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    Clevo M980NU aka Sager NP 9850 aka AWESOMENESS!!!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Miss Malevolent, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    I'd love to have the extra real estate in a bigger screen but I have to take my rig wherever I go in the world, along with all of my other luggage.

    Looks like RMPG505, already has one of these screens in their W90.
     
  2. NGH

    NGH Notebook Evangelist

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    I've seen an 18.4" Sony notebook live at a sonystyle store and it really doesn't seem that much bigger than a 17". The Sony RGB LCD was the best I've ever seen in a notebook.
     
  3. Miss Malevolent

    Miss Malevolent Notebook Consultant

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    I certainly would take it everywhere I go.

    I think it's huge, but that's a good thing. I don't feel it will be too heavy or bulky or anything. I would never get tired of carrying it around.
     
  4. Rob41

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    I've heard others say the same thing about the laptop not seeming very much bigger.

    An RGB LED screen would have been a nice option on the M17. Any chance it will be offered as an option on the M980NU?
     
  5. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    led takes different connectors and everything it would have to be a semi redesign .... possible but not likely @ all
     
  6. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    Dell has at least one model where an LED backlit screen is an option.
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yea, it can be done but it require different plugs .... just like i said :)
     
  8. sleey0

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    Don't let zfactor see this! lol

    He really gets on ppl about the whole inverter issue.

    Basically, if there was never an option for LED to begin with than it is nearly impossible to do an aftermarket upgrade to LED.
     
  9. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    hence why i said a redesign .... read above :)
     
  10. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Yeah.... :confused:

    I was just trying to say that if zfactor saw the conversation in this thread he would be all over us....
     
  11. NGH

    NGH Notebook Evangelist

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    When is the official launch of "the awesomeness?"
     
  12. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    no official date but it could be any time soon.
    people are already saying that their supplier has them in stock but i doubt this very much as they have not been released by clevo yet.
     
  13. RMPG505

    RMPG505 Notebook Consultant

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    Hiya ;-) Yes, the W90 shares the same screen as the 9850 from what I was told by a reseller who has seen this model at Sager already. It's a beautiful screen, though reflective, Which is very different than what I was use to in my Asus G1s. I actually miss the w90 my daughter is using now! It's wicked nice looking. Too bad it uses the 4870's or I would have bought another one. I personally like the 9850 looks very much, and will tolerate the fingerprints on the shiny surfaces without issue.

    The size is way bigger than a 15.4...an 18.4 inch dwarfs it. But, I could see carrying an 18.4 in the appropriate backpack where the weight was distributed well. Not for hours on a campus though, but maybe to the library etc.. I'm kinda petite at 112 lbs and could do it. :p
     
  14. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine is being built and will ship late Tuesday or first thing Wednesday.
     
  15. Donald@Paladin44

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    ^--^
    Who is your vendor?
     
  16. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ^^^Exactly :)

    Donald,have you had a release date on your side of the water?

    good luck Dazman,i wish you luck (and i think you may need quite a bit of it).
     
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    No firm release date yet...but if any vendor is claiming they are building them now...well, don't count on it.

    Some less than scrupulous dealers (er, remember PCMW from last year??) will claim early ship dates just to get the order, but then it goes week after week with one excuse or another as to why they haven't shipped yet.
     
  18. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    its Eurocom. its been posted in another thread.

    totally agree with you mate.
    i said the same thing when a certain company was bragging about having the first m860tu for sale before the release and even pming people on here to try and change peoples minds to order with them.
    i think they got their first delivery 3-4 weeks after everyone else.

    whats the odds. more chance of winning puttin a dollar in the megga millions in vegas :)
     
  19. Miss Malevolent

    Miss Malevolent Notebook Consultant

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    I knew there was a reason I liked Powernotebooks...they keeps it real!
     
  20. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    FYI

    Response from EUROCOM

    Question:

    I just have to ask how are you allowed to release the laptop early? People on notebookreview.com are saying this is impossible because dealers don't have them yet. I just have to ask as most places don't release items prior to the release date

    Answer:


    "You can write a nice story about your new notebook and post - but please do this under EUROCOM name and not Clevo or any other". "We are THE LEADERS - so you will have your M98NU before anybody else."

    Question:

    I hope the build quality is on par or better than ASUS.

    "This is few classes above Asus. We are hardware developers with full blown R&D capabilities so we have our own product management process
    XoticPc and others are dealers selling based on price without any engineering background and they follow whatever they are being told by their masters - this is one of key reasons that we do not get involved into forums - there is too much noise coming from people that know little and think that know a lot"

    Guys if they don't ship my laptop this week then there will be hell to pay. However, we'll have to see.
     
  21. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Eurocom - that explains everything. If you really want to know what it explains, you might try going back to threads posted the last time there was a major Clevo release, and they backtracked, and the one before that, when they backtracked, and .... Seeing a pattern, yet?
     
  22. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    Well we'll see. I e-mailed Clevo to ask if companies can release the laptop early.

    Wait to see what I hear and I'll look for the posts. Thanks
     
  23. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    Companies/Resellers can release these as soon as they get the final production model in stock. It's as simple as that. ;)
     
  24. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay, I called Sager and have an e-mail into Clevo.

    Sager said the laptop is delayed until the end of the month. They said they have not received any laptops, however, EUROCOM might have a way to get the laptops from Clevo by other means.

    I'm e-mailing them again.
     
  25. JasonNH

    JasonNH Notebook Evangelist

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    Is the NP9850 supposed to be able to switch to integrated graphics to save battery life when not needing the GPUs?
     
  26. ReDuNZL

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    There is a Nvidia 9400 chip in it, so yes, it should - now, whether this is automatic, and under what circumstances is unknown. Maybe it is something one has to do manually, maybe in conjunction with a Silent Mode, or something else. The upcoming full reviews of production units will tell.
     
  27. Donald@Paladin44

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    ^--^
    No, Hybrid technology is not in the Sager NP9850

    As for shipping...Clevo has not shipped any final production M980NU units anywhere in the world. Any units that are out there are pre-production units for testing purposes only.

    Many of these are the 4 fan D900F pre-production units and if anyone is selling them they are violating their agreement with Clevo because they are only pre-release and for testing only purposes by the OEM's. The final production models will not have 4 fans, they will only have 3 fans...so if you are getting a pre-production model, and you are not being told that this is not the final release model...well, then you know you are dealing with a bad situation. If you have been told you are getting a pre-release, testing only model, then you do so at your own risk.

    When you get it, and it has 4 fans, that is ONE way to tell what you have.
     
  28. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    Here you go boys!

    "Keep in mind that we are ALWAYS FIRST - we shipped D900F Panther i7 almost 2 months prior to "normal release. Remember we are DEVELOPERS and not just "another" dealer or distributor - so yes, dealers get product after developers and distributors - much much later. We had samples of this model for over 2 months"

    "Tell "non believers" to order from us - if we don't deliver them FULL PRODUCTION SYSTEM we will offer them REWARD of $5,000 US CASH . No price matching on this Reward program."

    Ask them to confirm this offer with [email protected]

    So we will see what happens.
     
  29. ReDuNZL

    ReDuNZL Notebook Evangelist

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    What has the D900F to do with the M980/NP9850?
     
  30. ReDuNZL

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    No Dazman, that was a reply to Paladin - he was on about the shipping of the M980 and then went on a bout the 3 or 4 fans on the D900F ... I didn't get any meaning of that.

    I know there has been no mention of hybrid gpu solution for the D900F, but it has been mentioned in several articles concerning the M980...
     
  31. ReDuNZL

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    Concerning the Eurocom debate: Developers? What in the M980 have they developed? The barebone is developed by Clevo, if I'm not mistaken ... the rest are developed by Intel or Nvidia ... I have never seen ram or hdd with the name Eurocom on it either, so what have they developed?
    I just think that statement you got in that mail from them is a bit strange.

    Whether they will deliver when they say they will, we will just have to wait and see, yes? I have no strong opinions on that :)
     
  32. Dazman

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    I'm skeptical after the posts from people on this forum, but we'll see. I've e-mailed Clevo and if they, EUROCOM, deliver then I will e-mail Clevo again and ask how come they have the laptops while Sager doesn't. Hell, Canada is the last to get everything!
     
  33. Soviet Sunrise

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    Clevo's email has a filter that only allows their corporate contacts such as Sager to go through. I'm afraid you're not going to get a response back from them.
     
  34. Dazman

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    Great, I'll play the waiting game then.
     
  35. Dazman

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    So if it has three is that one on each card and then one for the CPU?

    If you are talking about this one http://www.anandtech.com/GalleryImage.aspx?id=6103 then I don't know how they could pass it off as a M980NU.
     
  36. ReDuNZL

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    It has to be.
    But take note that paladin44 is talking about the D900F here, and that is hardly the same machine as the M980/ Sager 9850, is it...
     
  37. Donald@Paladin44

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    Sorry if that wasn't clear. I was using the 4 fan D900F as an example of the pre-production models...unfortunately I left out the word "like"...It should have been "Many of these are "like" the 4 fan D900F pre-production units..."

    As has already been pointed out there is no such thing as a "developer". Clevo is the ODM, and Sager and Eurocom are OEMs, but neither can ship the final production model until Clevo ships them, and at this point they have not done so.

    There are those that sell pre-production samples to end users without telling them what they really are. When you buy a pre-production sample instead of the final release production model you never know what features you might be missing. Also, there are only a few pre-production samples given to each OEM (usually only 1 or 2), so you can figure it out from there.
     
  38. Dazman

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    Agreed, but he references the NP9850 and discusses the D900F so I'm not sure who he was talking to now.
     
  39. Shyster1

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    Look, Eurocom may have what they claim to have this time around, but then again, according to the rules of quantum mechanics, there is a small but still non-zero chance that every particle in my body may spontaneously decide to relocate to the vicinity of Mars; however, I'm not investing in a space suit or packing my bags.
     
  40. ReDuNZL

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    So just to make it clear - you were talking about the M980 when you said no hybrid? Or were you referring to the D900F there too?
     
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    Hybrid is only supported by an nVIDIA chipset based motherboard.

    Sager NP9850 uses the nVIDIA chipset, the Sager NP9280 uses the Intel chipset.
     
  42. ReDuNZL

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    So then the M980 could have hybrid. You said no.
     
  43. Dazman

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    Now if I were you and I were a reseller I would be asking Clevo how EUROCOM can be shipping the M980NU wUhen nobody else has them yet. Someone has stated that Clevo filters its e-mails so that customers can't contact them.

    What do you think?
     
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    It could have, theoretically, but it isn't a feature on the NP9850.
     
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    We don't need to ask Clevo about why EUROCOM is claiming they have final release production models when they don't...only EUROCOM would know the answer to that, as well as anyone who has been around this business for the last several years.

    Pay attention to Shyster1's posts, or do a little historical research on your own.

    At this point, no one in the world has final production Clevo M980NU units because Clevo hasn't shipped any yet...period.
     
  46. Dazman

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    I will try to contact Clevo via another reseller.
     
  47. Dazman

    Dazman Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm researhing posts and I can't find anything really wrong with EUROCOM.
     
  48. hottestzephyr

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    It's pretty bad news :( I think NP9850 will have this fearture. I wait to buy NP9850 because I think it has the same fearture as M17X but no. In my opinion, M17X is the king now. (all powerful and mobility)
     
  49. MrDJ

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    ... seems someone is gearing up for some I-told-you-so gloating?
     
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