Clevo Guide v2.0 - FAQ and Reseller Info

Is this legit? How does this work?

 

Yes, it is legit. Just go to the link to see how it works. It is only offered by Channel builders, it is not available from any of the Multi National Brands.

 

So after I would buy a notebook from either Powernotebooks or XoticPC with Vista, I could get all that essentially free stuff?

 

That is correct! You just go to that link and fill in your purchase information and select your goodies

 

My goodness, paladin44 - customer service and free goodies? How spoiled can a consumer get? I smell a rat, 'cause _Dell, _HP, _Sony, and Toshiba sure don't do that.:wink:

 

Is it just with Vista Ultimate?

 

Click the link and it will show what you get with each version.

 

Well, I`m not in the US just yet, so I was just gathering information. Besided, I can`t make heads or tails out of that site

 

Hello there, was just inquiring if anyone knew the best method to get a Clevo M570-U either in Singapore or Japan (I have a friend who is coming from japan and is purchasing a notebook) with a UK/American standard keyboard, for as cheap as possible (the Australian resellers are, like all electronics in our country, hideously expensive). Was thinking either duty free, or ordering within japan and then posting it here (though i think i need to pay import tax then... which i would like to avoid).

Any suggestions?

 

Welcome to the NBR forums.

if you are in Japan, you should check out:
- http://www.mouse-jp.co.jp/
- http://www.g-tune.jp

Or you can get it from a US vendor that ships internationally:
(these are best for pricing and service/support)
- www.xoticpc.com
- www.pcmicroworks.com
- www.rjtech.com

 

Agreed. And XoticPC delivers worldwide, and offers great discounts! Oh and they're very reputable!

 

Thank you very much! I was hunting for quite a while, and your forum is a veritable treasure trove of information, though its a shame that I can't seem to get a notebook from Japan with a English standard keyboard, so it looks like I'll go the xoticpc route, they seem more than reliable enough and it ends up saving me something like $1500AUD!! :S
Will i still need to pay import tax on my purchases over-seas, given that Australia has a FTA with America? I did some research and couldn't find anything conclusive, so if anyone has had any experience in Australian-USA import/export, that would be perfect.
I had a look on there website, and I've sent off an email, but im curious as too what, if any, discounts that are available to me as a university student?

 

Theres a 50% off on shipping discount for students... but that's not applicable for international shipping

 

First things first -
Gophn
Thanks for putting this guide together. I have been researching for my new laptop for about 2 months.
Using this guide I played with all of the configurators. My final budget didn't allow me to get the Sager NP9262. I ended up with the NP5793 from Powernotebooks.

Silver trim
nVidia 8800 GTX w/512
Intel core 2 duo T9300 2.5 ghz
2 GB DDR2/667
100 GB HD 7,200 rpm
DVD+/-R/RW CD-R/RW
Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 802.11 a/g/n
bluetooth
XP Pro
$2114.00
$45.00 S & H
For a total of
$2459.00

Service and response from Powernotebooks was excellent. I received my laptop, from CA to FL, in 5 business days. That's from their shelf to my door.
I couldn't be happier with it. This is my second clevo. My first was a Sager 5600V, 1 Gb Ram, Ati Radeon 9000, Pent 4 2.8 M. I just gave it to my wife.

 

We'll just see how long that state of affairs lasts.:wink:

 

i am going to sell my laptop every 8-12 months from now on. so I can keep up with the newest tech.

my uncle has been doing that for about 20 years with cars and trucks.

every year he sells his new car and gets a new one.

he does have 3 cars and a truck tho.

and makes about 80,000+ more than me a year in clear cash.

hmm.

i think i will stick to notebooks hehe.

 

I've actually adopted this idea for graphics cards. I used to upgrade my video card every few years. But starting with the 6 series, I've gotten the 2nd best card from each series (so 6800GT, 7800GTX, and now on 8800GTS)while selling the other one and only paying about 75-100 dollars each time to upgrade. This way I can save some cash while at the same time staying close to the top in terms of graphics horsepower.

 

I used it for gaming and modding the whole time I had it. I only had a few problems with it. I 512 stick of ram went bad, and the motherboard went out(I think it was due to a power surge though, yes I was using a surge protector).
Total of about $600 spent on it over 5+ years. She has a Dell desktop with a pent 3 and 384 gb ram . I can't get her to upgrade. She's only using the laptop for Cub Scouts, pack secretary.

 

hello i live in australia and was wondering if you guys happen to know a good reseller

 

I know of a good one in Nebraska, USA, and in Nevada, too! You didn't want them to be in OZ did you?


EDIT: Didn't think I should start Monday off being nothin' but a jerk, so - the only AUS reseller of Clevos that I am aware of (I'm sure there're more) is Pioneer Computers in Alexandria, NSW.

(Well, whaddya know - in Sydney - I thought the name sounded vaguely familiar; I did a little business w/ em the last time I was there on ... "extended stay"

 

Does anybody know if there is any reseller in Belgium?

 

In Belgium, I couldn't find one (yet).
If you're interested in the M570RU: look at xxodd.nl and laptops4u.nl
For the D901C: maybe try xxodd.nl (but I'm not sure whether they have it there) or rockdirect.com (UK based)

 

Ok thanks.

 

I've found one in Belgium!!!

http://www.discoveries.be/index.htm

 

And they even have both the M570RU and the D901C
No prices online though
Should you call them: could you put them here?

 

I'm trying to crack the excel password so see te prices but maybe I'll send them an e-mail

 

I already done...

 

The password or the e-mail?

 

Well just only to have a look, will not email them...

 

You feel like sharing it?

 

First thanks for this, helped me out so much.

Ok so I’ve been looking for a new laptop for some time now and after reading this review im definitely ganna go for the Clevo 900K but now I have a new problem, what processors to get, there are so many, basically I love gaming so I need a good one. Obviously the X9000 would be the best choice running at 2.8 Ghz but its really expressive. So what about E6850 3.0GHz 1333FSD but is only has 4MB L2 cache compared to the 6MB of the X9000. Then there is the Q6700 2.66ghz quad core and so on.

So if anyone can lend any advise it would be much appreciated

thanks again.

 

Welcome tot he NBR forums.

Sorry, I think you might mean the Clevo D900C... since the D900K is phased out... my guide is quite outdated.

In any case here is my famous post:
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For $2000+, I do not recommend getting an overpriced Alienware, Dell XPS, or VoodooPC.. its just a rip off when you can get the same or better notebooks from other resellers for better prices.
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look at these two models, they will be the notebooks to beat for 2007-2008:

Clevo M570RU (a.k.a. Sager 5792/3, Rock Xtreme 770, etc.)

This will be the best 17" gaming notebook for the money for 2007-2008.

No rip-off pricing like others that will be in its class, Dell XPS, Alienware, etc..


Read the reviews here (they are newly posted):
Sager NP5793 Review (by NotebookReview)
Sager NP5791 Review (by NotebookReview)
Clevo M570RU Review (Very Basic)
Sager NP5790 Review – Photos, Benchmarks & Impressions
Sager NP5790 (Clevo M570RU) User Review

Highlights:
- up to 17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200)
- new mobile Core 2 Duo's (Santa Rosa) Socket P & mobile Core 2 Extremes
- up to 4GB DDR2
- interchangeable MXM-IV videocard (8700M GT or 8800M GTX)
- standard Optical bay (ready for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD)
- Full keyboard w/ Numpad
- Built in TV Tuner
- Fingerprint Reader

These notebooks should be starting around $1800.

Check out this HOT model by Sager and their resellers.
- www.xoticpc.com (ships internationally)
- www.powernotebooks.com
- www.pcmicroworks.com
- www.rockdirect.com
- www.eurocom.com (Canada based)
... more in the Clevo Guide for more resellers.

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Clevo D900C (a.k.a Sager 9262, Pro-Star 9191)

Best of the best notebook in the world. PERIOD.

There is no other notebook in the world that can match this.


Read the reviews here (they are newly posted):
Sager NP9260 First Thoughts (pics, video)
Sager NP9260 Full Review
Sager NP9260 ( Clevo D900C ) Review (Pics, Specs and Benchmarks)
Sager NP9262 User Review
Sager NP9262 - 8800M GTX - Benchmarks / Review

Highlights:
- up to 17" WUXGA (1920 x 1200)
- desktop Core 2 Duo/Extreme & Core 2 Quad-core CPUs (G0 stepping)
- up to 4gigs DDR2
- up to dual interchangeable MXM-IV videocards (SLI-mode), 8700M GT or 8800M GTX
- 3 internal HDDs [w/ RAID 0,1,5] - up to 960GB of storage
- standard optical bay (can house HD-DVD and Blu-Ray drives)
- Built in TV Tuner
- Full keyboard w/ Numpad

These notebooks should be starting around $2100.

Mobile Workstation Ownage

Check out the following sites for it:
- www.powernotebooks.com
- www.xoticpc.com (ships internationally)
- www.pcmicroworks.com
- Eurocom (Canada-based)
- www.rjtech.com
- www.rockdirect.com
.... and much more in the Clevo Guide

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Differences:

The D900C is a desktop replacement with more power (desktop CPU and SLI interchangeable MXM videocards, less batterylife, and more storage (3 HDDs).

The M570RU is a powerful notebook with optimal power (new mobile CPUs and single interchangeable MXM videocard, better batterylife, and single HDD.

So these notebooks are both powerful, but has different features that makes them distinct from consumer to consumer.

They are both great machines, but the D900C is more costly but powerful... while the M570RU has better portability (batterylife and weight) and still has a great amount of power.

Its just up to you on what would fit you better.

Hope this helps,
-Gophn

 

I wouldn't fixate too much on the size of the L2 Cache. In terms of gaming, your biggest issue will typically be the GPU, and the differing cache size will only really make a difference at the margins, and only if the CPU is doing extremely data-intensive work (which it shouldn't be with most gaming because the hardest work's been pushed out onto the GPU). A bigger concern would be the extent to which you plan on having peripherals like USB devices plugged in - too many are more likely to bog down performance than the difference in cache size.

One way to evaluate this would be to look at the benchmark data that others have posted for their systems, break it down by CPU, and see how they compare against each other - it's better to take a holistic view of the entire processor/system than just one part of the CPU itself.

 

Thanks for the advise Gophn and Shyster,
I’m a bit wary at the moment about getting a new laptop simply coz I didn’t make the wisest choice on my last, in terms of CPU, some crappy Pentium M. I bought the laptop in Hong Kong at Christmas of 2004 and chose it for its 256MB GPU, plus it was mega cheap 8000 HKD which at the time was about 600 GBP/1000 USD give or take. Probably coz it was made by some company that no one has ever heard of ‘STAMP’. I’ve had absolutely no problems with it tho and its only now not being able to play the latest games and I’m pretty sure is coz of the processor.

My new question to you would be, if you had a max of 3000 USD to spend what system spec would u personally go for?

One last question. With the D900C, if purchased with a single graphics card, would it be possible to then later add another myself like you would a Hard drive. I don’t see why this would not be possible I just want to make sure coz I am considering upgrading it over time as I get more cash rather than just blow it all at once and put myself in fanatical s#$t. (I’m a student you see, not much money)

Once again thank you for all your help.

 

yes, you can add your second videocard youself... as well as any 2nd or 3rd HDD yourself.

Its all in the User Manual as well.

 

where would you say the best place to buy the 9262 from of you live in the UK?
aslo where could i get a 8800m for the 9262?

 

you can get a Clevo D901C in the UK through vendors like:
- www.rockdirect.com
- www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk

getting the additional or separate 8800M GTX module can be done through those vendors.

For US, you can mainly go through a couple of distributors to get the separate card:
- Sager
- Pro-Star
- Eurocom
... some others that go through these distributors.

 

are thier any other plcaes in the UK that sell it?

 

Hah! You think you picked badly the last time around? Wanna swap for a 5 y.o. _Sony vaio with, as I like to put it, 1.3 G erbil Hz under the hood?

Anyway, you've come to the right place to educamate yourself, as I've been slowly doing for about 6 months now (well, at least I learned how to play around with the coding toys in posts )( Yup, you read that right, "educamate" - dunno, just like it sometimes).

If I had a max of US$3,000 to spend (which I don't, yet, just a few more weeks), and I was going to configure a D901C (which I do anyway, about once a week, usually on xotic or powernotebooks ), I would configure something like the following:

D901C/NP9262 base model
17" WUXGA (1920x1200)
Intel Q6600 CPU
Single NVidia 8800M GTX
2GB RAM in one (1) DIMM
Single 160GB 5400rpm HDD
No second or third HDD, and no RAID (obviously )
WinXP Pro
2 year parts & labor warranty

At XoticPC that builds out to US$2,956 (US$2,867.32 if I get the cash discount), which with shipping would come out to just about US$3,000 - no sales tax (because I don't like in Nebraska).

My rationale for these choices is as follows:

• 1920x1200 - I'm tired of a tiny little screen, I want to get into some semi-serious editing of the digital pixs I get with my Pentax K10D DSLR.
• Q6600 - Having sc**wed myself with a puny little 1.3GHz Centrino, I may be going a little overboard on this, but it's a good processor at a good price, and should give me enough room to use the system comfortably for another 5 years, and, since I want to start doing something serious with my pix, may prove useful if that hobby blossoms.
• Single 8800M GTX - Since I know without a doubt that I can add a second GPU in at a later date, once I've saved up some more $$, going with only one GPU is, to my mind, a good cost-saver that will let me at least get the system.
  I've been toying with the idea of going with the Quadro FX1600M since it just became available, which would cut another $190 off the initial purchase price, but ultimately I don't think I'll go that way because it strikes me as penny-wise/pound-foolish in that, if/when I wanted to go to SLi 8800Ms, I would have to buy two instead of just one, and would end up with a useless Quadro FX1600M that I would then have to try and flog on eBay - I'm quite sure that the difference between what I would be paying for one of the 8800Ms and what I would get for a used Quadro FX1600M would be more than $190.
• 2GB RAM in one stick - Basically, since XP can't see all of 4GB, this seems like another reasonable compromise to enable me to get the system in the first place. Also, I'm not really an uber-gamer, so I don't know if I really need paired 2GB sticks right now. Also, the 1-stick configuration is there so that, either in a month, or two years, I can upgrade to a full 4GB without ending up with two useless sticks of used 1GB RAM.
• Single 160GB 5400rpm HDD - I have no interest in RAID (at least not software RAID), so I don't need multiple drives to start off with; also, since it's relatively trivial to add drives to this system, that's another easy cost-cutter that gets me the system without having any serious deleterious consequences in the future (one of the things I really like about these systems). In addition, since I've had serious hdd travails with the _Sony, I've been paying a lot of attention to the market for hdds and prices have been plummeting, to the point where it would probably end up being cheaper for me to not get the 2d or 3d drives (or a bigger, faster 1st drive) initially and to just wait until I have a more concrete need/desire for more drives.
  This option is actually the one I waffle around the most on. I'd really like to have a 7200rpm drive - mainly just 'cause its faster - but based on my current system (which has a 160GB 5400rpm drive) the option I listed would be a perfectly adequate starting point.
• WinXP Pro - Vista's improving, but the cost/benefit analysis still favors XP. I'd go with Pro instead of Home because Pro has some capabilities that were turned off in Home, and MS will provide security support for Pro longer than for Home.
• 2 Year parts&labor - just in case; but not to the point of paranoia. Also, since this system would basically stay at home and not get moved around in any high-risk hi-jinks, I don't feel that the accidental LCD protection would be justified.

So, that's the configuration I'd probably get if I had US$3,000 to drop on a D901C/NP9262 from xoticpc.

As you can see (and as I've explained ad nauseam, just in case you didn't ), the system I would get is significantly less than maxxed out; however, that is precisely one of the things I really like about this system - I can save some money on the initial purchase by getting less than the best components without cutting off the possibility of upgrading to better equipment in the future at a cost that's significantly less than the cost of a brand-new system.

This is a particular point with me since the VAIO is almost utterly non-upgradeable and right now I feel like a 100' tree stuck in a porch planter - my roots need room to expand!

 

LOL Shyster1. I was thinking about getting the exact same thing now that I've heard 45nm Quad won't be here till Q3 this year, and probably won't be mainstream (read cheap enough for me) until early next year.

But I don't need the powerful GPU. The lowest Xoticpc would let me go (and save some moola) is the quadro. Maybe I can ask Justin to let me take out the Quadro and stick in a 8400GS instead, and shave $300 bucks of the price. You think he'd go for that?

 

It isn't up to the dealer, or even Sager, to change the video card spec. That is a Clevo spec and can't really be changed. However the Quadro FX 1600M is essentially equivalent to the 8700M so that would probably be your best choice, and you will save $160.

 

Lets say if I switch to 8400GS, will I get a little tiny winy bit more battery life out of it? Note that I realize if I want to get this kind of machine I shouldn't be thinking about battery life. Assuming that I can do this on my own.

I would probably also want to stick in my cingular WWAN card. You think it will work without special antenna wiring on this machine?

 

Unfortunately the 8400GS is not a option. Is your Cingular card a standard express card?

 

It should be a standard express card, I have it in my Dell Latitude right now. I'm thinking of ripping it off and stick it in the Quad core if/when I get one.

Edit: Huh, I wasn't thinking. It is not an Express Card, instead it is a built-in mini-PCI card.

 

I've found a reseller in Belgium ( www.discoveries.be is a Distributor...).
Here: www.pointersystems.be but you can't config them there but if you contact one of their resellers you can config them

 

Funny ... just 1 of the resellers have the M570RU advertised (if I remember correctly)
+ pointersystems themselves advertise it with the 8700M, not with the 8800M ^^

 

can u purchase direct from clevo??

 

No you cannot purchase direct from Clevo, that is why there are resellers.

 

I've got 2 resellers who got it but it is with the 8800m GTX, what's on the site is just old ^^

 

prices?