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Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
I m pretty sure the bios and vbios for the new machines does not exist yet?
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
BIOS now available for the P870DM3 only, the other machines will follow soon, so will the VBIOSHackintoshihope likes this. -
Since you purchased a Sager, the Prema BIOS and vBIOS will not be available to you through normal channels. As a condition of receiving PremaMod firmware, sharing it with others is strictly prohibited. I believe the PremaMod partner shops are applying the firmware to reduce the opportunities for customers to violate the provisions of their agreement by sharing. If they don't have possession of the files, they won't be tempted to do that. So, there won't be a legitimate pathway out of firmware hell for Clevo/Sager owners that purchased a system from a non-Prema shop. Hopefully, nobody in this community would stoop so low as to beg people that went through proper channels to breach their agreement. The only honorable and acceptable way would be for them to go directly to @Prema with their request for an exception.
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Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
My post was just indicating that the machine is now old (new generation is now out) and the bios that was promised to customers isn't available. Also quite frankly there are always ways to get the bios and vbios like buying another machine. It's just humorous that it was never released as a production machine and so many people paid extra for it.
Also there are no laws about acquiring the bios or vbios Mr. Fox.
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No, you're right. No laws against it. We don't want or need more laws anyway. We already have too many.
It is all about honor and respect, and following through with your agreements. Sharing it without the author's permission violates those things.TomJGX, Tentenkun, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
Purchases aftermarket there are no agreements? There is no contract? Come on now.
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Read the "Read Me" file, and if you ever acquire it properly, you will receive additional instructions from the author that it is not to be shared. But, if the PremaMod partner shops are flashing it and not giving the files to their customers then there isn't much need for gentlemen's agreements. They (customers) don't have any files available to share or make available to people that should not have them.Papusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
Please refer to the updated post. This might solve what you are saying. No read me is provided aftermarket? -
There is no "aftermarket" for Prema firmware. You either get it directly from Prema or from a PremaMod Partner Shop. Any other distribution channel is inappropriate and violates the conditions under which the firmware is provided. Unfortunately, those mitigation steps are necessary due to dishonest people that like to steal the work of others, reverse engineer it, replace the author's name and sell it as their own handiwork.Tentenkun, Papusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
Mr. Fox if I buy a Cleveo machine with the bios and vbios on it. It is mine. I can have the bios and anything contained in the laptop. Is mine? I purchased it.
You and I both know you sold your machine with the bios on it? Lmao. It's software. Are you really serious that you can't get it! You gave yours away! Lol -
Mr. Fox has even asked my permission before he sold it, as it was a very personal and customized version. Did he have to do that by law? Was he forced by a written agreement to do so?
NO, he did it because he is a good person, a friend and his moral compass is intact.
Without values everything looses its value...
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Thanks for mentioning that. I forgot to address that inaccurate comment. It is and was available to the people entitled to it, and has been for a long time.D2 Ultima likes this.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
yea good for you. and your point now is?
If you don't purchase your machine through a Prema Partner, you won't get the Prema BIOS. PERIOD.CaerCadarn likes this. -
Hackintoshihope AlienMeetsApple
Waiting on it to show since partners have been charging premiums for a long time "promising it would be available". Seeing when and if I should buy someone's machine. Since the new models are out.
Uh if I buy a machine with the bios and vbios on it I do have it. Confused you are.
Files are stored on the bios! XD they are always on the computer. Also if and when you flash it they are stored in your HDD or SSD unless you do a secure remote wipe and burn the OS. XD Writing and rewriting the HDD or SSD until the images and everything else on it is corrupted. -
@Hackintoshihope... We already covered this a while back and you were made aware at that time of the situation of the Prema BIOS only being available from Prema partners, and will not have a public release. Yet here we are again.
If you were "promised" a BIOS update for your Sager, you should take it up with the person or entity who made you that promise. For the general public, the only promise made is what would only be available from the Prema Partnership's reseller of your laptop's make. However, all is not lost in regards to overclocking... Without it, there is always the fallback of ThrottleStop or XTU.
Now, if you purchase from second hand, then yes, like you mentioned, perhaps buy it from someone who purchased from a Prema Partner, and make sure you specify the laptop come with the latest Premamod BIOS they were entitled to. The current owner should be able to do at least that for a potential buyer.
In regards to a system BIOS installations, there are no files left behind on any system as the installation is via remote access. I do not know if there is a EULA, but if so, those do apply. Just as when Windows comes installers on a HDD is non-transferrable, I take it the same applies to a Prema System BIOS. If an end user is gaining access to the BIOS files, they may be doing so using unscrupulous methods violating the spirit of the Prema Partnership agreement.Last edited: Jan 23, 2017Spartan@HIDevolution, TBoneSan, Prema and 2 others like this. -
For the history books, most partner shops don't charge anything extra for the mods.
Those who do, mainly do so in order to cover their own in-house warranty in case of hardware problems and shipping costs and for future firmware which may require hardware access...
I might want to add that I have made personal versions on various occasions for many honest members of the community, which for various reasons where unable to purchase their hardware from a partner-shop, as well as a 'thank you' to all the supporters who made it possible for me to join the P870DM3 ranks myself.Last edited: Jan 23, 2017ssj92, D2 Ultima, boricuafly and 13 others like this. -
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nVIDIA GeForce Driver updated to v378.49John@OBSIDIAN-PC likes this. -
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Download Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Installer (All-In-One) Installer added to the OP
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Will be adding it in next app update which will be a HUGE update
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
The P870KM1 Drivers are up now
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Already ahead of that.
Tomorrow update brings all new models.
New options.
System tray minimize.
Windows tray norifications.
Set check update timer.
Start with windows.
Almost 30 percent less code.
Ui improvements.
Faster APP.
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@John@OBSIDIAN-PC @bloodhawk @Papusan @Prema @infex @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER
New driver updates in the OP
The new touchpad driver with the new CCC fix the touchpad not responding for about a minute after a reboot
Drivers were stolen from the P870KM1 and tested
Synaptics TouchPad driver v19.3.4.58
Realtek HD Audio Driver v6.0.1.8018
Control Center v5.0001.1.07
Intel Thunderbolt Driver v19.30.1648.920steberg, infex, bloodhawk and 1 other person like this. -
Well Im saying thank you again to @Phoenix for keeping the drivers updated and available for download.
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It is a good rule of thumb. Not all software / drivers that remove relics from the previous installation.
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Intel Thunderbolt is linking to a Intel Bluetooth driver.
I´m really about to finish the new version of the app
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
fixed......pls check
this is the last set of drivers I am doing for Clevo....... let them fix their own drivers site
It was fun to work with you
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saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
Not CCC definitely. Touchpad you can test though if it doesn't act strange then all goodPapusan and saturnotaku like this. -
John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Hummm i still get a bluetooth driver after unpacking.
By the way new app version is out!
Almost all code was re-written and improved.
Faster functions!
FINALLY -> It can look at windows registry to check SBX XFI installed version.
FINALLY ->It can now check the Thunderbolt driver installed by looking at the driver .inf file.
Most of the UI might look the same, but it uses new code and includes new options:
-Start with windows
-Start Minimized
-Now uses system tray icon instead of taskbar
-You can now activate notifications for updates(uses windows notification system) - feature will be improved
-You can now set a timer to check for updates every X time
The all "Version Check" system was improved both on the client side and server side, which among other things reduces the chance of error and allows me to add a new model under 5 minutes
Brother Phoenix, you are now using a MSI right? I was thinking about adding a "NOT LISTED" model which might include all latest versions, and this way it can be used on most laptops. Whatcha think?
A lot of the changes that are done under this version is to open way for new features (actually they are already there but hidden), so future updates will come faster and with new great features.
I still need to add some useful stuff like MS Runtimes / DirectX, etc.
To everyone using the app in my signature please post bugs!
I already found one: Window sometimes jumps place when you click a dropbox, will fix on next update, now i need to do site stuff
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saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate
I'd ask @Charles P. Jefferies if an exception can be made because this is a piece of software that you created, which can benefit any Sager/Clevo owner. The worst he can say is no.
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@ John@OBSIDIAN-PC if you let someone else post (or quote) what you posted as a new thread, that's fine.
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Thanks, I'll volunteer to do it and will send him a PMsaturnotaku and CaerCadarn like this. -
John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Wow thanks for the support.
Just finished the new updater system, lets messy.
And there will be big news for the app thanks to uncleweb
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I just checked Clevo's site and the new CCC is up. Control center AP (5.0001.1.01) for Windows 10 64-bit. Has anyone tested it yet? Should I modify the config file to =0 on the XTU fan table?
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Read the OP again. The version I have is newerboricuafly and Papusan like this. -
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item #9) Intel Thunderbolt Driver v19.30.1648.920 seems to be a wireless driver and Bluetooth
the last thunderbolt was Driver v16.2.52.250..
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John@OBSIDIAN-PC Company Representative
Use the app in my signature.
New thunderbolt driver is available.infex, izombot and Spartan@HIDevolution like this. -
Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
New updates:
Intel Wireless Driver WLAN v19.40.0.3 / BT Driver v19.40.1702infex likes this. -
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Not yet, above are the worst possible ext. speakers (sounds OK now) until I get my speakers back...I still need to correct the internal speakers.
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I too am looking for links if at all possible. Also what are your settings for Soundblaster and or overall settings for internal speakers? I cam from MSI and their system was less intensive. I prefer this system better, but having a tough time getting the right balance. Would appreciate anything to try out. My only issue is that some sounds drown others out or sound lowers itself and then raises. annoys me.
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Uninstall both SB & Realtek audio drivers -> reboot
Download Realtek_hdxmb3h.inf_8010
1- Install certificate: Right click RltkAPO64.dll (Modded_RltkAPO_8010) -> Details -> view certificate -> install certificate -> Select "Trusted Root Certification Authorities".
Finally, verify signature RltkAPO64.dll (right clcik).
2- Install Audio drivers using "Have Disk" method -> Browse Realtek_8010\Realtek_hdxmb3h.inf_8010\hdxmb3h.inf
3- Kill Audio service.
cmd (Admin)
Now copy modded RltkAPO64.dll to C:\Windows\System32.Code:net stop audiosrv
-> reboot
4- Disable Power management. Sound issues like crackling sound etc.
5- Install Bitsum's Park Control Free https://bitsum.com/files/parkcontrolsetup64.exe
Set "Bitsum Highest Performance" run it as a task...preferably after ThrottleStop (Timer Resolution 1 ms)
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Thanks for this . super informative. Does JRiver MC seperate the internal sub woofer from high and mids from go to that channel in our internals?Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
Clevo P870DM2/3 Drivers Mirror
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