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    Clevo Driver Thread

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Atmosk, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Zacfer

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    Well, I downloaded it and tried it on my system regardless to see what would happen. The Intel drivers are OK since the release notes mention it's for both Win 7 & 8. The AMD drivers installed fine too, and I stopped having BSODs, temperatures in Kombustor were showing again etc - however, the driver seemed to introduce several problems I had before 12.11 beta like screen tearing in DX11 games (regardless of Vsync being on or off), overheating in games such as Alan Wake (temperatures of 94 degrees vs 82) and I had a feeling underutilization was back.

    Any other people tried it?
     
  2. Seanzky

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    Can someone provide the link please. I tried googling to the Taiwanese site and all I get is the old driver. Not sure where the Asia server is.
     
  3. Zymphad

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    AMD_W8.zip 9.1.0.0
     
  4. Seanzky

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    As always, thank you. I did try looking for it myself but today was probably only the second time I've ever explored the Clevo site and I had no idea where to look for those drivers.
     
  5. TrantaLocked

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    How did you get access to other servers? And why did they make it only for Windows 8? Cheap baastards.

    I'm not installing a new Clevo/Sager driver until it says: 7970M, Windows 7 64-bit.
     
  6. Seanzky

    Seanzky Notebook Evangelist

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    I already have it. I've had it since he posted the link above. I'm at 100% stable and 100% satisfied. :)
     
  7. Zymphad

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    Me too, liking it more than the 12.11 on AMD.com
     
  8. mahalsk

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    Maybe I missed something, but is this drirer for win 8 also compatible with win 7??? anyone tryed it ?? thanks
     
  9. Zymphad

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    I would think so. AMD drivers for 64bit usually are good for Vista/Win7/Win8. Maybe Clevo separated, but I doubt it.
     
  10. TrantaLocked

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    Seanzky, have you noticed any of the symptoms Zacfer was experiencing? My main concern is a dip in performance, because right now 12.11 beta11 is working very well besides the occasional blue screen. What advantages are there with this new one?

    I am also wondering why there is no Windows 7 version. I have been in e-mailing Sager and Clevo and here is what they both told me:

    Conversation with Allen Zhang, Sager Techsupport:

    Sager: Hi, Clevo has not released any updated AMD driver for Windows 7 so far.

    Me: Would you happen to know why they have not, or if they plan on releasing one?

    Sager: We do not have the information.

    Me: Could you contact Clevo and ask for me?

    No response yet.

    Conversation with Clevo Marketing:

    Clevo: Dear Brian, Could you please check with SAGAR we already updated the driver to SAGAR. or you can download the driver form our website will be fine.

    Me: I did check with Sager. The only new driver I have seen released last month and was labeled for Windows 8 in the Clevo download section. Sager also has a 7970M driver for Windows 8 released in October. I am looking for a new official release tested and designed for Windows 7 64-bit.

    No response yet.

    Sager and Clevo both respond as expected. Pretty sad.
     
  11. Zymphad

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    What is wrong with you? Its the same driver.
     
  12. Axon14

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    All,


    Any help with activating the onboard microphone? I'd like to use teamspeak and skype. Pulling my hair out a bit. Any help is welcome. Please advise. Thanks.
     
  13. vuman619

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    ^ this
    10char
     
  14. TrantaLocked

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    Hulawafu, if it is the same driver then why does it have new problems? It has been fine tuned by Clevo for its own laptops, and thus it is different than AMDs original driver. I want to know if anyone is seeing any of those symptoms that Zacfer was.

    By the way, Clevo just replied to my last message:

    "Could you contact with DSAGER the driver CD version 1.00.12 they already have in their hands. and the driver we will update on our webside later."

    I will be keeping a lookout for this update.
     
  15. napster28

    napster28 Notebook Guru

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    i have problem with bf3 crash atidxx32.dll not work with driver 12.11 instead with 12.10 fully work,because?
     
  16. mahalsk

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    I have problems with launching bf 3 since I installed the first 12.11 beta driver. It launches every 10th time or so, it depends. Recently I bought a ssd disk and did a clean new install but the problem remains, so if anybody knos a fix for this pleae share it :) thank
     
  17. Zymphad

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    Install the Clevo 12.11. Also don't do the clean uninstall methods, that is one cause of the atidxx32.dll. BTW did you reinstall BF3 also? I wonder if that is needed, Origin is not as good as Steam when it comes to moving directories etc.

    Because Zacfer has issues, it must be true. Good stuff. But installing drivers is hard, I know.

    If time is money, then the 680M is a whole lot cheaper for your Trantalocked. You have more issues with the 7970M than pretty much everyone else combined, other than the few exceptions, who are in the same boat as you. I would think getting a different GPU would be in your best interest. Nothing seems to satisfy you and you have endless issues that I don't see being posted on other forums or here for the matter.
     
  18. napster28

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    on cd clevo there are 12.11? I did clean with driver fusion and the problem of atidxx32 persists...
     
  19. Zymphad

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    Driver Fusion is probably the culprit for your atidxx32.dll issue. Driver Fusion does not support switchable graphics and I do not think they are taking account for people who do have switchable graphics. When it comes to switchable graphics, just follow the instructions your OEM and manufacturer provides. There isn't anything wrong with their install/uninstall instructions. NONE of them tell you to use registry cleaners and driver cleaners.

    It's not on the CD, it's on Clevo's website. I also posted a link to the 12.11. And I've looked in the iNF, it supports Win8 and Win7.
     
  20. TrantaLocked

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    Hulawafu, I don't know what has gotten into you. I was asking people if they were seeing those problems with the new Clevo driver. If you want to know what problems I personally am having with 12.11 beta11, I am mostly seeing occasional blue screens. Are you telling me that some occasional blue screens add up to more than the problems everyone else is having combined? Yeah, I don't like blue screens, and now you're blaming me for that?

    And how do you question Zacfer? What if you started reporting on issues you were having; would you like me to just say "oh It's just a fluke, hulawafu is just doing it wrong." You really are full of yourself you punk.
     
  21. hackness

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    Bluescreen spam was what I was seeing before my first GTX 680M died, just saying.
     
  22. TrantaLocked

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    Is that a common issue with 680Ms? I don't think it is, as far as I know. Everyone that I have talked to that has tried one of AMDs drivers (non Clevo) for the 7970M have experienced blue screens. Hulawafu is probably avoiding them by setting the powerplay plugged in option to battery saving before shutting down, a practice I should start applying myself.
     
  23. hackness

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    Well I haven't had a single BSOD with the 2nd GTX 680M so I guess BSOD isn't common with 680Ms, may be you could try what you just said for your HD7970M.
     
  24. kookiesandmilf

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    wrong thread sorry.
     
  25. jaybee83

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    just to add to the bsod issues: seems to be related only to EM machines. HM laptops dont have any bsods whatsoever, no matter which driver versions are installed ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  26. Seanzky

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    No issues whatsoever. The BSOD others have experienced, I haven't seen since I first got my laptop and wrongly installed an unofficial driver. As for the tearing, none.

    Hulawafu said that it looked like Clevo based that driver off of AMD's Performance driver which gave me problems. So after installing the latest Clevo drivers, albeit labeled for Win 8, those are the issues I first looked for. I rebooted over and over to see if I would get black screens, looping audio, screen tearing or anything else, but I got none. It's been a while already and I still have yet to see a problem.
     
  27. Seanzky

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    With all due respect, I think that's a myth. I've been upgrading my AMD and Intel drivers like crazy and I've never experienced any of those problems. I've never done a fresh OS install or used driver cleaners or registry cleaners, ever, either. I'm not saying people who has reported BSODs are lying, by any means. I do believe, however, that somewhere during or between the uninstall of the old drivers and installation of the new ones you guys did something wrong. I've never steered from my old-as-dirt methods of simply uninstalling, rebooting when asked, then reinstalling, and rebooting again. It's that simple and I swear I've never had a BSOD from that.

    The one and ONLY time I ever got a BSOD was when I first got the laptop and I saw nVidia PhysX and thought "wait, I don't have nVidia, this must have been mistakenly installed" and then uninstalled it. On top of that, I installed new AMD drivers I thought were for our 7970M card. As soon as I rebooted, BSOD. I went to recovery and went back to the hour I first turned on my laptop and everything was back to normal. Since then, I've been installing Intel and AMD drivers with each and every update. I have never, ever seen a single hiccup except for the AMD performance drivers which caused games to freeze upon launch (what many here called the black screen, with looping audio).

    I'll repeat again, just stay away from registry cleaners and driver cleaners. I also stay away from hacked and unofficial drivers. By that I mean not from AMD, Intel or Clevo. I also have never tried mixing and matching drivers from Clevo and AMD. The only time I did something similar to that was installing only the display drivers over an older one to keep the CCC working... and that was just one time.

    I know that keeping your computer fresh, updated and pristine is like an OCD for most of us here and we like our files and drivers and registry tidy, efficient and only to keep what is needed. But keep in mind that when AMD releases a driver, they expect that the old drivers will simply be uninstalled by the users and the new ones installed afterwards. They assume whatever files or registry entries the old drivers left behind upon installation are still there when the new drivers are being installed. If you do a thorough cleaning, you've already steered from AMD's intentions and that can lead to problems. After all, they simply said to uninstall the old ones, reboot and install the new ones and then reboot one last time. That's it. They never told anyone to do anything else beyond that.
     
  28. Seanzky

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    Nope, it has nothing to do with the EM or it's switchable display design. I believe it's user error, if you read my post above.
     
  29. jaybee83

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    well i believe its probably both. the switchable graphics design just makes the way u install ur drivers critical, whereas with dGPU only systems it doesnt really matter how u do it, it just works :)
     
  30. Srikar

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    Sorry, but no. It is not a myth and is extremely common. It's not user error either because I install my drivers the same way you described in that other post. I only restart when it asks to and I just uninstall and reinstall. Hell, sometimes I'll just install over.

    I did not get common BSODs until I installed 12.11 beta 6. Beta 3 was fairly stable (although it did get the same BSODs very rarely) any every driver before that did not cause any BSODs at all when rebooting. With the beta performance drivers, every single time I tried rebooting on power, I got a BSOD.

    Likewise, my CCC is not stable at all on the beta drivers. It crashes and will not load any time I make any changes to the 3D options until I delete user.bib. I've tried many versions of the beta and all crash the CCC while stock is 100% stable even if I switched over to it now.
     
  31. TrantaLocked

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    Thanks for the responses everyone. Does Clevo's new driver have better performance than beta11 in any games or is it pretty much the same?
     
  32. kookiesandmilf

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    Always uninstall Afterburner before installing the latest drivers. it can create a BSOD loop if you're unlucky.

    other than that, i've never had any BSOD due to the driver itself, its been beta11 has been quite rock solid for me.
     
  33. Zacfer

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    Aw, you're so cute.

    Anyway, back to topic: I will repeat that I downloaded the 7970M Windows 8 latest drivers from Clevo (dated 28/12/12) from both the Asia and Europe server links there. I checked the timestamps, and confirmed that the ones from Asia are the latest ones, and proceeded to install them on my system which is running Win 7 x64, after I uninstalled the previous ones (express uninstall all AMD software). I also installed the latest Intel drivers from Clevo but that was fine because the notes mentioned it's for Win 7 as well.

    As for the AMD drivers, maybe my problems come from the fact that they were intended for Win 8. I only said I tested them. The BSODs and weird behaviour from CCC was gone, everything looked fine in Afterburner and Kombustor etc (which doesn't happen with 12.11 beta). Besides that, it looked like these drivers brought back all the old problems I had with previous driver releases - mainly screen tearing only in DX11 games, poor performance (I tested Saints Row 3 in DX11 in both 12.11 beta and the Clevo driver), and high temperatures were back in Alan Wake. So to me, it didn't look like it was the Enduro Performance driver that AMD released, because the few times I managed to get that working (before a second reboot etc), those problems didn't show up.

    By all means please test it out yourselves, this is only what I've experienced on my system. It would be good to know if other people experience different behaviour on their systems, that would mean that I've done something wrong.
     
  34. TrantaLocked

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    Clevo confirmed through e-mail that there is indeed a new Clevo-7970M driver being tested for Windows 7. I am guessing it is 9.1.0.0 based like the Windows 8 version currently out, but we will see. If 13.1 WHQL ends up still having the boot up BSOD issue, I will go with the new Clevo driver until AMD releases another stable beta that offers some good performance fixes.
     
  35. LBJade

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    Is anyone experiencing here of auto shutdown due to GPU overheating while playing counterstrike GO? My system is Sager 8150 with GTX580m, the temp goes up to 97C when im playing CS go for just 20-30 mins of playing time. I have the updated driver from nVidia. Could anyone share what i need to do to lower the temps? thanks,
     
  36. Srikar

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    That's not really a driver-related issue...

    Clean the dust out of the laptop and maybe repaste the GPU.
     
  37. LBJade

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    how do you repaste the gpu? i can already remove the GPU by following the disassemble guide but how will i perform repaste on it? thanks.
     
  38. MrDJ

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    have you cleaned your fans and vents out first with a can of compressed air. this should be done as soon as you see temps creeping up so every 3-6 months. dust build up can amount to upto 10c in raised temperatures.
    also what do you use to monitor your temps. lots of software to choose from in my signature below. i recommend nvidia inspector, core temps and msi after burner.

    in your post above you say you can already remove the gpu. does this mean you have already done that. the gpu and cpu need thermal paste like IC diamond/mx2/mx4. once you have removed the card you need to clean the old past off and reapply a very small amount in the middle so the card get a full contact with the board.
    ive never done it myself but there are walkthroughs on here somewhere. try a search.
     
  39. Zymphad

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    Good advice
     
  40. jaybee83

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    mrdj? never applied thermal paste urself? seriously? wow wouldnt have expected that from u ;)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  41. MrDJ

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    not through choice mate. im blind in one eye and ridden with arthritis so anything intricate for me sadly is a definite no no now.
    thats why i always take out extended warranty on lappys as if anything needs doing i can drop it off too mysn as they are only a hour away.
     
  42. jaybee83

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    well alright, theres a good reason if there ever was one :) sorry to hear that buddy!
     
  43. MrDJ

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    warning off topic alert :)
    no worrys mate. had arthritis now for 28 years and was told i would be in a wheelchair within 6 months of its diagnosis. they was almost right as i was on crutches for 9 years. then a new wonder drug was released and i was a test subject. infusion every 6 weeks which will eventually shorten my life but after the first 3 hour infusion i threw away the crutches and havnt used them ever since. still in constant pain though. lost site in left eye 18 years ago thanks to the arthritis but my good eye luckily compensates for it and i can still drive my new 3 series bmw without any problems. might as well have a bit of luxury with all the crap ive had to put up with. still like a bit of gaming but have to limit it as get eye strain quickly now.

    oh well, onwards and upwards.

    back on topic now :D
     
  44. hackness

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    Well all you can do now is enjoy your life :D Talking about BMW, my dad has just bought a BMW ActiveHybrid 7 2 days ago :D.
     
  45. MrDJ

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    got my clevo, got my bmw, against advice give me the fastest rollercoaster out there and im happy.
    not seen one of the active hybrid yet, whats it like? ive always been a petrol head but this one is diesel and twice as fast as my previous model. oh we love torque in diesel :D
     
  46. hackness

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    Got the black one and was customized by BMW individual. All lights are LED and for illumination, really bright. Front lights moves slightly and accordingly as you move the steering wheel. Front seats are pretty large, seats are very adjustible, a large % of the skins are black merino.

    Back seats have got 2 pretty large LCD screens, able to watch TV programs too, very adjustible seats too. Car doors do give me a feeling they are very light when opening and closing. Most improtant thing in this model is the moment when the car goes from stop to start, the motor kicks in as a support unit instead of letting the engine does it all by itself, it does feel powerful :D.
     
  47. MrDJ

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    sounds great. ive got the zenon responsive lights and they are so much better than standard lights. worth the £850 upgrade.
     

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    Looks great! Front lights look exactly the same as the Activehybrid 7 :D.
     
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    hi i already saw the part where the thermal paste should be put its in between the heatsink and the main chip of the GPU(i saw the gray paste when i removed the heat sink). But i have not yet bought a paste(IC9 they said its the best). anyway i tried first to clean the exhausts, fans and everything through a vacuum cleaner and yes it did lower the temps by 10C! my idle now is 45-48C. when i play CS Go and sleeping dogs my maxtemp is 91C, but steady mostly at 85-88C. I know this not yer the best temps if i will perform repaste but for now its good for me. :)

    Also im using msi afterburner and nvidia tool to monitor the temps.
     
  50. RMXO

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    Try getting a notebook cooler like the NotePal U3 to see if it can help lower the temp a bit. It might not be drastic but every degree counts in the long run. Of course, this is if you don't have one already.
     
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