop was responsive)

    4) rebooted into BIOS and checked it: still had BIOS version 1.0.0.3; EC 1.0.0.5
    5) checked the config and all looked fine.
    6) rebooted laptop and have a black screen. After ~20s it shuts itself down afteer initializing the blu-ray reader.

    tried removing the drives, putting them back, the same with the GPU card, and no luck, still the same.

    Any ideas?
    Thanks!
    Jorge
     
  4. Blacky

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    Doesn't look good. Maybe you have a corrupted BIOS chip, at least it seems so.
    @Prema what's your opionion on the matter?

    I would say you need to replace your BIOS chip.
     
  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    He skipped the v4 EC and went straight to v5...
    On P1xxEM if the BIOS/EC are below 1.00.04 they need to be updated to 1.00.04 first before flashing any higher versions (first v4 EC then v4 BIOS).
    From that point onward you can use any later version.
     
  6. jorgehumberto

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    HI Prema/Blacky,

    Thanks you both for your feedback.

    @Blacky
    hum, and where could I find a programmed chip? I would guess it would involve some soldering around, but if the mobo is dead, I guess there's nothing to loose,cause the alternative would be a new mobo...


    @Prema
    hum, so that would be the problem. I assumed that being packaged together would mean they would work together. Any way to lower the EC version to v04 and then reflash it? or any other ideas?

    one thing that bugs me is when I try to do a blind flash, sometimes it picks up the usb stick and looks like its reading from it for about 30-40 s, but then shuts down. But once something different happened: laptop booted, was reading from the usb (at least the usb led was blinking) and the rebooted instead of shutting down. But once more it shut itself down after 30-40s... Any ideas?

    Thanks for all your help/feedback! :)

    Cheers
    J
     
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  7. Blacky

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    I think there is a good chance you might be able to recover your laptop if it reads from the USB chip.
    You need to update your EC first to 1.00.04 by blind flashing with your USB stick.
     
  8. jorgehumberto

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    @Blacky Ok, I will give it a try. What name should I give to the file? P170EM.rom? or simply EC.rom?

    thanks! :)
     
  9. Hawkss

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    Hey
    I dont understand which model i have in my bios it says MB Series: W150ER BIOS Version: 1.00.03 KBC/EC Firmware revision: 1.00.02
    but on the sticker wihich is on my computer it says w170er model.
    My specs are
    interl i7-3610qm cpu
    nvidia 650m
    8gb ram
    display 17 inch 1600x900
    My bios seems so old, i have to install all the updates one by one starting from the 1.00.06 version to 1.02.17?
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    What issues are you having currently? You only need to update if you are having problems on your current version.

    Motherboards are quite commonly shared between 15 inch and 17 inch models though there can be slight differences on soldered parts.
     
  11. Hawkss

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    Even if i am watching movie with power saver, lowest brightness my fan spins loud and my camera, ethernet port doesnt work . If i install the camera drivers it says no camera detected and if i install ethernet port drivenrs it works for like 2 min and then randomly stop working untill i reinstall drivers
    I just got new fan and new thermal paste. The fan goes up loudly for 1 min and down for some time and up again
     
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    Re: report my update Bios and upgrade to Windows 10 experience on a Clevo P170EM aka Origin PC, model EON17-S.

    Long time follower, first time poster. 2 reasons for the post.

    First to say thanks for all the work on putting together this thread and for the writing of the BIOS Updates. Thanks, thanks and thanks!!!

    Second to report my update Bios and upgrade to Windows 10 experience in hopes it may be of some benefit to others.

    I have a Clevo P170EM that I bought in 2012 for business purposes. It was purchased thru Origin PC, model EON17-S (Ivy Bridge) with an i7 3920XM extreme processor, 0 RAID using two SSD HDDs, GTX 675M graphics card, installed with Windows 7 Ultimate and came with BIOS version 5 EC/KBC 5. Once the system was stable, I locked it in and did no updates except for Windows security stuff. I use a secondary keyboard and mouse and a second large monitor in conjunction with the main Clevo screen.

    In addition to biz use, the Clevo serves as a Plex Media Server.

    I wanted to take advantage of Microsoft's free upgrade from Windows 7 x64 Ultimate to Windows 10 Pro. My research indicated my Bios should be updated to a Windows 8 level.

    In preparation for this adventure I did all forms of backing up, including Macrium Reflect to create an image of the drive to restore back to Windows 7 should this all go south. I had no luck in attempting to find official Bios updates from OriginPC, Clevo, XoticPC, and othe vendors.

    For the Bios update I used your P170EM_B17EC12. I followed your instructions and used Rufus to create the boot-able USB thumb-drive. I re-selected the O RAID option in the Bios after the flash and the Bios update worked perfectly.

    After fully updating windows 7 but not driver updates, I then made the Windows 10 update, making all selections along the way to get everything back to the way it was before the update. Windows 10 updated fine. 99% of everything is working. I have not yet updated any drivers. XTU and CPUZ had to be reinstalled. But peer block, private internet access are working. USB 3 needs some work, but I understand many are having that problem with the Win 10 update - regardless of their system so I'm starting to troubleshoot that one thing. The secondary keyboard, keyboard lights secondary mouse, external monitor all work fine.

    Plex media server FAILED to launch - Ugh! So I uninstalled it through Programs, went to the Plex website and downloaded the current version of PMS (NOT the native Windows 10 beta version). I reinstalled Plex and apparently the uninstall was smart enough to leave everything in place as Plex did a very quick install, and picked up all my libraries, meta-data and settings and devices. I didn't even had to log back into Plex as I was right back to where I was as if there was no windows 10 update.

    The Golf club game. As an aside, my GTX 675M 2 GB graphics card was for biz use and not gaming - hence it's being a 675. I installed The Golf Club game awhile back just to see what would happen and it was unplayable. I forgot to uninstall it and this morning I noticed that it was still on the machine - so I fired it up and was amazed at how smooth it played. I still haven't even updated the graphics drivers from Windows 7!

    So there you go. A big thanks.
    CurtisC
     
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  13. bodzio1809

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    Hi I updated my P150EM to last BIOS (BIOS/EC 1.02.17/1.02.11) according to this site and i can't update drivers after 2014. I am keep getting 43 error. Returning to 335.23 solves the problem, but I can't even launch new games. This is normal thing and I need to deal with it or there is a way to fix it?
     
  14. Davehillbo

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    Hi all,
    I have a P170EM laptop, and was wanting to update it to the latest prima bios , though I am unsure of what version my bios is on at the moment. CPUZ reports it as 4.6.5 dated 08/22/2012.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks

    David.
     
  15. Kostasgreece

    Kostasgreece Notebook Guru

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    Hello everyone! !! I have two laptops clevo p150hm and eurocom p150em. I need bios for them, but in bin format for the chips. Please help me !!
     
  16. Blacky

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    Thank you for your answer. No these files are not bin files and i don't know to make them to bin. I want the files inside the chip
     
  18. Blacky

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    Ah, I see, the programmer you are using requires bin files. I am afraid this is all we have.
     
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    Thank you again. I will be waiting, maybe someone have it .
     
  20. Automatikjack

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    Alright, zombie thread time,

    So I am considering upgrading my bios to Prema or the stock sager/clevo.
    currently I am on 1.00.05 for BIOS and EC.

    bottom of the laptop says p170em. Just wanted to make doubly sure that that means I should stick to the clevo side of the bioses should i stay vanilla. This was a Malibal rebadge.

    What I am I looking for? More features, more control, ideally fan control.

    Whats wrong? Well, nothing now, everything is peachy at the moment, had to rebake my 7970m so id like to be able to control that fan output a little more. Benchmarks yield acceptable 78C, though I'd be much happier if I could lower it, who uses the terrible speakers in this laptop anyways? Especially for games?
     
  21. Blacky

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    I would suggest go with stock and later on try with Prema. I never had trouble with BIOS updates and they are pretty safe if done correctly. Most of the time a BIOS flash fails if instructions are not read and followed correctly.
     
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    hi, I have a 150em. How do I disable the integrated graphics card? I want to see if it is causing conflicts with an nvidia driver error I'm getting that I've tried tons of solutions for with no avail and this is one solution I haven't tried yet
     
  23. Blacky

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    There should be a BIOS option for that. But I am not sure you can completely turn it off, if I remember correctly, output from the dedicated video card goes through the integrated GPU. Alternatively you can disable it from device manager.
     
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    You cannot disable the graphics card unfortunately. Even removing the card won't work as these machines apparently go crazy without having the gpu installed.

    Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi aweryone. Why in first page not preset bioses for Clevo p370em?
     
  26. Blacky

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    I have no idea. :))))
     
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    Where is find and download standart (normal, not prema) bios for my p370em and revisions?
     
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    Not for the EM series.

    You can't. Your display(s) are routed to the Intel HD Graphics chip; you uninstall the Intel driver for that and you'll lose your picture.

    There are custom BIOS/EC versions out there to prevent the EC from ramping the fans and throwing an alarm. I think @Aplaudible was asking about the Intel/integrated graphics, though, not the dedicated.
     
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    Hey guys, so I started this mini project to "re-kindle" my old Clevo - cleaned the heatsink/fans, reseated the CPU/GPU, replaced thermal pads/placed copper shims, upgraded to a SSD, re-installed OS and it pretty much feels like a new laptop.

    All that's left is to update my update the BIOS for my P150EM.

    Right now I'm on

    BIOS v1.00.05
    EC/KBC v1.00.05

    It's my first time updating a BIOS so I wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything. So I have a few questions -

    1. I downloaded the Clevo BIOS v1.02.17 and it only contains 3 files - 217.bat, AFUDOS.exe and P150EM17.CLE. Do I only need to run the 217.BAT then? Read through the instructions on the 1st post and since there's no update.bat in there, I assume I run the only BAT file in zip? Are there any steps after? Also downloaded the EC/KBC v1.02.12 but didn't have any questions there as the readme was pretty straight forward.
    2. Read a lot on this thread about the prema mod, so If I wanted to try it out after I've updated to the latest BIOS, can I flash back to the prior version? Does the prema mod update me to the latest EC/KBC as well? If so, I'm kind of leaning on just updating to that instead.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  31. Blacky

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    Ok, given you have a rather old EC/KBC I think you first need to update that, then the BIOS.

    Update first to EC/KBC V 1.02.11 and than the BIOS, otherwise you will brick your laptop. As it writes in the first page, for EC/KBC see below :).
     
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    I have a Sager NP9150. Today I noticed that I cannot access BIOS without the SSD installed. If I remove the SSD the initial "American Megatrends" splash screen comes up, but I cannot enter BIOS via F2 or F7. Then I get a DOS screen saying that the media failed or something like that.
    It seems to me like I should still be able to get into BIOS even with the SSD removed. I am concerned that if for some reason my SSD fails I will be stuck without a way to boot my computer. Do I somehow need to repair or reinstall the BIOS? Why does BIOS only become available when the SSD is attached?
     
  33. Blacky

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    I all honestly I have no idea why it's doing that. I suppose you could try for a bios update. But let's assume the SSD fails, how exactly are you going to use your laptop without a drive?
     
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    That's exactly my point. If somehow the BIOS relies on the SSD for something and I need to replace that particular SSD then I may not be able to boot the computer at all. I am in conversation with Sager about this now. Hopefully they will be able to get me sorted out.
     
  35. Blacky

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    I am fairly certain it has nothing to do with your SSD. The BIOS is just complaining you don't have a HDD/SSD drive . If you would pop in any other drive it will very likely work without a problem.
     
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    I turns out the problem was a Windows 10 setting "fast boot" or something like that. What it does is, instead of truly shutting down the computer, it puts it in a hibernation mode. So when the computer would boot back up without the SSD it would try to resume from hibernation and thus would not let me get into BIOS. After I turned off that fast boot setting in win10 I could remove the drive and get into BIOS. So mystery solved.
     
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    Wow ! Thank you. I learned something new today.
     
  38. Darondny

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    Hello everyone .. my first post here :)

    Maybe somebody had my problem..

    ..when the speed of CPU fan is going too high my laptop [P170EM-Novatech] is shutting down . That's since I've opened it up , or maybe from HWiNFO - it started to crash.. .

    If I put a GPU fan is no problem but the cooling is not enough ... I have also a new CPU fan.. the same.. shutdown when the speed goes too high.

    What could be? Maybe EC? I've put one from clevo.com.tw and still.. does some settings [as SmartAutofan,etc..] remain after firmware update?
    Thanks.. :D
     
  39. Zix

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    Hi, what are your current Bios/EC versions?
    Did you check the cpu temperature? maybe the shutdown is caused by thermal protection.
     
  40. Darondny

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    I've moved from 1.00.04 [Bios/Ec] all the way up to 1.00.10 hoping is going to fix it.. or to see some menu to control the fans .

    No problem with the temperature.. for this behaviour .


    maybe a video helps? :D

    Cheers

    P.S. How can I get a Prema mod ?
     
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  41. Zix

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    You can try an EC reset: turn the laptop off, remove battery, charger, and CMOS battery. Leave it off for a few minutes, and press the power button a few times to drain the electrical charge. Then reinsert the battery and AC adapter.

    You can find the latest versions of bios and EC in the first page.
     
  42. Darondny

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    I've removed everything.. cleaned the mobo.. still no change ..
    I see the stock Bios doesn't have fan controls... A Prema one have something (from what I've seen on youtube) , right?
     
  43. Zix

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    The Prema bios adds the function to set max speed for both fans (fn+9) and, if I remember correctly, the fan thresholds are changed.
    Both stock and Prema don't have fan controls in the bios settings.
     
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    I've put BIOS V1.02.17 and still no fix . It should remain a HW problem ... if there is no way that some settings-crashes from HWiNFO to remain after firmware update...

    https://ibb.co/i4BAPa [is an image link]
    the tacho is looking perfect..

    I appreciate your time , I'll help others on my turn when I'll be able to .. Thanks! :)
     
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    You are welcome, I hope you can find a solution soon. :)
     
  46. Raexaender

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    You could try if the clevo control center or clevo control app works on your model. Just download the newest version (5.0001.1.33) from the clevo homepage...you will have to choose a newer p-model (i think p9something) and download from the asian server....this program should let you choose fan-speeds
     
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    Interesting idea with a CC app from a newer device (sice for the old ones they don't provide any more support but it could be the same direction for compatibility) .
    Though is not responding to teh program :((


    ..curious that.. the GPU goes up to 70gr.C and then soowly spins , I can count the revolutions with the eyes :)) . And soon after 70 is a shutdown ..maybe because the CPU starts to heat up also 'to put more speed to the fan ( the fans stop like a brake and is like in cartoons.. oo-ohh ; 2 sec. after : like somebody unplugged from the mains , no more laptop =)) )
     
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  48. Raexaender

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    70°C actually isn't much for a laptop, I don't think it shuts off because of the temperature...maybe it tries to spin up the fan, somehow fails and then (to protect itself from getting hotter without being able to cool itself down) shuts off because of this error....but i'm really not an expert
     
  49. Darondny

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    Exactly! That's my feeling also.. but what it is? :))


    Edit: how can I reach a Prema Bios ?
    Edit II :

    In Bios says P170EMx .. as I'd expect..
    http://imgur.com/465JK1w
    .. but the strange part [for me] is.. why in RWeverything says P150HM ?
    http://imgur.com/OmW7lQl
     
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  50. Raexaender

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    Either the program falsly claims it's a 150hm or someone flashed a p170em bios on a p150hm (not likely....might not even be possible)....just turn around the laptop and look at the sticker on the bottom...it will tell you which model it really is.

    PS: the 170em is a 17 inch and the 150hm a 15 inch...so if your laptop is a 17 inch model it definetely is not a 150hm ;)
     
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