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    Clevo P1x0HM users with 7970M/680M - Ordered? Installed? OCed? Lets have it! :)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by jaybee83, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. hackness

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    How do AW deal with back memory cooling? X-clamp with extended plate?
     
  2. jaybee83

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    my bet is they just dont ^^
     
  3. svl7

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    As moral hazard said, you'd need to solder some wires to the card. It's pretty easy and if you do it properly you can't tell afterwards.
    I did this when I overvolted my 6970m, works fine.
     
  4. Killerinstinct

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    Could we just email the engineers at clevo thru the support line and ask them what the vRam is? Also ask what kind of factor of safety they put on the components :D
     
  5. jaybee83

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    alright gang, time for some final results on my part!

    found my max stable clocks at 1015/1580 core/mem, and with those ive gotten the following scores:

    3DMark06 = 24264
    3DMark Vantage = 24153
    3DMark11 = 6918
    Unigine Heaven = 1675
    Unigine Sanctuary = 4844
    Unigine Tropics = 2959
    PCMark Vantage = 16848
    PCMark7 = 4668

    settings for unigine benchmarks were as follows: 1920x1080 / all effects on / tess normal / 4x AF / no AA / trilinear filtering

    across all benchmarks, ive got a 56% boost in scores compared to my 485M when OCed to the max @665/1330/1690 core/shader/mem
    only taking the gaming benchmarks into account the difference is even larger at around 68%!

    very happy with this card! and now that i got my stable OC clocks, let the gaming commence! yehaw! :p

    cheers
     
  6. hackness

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    Nice scores Jaybee ;) By the way do you think the backplate in this m18x cooling kite can be used for back memory cooling?
     
  7. jaybee83

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    hmmm, looks very promising indeed! the only thing you would have to check tho is if the screw holes align with ur card. aside from that, the backplate wouldnt even have to cover the memory banks perfectly, just enough to be able to apply pressure on them with the heat pads in between. at least that would be my view of things...
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Vram will be the rated amount for the chips.
     
  9. hackness

    hackness Notebook Virtuoso

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    So it might be running at 1.35V?

    I was talking with the seller that sold me the Clevo GTX680M the other day before I RMA it, I asked why is there no x-clamp (x-bracket) on the GTX680M he sent me, he told me when it was originally ship out from Clevo, the card doesn't come with one, the X-clamp comes with cooling kits. And then I asked him is it possible for him to install an x-clamp on it, he told me he doesn't have any clevo x-clamps with him at the moment but he can install a Dell alienware x-clamp on it, except the screw holes are a little larger so I'll have to find larger screws if I use dell alienware's x-bracket.

    So I think the Alienware x-bracket + vram backplate might work.
     
  10. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Awesome jb! :)
     
  11. Blacky

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    Have you tried OCCTP for stability tests ?
     
  12. jaybee83

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    nope, i used kombustor for ballpark and the above mentioned benchmarks for fine-tuning :) i call it stable once the card passes 20 min. of kombustor and a complete run of all 8 benchmarks without BSODS, freezes, driver crashes, artifacts and tearing.
     
  13. nassq8

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    I'd like to share some info and to thank you guys, especially jaybee83, for all these informative posts, which helped me a lot about this card. I received my 7970M from Sager, which is so reliable in term of delivery and product. I replaced my 580M with this monster in minutes without a glitch and all are up and running smoothly. Of course the machine BIOS recognized the card as "Empty".

    I had a blue screen when fired it up at first, then resolved the issue with a clean re-install of win 7. I did a brief benchmarking using 3d mark vantage, with a score of P21829.

    According the Kombustor, my idle temp is 40 and averaging 91C under the load for more than 20 minute. These temps are high for non-overclocked card, and I'm not sure what causes this :confused:. The Kom. shows a core speed of 850 MHz, Mem with 1200Mhz, and Vddc with 1.000 V. Overall, the card is worth every penny I spent on it. Its permanence is incredible for a portable machine.:D


    Eurocom Racer (Clevo P150HM) / Core i7 2860QM / Radeon HD 7970M
     
  14. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    i think you should do the foil tape mod, and congrats on your new card!
     
  15. Wallzii

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    So I'm not the only one! Strangeness!

    Looks like maybe a repaste is in order, and if that doesn't fix things, follow aduy's advice and do the foil tape mod. My heatsink fins don't line up with the fan exhaust as well as my 6970M did (off by about 3-4mm or so), but this card is running extremely cool for me. Regardless, if your peaking at 90C, that is well within operational limits for the card and there really isn't anything to worry about, unless your planning to OC which could well push those temps a bit higher.
     
  16. jessi3k3

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    I've gone through the last 10 pages of this thread so I apologize if this was answered before. I'm now interested in ordering a 7970m for myself and I was wondering if anyone has been having problems getting full GPU % utilization in games such as BF3 such as those with the newer EM series? Are these issues directly related to Enduro and since it's disabled on our HM's do these issues not occur?
     
  17. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Thanks for this thread guys. Thanks to it (and Your input) I was able to upgrade my MSI GX740 to a Clevo 7970M. :)
     
  18. jaybee83

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    i dont play bf3, but so far ive always gotten at least a 98% utilization with very smooth gameplay. what about the other guys here?
    btw, always happy to hear that we could help out fellow HM users and even MSI gamers! ;)

    @nassq8: i agree with what wallzii said about repasting. did u just install the card right away with the heatsink pre-attached? in my case they used waaaay too much paste on the core and i swapped it right away with a smallsize drop of ICD7. temps at stock were in the high 70s in kombustor and high 60s in games/benchmarks whereas now im reaching low to mid 80s after 20min of kombustor and low 70s in games/benches with clocks at 1015/1580.

    cheers
    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  19. kolias

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    wow!!man nice scores!!!
    you take of all the juice of your card.... ;)
    and nice temps you have there when oc.
    i hope im not going to have problems with mine when she come in my hands.... :rolleyes:
    @jaybee did i told you that they gave you special version of 7970m? :cool: ;)
     
  20. jaybee83

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    yeah right! special as in "u have to flash the modded vBIOS urself but in return u get great stable OC-clocks"? :p hahaha if thats the case im content with it ;) keep us updated on when u get ur card filarako!
     
  21. nassq8

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    Thanks guy for the tips regarding the heat issue. Yes jaybee83, I got the card with the heatsink pre-attached. I just installed it right away. Repasting and foil tape tricks are indeed viable options. Anyway if the card is operating "within operational limits" as stated by Wallzii, I think I can live with that, giving the fact that this card provides such a great performance. Highly recommended for HM users :D

    Eurocom Racer (Clevo P150HM) / Core i7 2860QM / Radeon HD 7970M - with 99% GPU Load.
     
  22. kolias

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    LOL! gotta loooove the "greek way" of handling things such as paying taxes.... hahaha ;)

    enjoy ur card re megale!
     
  24. kolias

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    @jaybee this the third time that im not pay vat taxes!!!LOL
    Anyway im idle at 38c and max load 78(playing for 30 min bf3multiplayer caspian border 64players)-here in greece is very hot at summer,its 38c.
    Now i must do oc....
     
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    looking forward to ur stable oc clocks :)

    btw i noticed that my idle wattage is about 7W lower than with my 485m before, nice :)

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  27. nassq8

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    a note here. the HDMI output is not functioning. no signal is pumping through to my external display. unfortunately this is a kind of limitation of 7970M in P150HM. however, the DVI output is ok and working with no problem. waiting for some wiz to resolve that issue. :p


    Eurocom Racer (Clevo P150HM) / Core i7 2860QM / Radeon HD 7970M - with 99% GPU Load.
     
  28. aduy

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    oh dood thats sick, that means moar battery life!
     
  29. hackness

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    Clevo has just put the 302.77 driver up just for the GTX680M on their site few days ago: Direct link

    [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.0]
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.0371.1558% = Section015, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_03711558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.5105.1558% = Section042, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_51051558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.7102.1558% = Section042, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_71021558

    [NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1]
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.0371.1558% = Section051, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_03711558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.5105.1558% = Section049, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_51051558
    %NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.7102.1558% = Section049, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_71021558

    NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.0371.1558 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M "
    NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.5105.1558 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M "
    NVIDIA_DEV.11A0.7102.1558 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M "

    Only GTX680M hardware IDs are found in the inf, but sadly PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_11A0&SUBSYS_00001558 isn't included.
    You can give it a try if you are having any slight problems with 304.79.
     
  30. LaptopNut

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    It is unlikely that 0000.1558 will ever be included since it is not an official Hardware ID that exists.

    RJTech believe the 0000 is only assigned due to the Bios not recognizing it and I think that is the case. The only way it will ever be included is if Sager release a Bios update or resellers contact Nvidia about it. On both accounts I don't see that happening since it is EOL. I am fine on 304.79 and will just mod any others that I want to use.
     
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    Disregard. Wrong thread.
     
  32. Wallzii

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    Is Arkham City an extremely terrible port to PC, or should it be running better on my machine? Different settings and resolutions seem to have barely any effect on how smooth it is. The in-game benchmark tool gives me 41FPS average on max details @ 1080p resolution, while the same settings at 1024x600 resolution gives me 46FPS average. That just doesn't sound right. Now, I'd be happy if 41FPS was the actual average in the game, which isn't the case, as when you are roaming the city on roof tops and courtyards, FPS can dip into the low-to-mid 20s quite often.

    Physx is disabled obviously as I have an AMD card. GPU utilization hovers around 40-50% at both resolutions, as CPU load reached a peak of 41% @ 3.09GHz. I haven't encountered any issues with any other games I've played, even Crysis 2 and Metro 2033 run better than this! Latest display drivers are installed and Arkham City is up-to-date from Steam. What gives?
     
  33. jaybee83

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    hmmm....ill test arkham city once i get around to it. sounds strange!

    i knooooow, right?!?! its like 23% less power draw on idle :) havent checked the wattage under load tho yet....only thing for sure is that with prime95 and kombustor at OC clocks my machine draws 220W+ for several seconds and then the PSU gives out *lol* :p
     
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    DX 11 implementation in Akham city is so bad, therefore is unreliable to judge the card. I have same results you got yourself. Btw how do you monitor the gpu utilization during the game play?
     
  35. jaybee83

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    i guess hes either using MSI afterburner or GPU-Z :)
     
  36. nassq8

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    thanks jaybee83, GPU-Z does the job :)
     
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    Are you running in in DX11 or DX9 mode?
     
  38. Tonrac

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    I have Ordered my GTX680M at Premashop ;) ... The card is somewhere between Germany and France
     
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    Wrong thread. oops.
     
  40. kolias

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    Nice choice you made tonrac :)
    Enjoy.
     
  41. jaybee83

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    definitely the most trustworthy and at the same time cheapest "reseller"@premashop! :D good choice indeed haha

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  42. Religion

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    so just to be clear before I allocate funds, the GTX680m works with no problems in a P150hm?
     
  43. kolias

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    Yep it does,but you have to modify the drivers first-its plug & play :)
     
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    As long as it isn't bios/hardware issues I can deal. Driver(INF) issues are things I can fix with notepad++ that is no big deal.
     
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    Both DX9 and DX11 perform pretty bad. When on top of a building, regardless of what version of DirectX I have it set to, frames dip to the low 20s. After fiddling with all of the settings quite a bit, resolution and detail settings really don't seem to effect things overall that much.

    I believe after running the benchmark tool with DX9, on Extreme detail, with all post processing and effects turned off, the average was 51FPS up from 41FPS. However, when playing the game when you are looking over the city and dropping down into it, frames still dip to the 20s. Again, the benchmark is pretty bad at determining what the actual game runs at, as a lot of time appears to be spent flying from roof-top to roof-top when you are travelling, which is about a 5 second part in the benchmark, and quite a bit more of your time is spent up there in the real game.

    At this rate it just looks like I'll have to deal with it. I doubt any future patches will be released for Arkham City considering the age of the game.
     
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    DX11 stutters for me but DX9 is perfect maxed out at a steady 60 fps with occasional drops to 40-50 but not for very long.

    Edit: After disabling bSmoothFrameRate=FALSE, fps is now from 80-100+ fps.

    I heard some people report getting better fps when they uninstalled the "dual core optimizer".I found the pervious patch to have a lot better performance too.

    It may be worth trying some of the fixes listed here, particularly the 'bSmoothFrameRate=FALSE'
     
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    whats this premashop you talk of?
     
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    Premashop...LOL, just got a few cards for the guys in Europe from US.
    PM me if you live in Europe and want one. ;)
     
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    Thanks for the tips, but alas nothing is working for me. Frames rates looking down into the city from on top of a building are still pretty low, this game just doesn't run well on an AMD card it seems, and I guess it isn't very surprising as it is optimized for vNVIDIA cards and is already a poor port to PC on top of that. Oh well.
     
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    Can someone with a 7970m comment on battery life at idle/desktop/web surfing type stuff.

    (Obviously better than last gen but I'm trying to decide if the added cost would be worth it over a second battery which would give me about 5hrs runtime - unfortunately I have to do things other than game on my lappy...)

    It doesn't have the same problem as the 69x0m where iirc light use would cause full memory clocks to drain battery real quick?
     
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