Core i7 and GTX 280M or QX9300 and GTX 280M?

i definately agree with you... i was just trying to point out how long this one can last... i could buy a new laptop in 2 years.... hopefully 9828 will have sli in 2 years...

 

So.................

Which one did you decide on? 9262 or 9850?

 

Changed my M980 order for a D900F, exactly for the reasons electrosoft has pointed out.

 

you can still update the graphics cards in the M980 as well...

 

I think I'm probably going to go with the 9262 but people still tell me I should go for M980NU just because it has the newer technology... I think I could go with the 9262 and buy the 9282 assuming that will come in 2 years or so.... Hoping for an SLI motherboard revision in the 9282 with support for 8-core 16-thread i7's...

 

your labels are always so mixed up i have no idea what you are talking about

 

im talking about futuristic... 9282, in naming theory, should come out in 2 years...

 

kobalt really does a good job displaying the M980NU...
http://www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk/notebooks.php
just look how nice it looks on their website...

 

Yes, but in addition, with the D900F - greater chance of upgradeability of cpu, and thus more longevity of the rig in total. And I am not worried about the lack of SLI. I like fluid gaming as much as anyone, but it's not my only priority. And I think one GTX280M will take care of my needs more than adequately.
The Core i7 and 3 7200 rpm disks in RAID 0 will mean my current desktop is history.

Oh, and btw - does the D901C have HDMI and eSata?

 

i think it has esata and vga no hdmi but the 9280 doesnt have vga...

 

D901C has no esata.

 

o ok...
10char

 

What do HDMI/esata do? I'm assuming it's something not relevant to gaming.

 

hdmi is for a hi defition tv.

esata is like your hdd but the port is outside(e=external) so it's a fast port for an external hdd that uses it instead of using a usb port

usb 2.0= 480 Mb/s
e-sata = 3.0Gb/s

not for gaming just for file transfer and big tv's.

 

Ah, I could care less then. Long live the 9262.

 

i agree(i own one as well.) i just wish i had media buttons(i'm use to them since i had to laptop that had them)

 

The tech specs on Xotic PC say that the NP9280 has HDMI and eSata I/O

 

so i guess they added that on the chassis/mobo. i would have to look where though.

 

Question:
Will either or both of these laptops, (NP9280 & NP9850) be able to play EA Game's BF 1943 and Bad Company 2 when they come out?

 

Looking at the gallery pics on xoticpc.com, left side near the back.

 

they should. i don't see why know it plays every other game. (at least that i play.)

 

Thanks, still deciding which one to get. Trying to chose between those two, NP9850 and the NP9280.

 

Of course... the NP9850, NP9280 and NP9262 can play them... Don't know the required specs but all of these laptops can play any game on the market.

 

why not the m17x. just wondering.

i would prefer the np9850. out of the np9280 vs the np9850

 

Add up the prices vrs the specs, fairly close. Its the tax on the AW.

Also prefer to patronize/support the small indepenant shops.

 

what about your preference on np9262 vs np9850?

 

hehehehe that's a long story if i was to explain

 

give it to me short...

 

i can't. it's going to be long.
cpu
but right now as it is. the np9262 wins in cpu power because of the fact we don't know how the qx9300 overclocks and for price/performance ratio
q9650(320)=3.0ghz 1333fsb 12mb cache
qx9300 (retail 1,200) (es keeps going up and downright now 550 i believe)

i had a [email protected] and honest it was ripping fast and don't want anything slower then that. considering the stock qx9300 is at 2.53ghz. sager may not give you 3.0ghz overclock. and maybe they will. but overclock to reach 3.0ghz or 3.0ghz stock.

gpu.
the np9850 wins, no matter what no one says. the 280m is fast then the 9800m gtx.
i have seen the 280m pump close to 700 on the core/ and broke 1000 on the memory. and then you have the 16SP to up the performance. on top of that, it has a smaller core so it will run alittle cooler. so it will be about 10 percent faster if there on the same clocks but if as i said before, the 280m can be pushed farther so it gets about 10 more percent but maxed.

but looking at the screen and the size of the both the sager np9262 wins. i will post more but i'm getting lazy lol.

 

NP9850 has MXM 3.0 though, I wouldn't recommend a used NP9262 if you want to stay on edge of technology when GT300 is out. But presently, the NP9262 is a fantastic performer versus the NP9850 since the 9800M GTX is only slightly behind the 280M, and the QX9300 is only faster than the Q9650 with some good overclocking. It's taken a year just to find a few laptops that can hang with the ol' D901C (W90, M17x, NP9850).

 

how high would you have to overclock the QX9300 to get faster than the Q9650?

 

well we need someone with a q9650 to put up some stuff stock. i have test with my [email protected] and 3.2ghz to compare them with.

 

What would you like to compare? I could throw up some Vantage CPU numbers

 

that will be great if you don't mind. i have vantage, 3dmark06 and wprime.

if you can post everything on one post i will do the same so we can compare.

thank you very much.

 

these are the highest scores i have for my qx9300. i never really saved much numbers of the cpu. the cpu is at 3.07 and 3.2ghz. sorry but again i never really focused on the cpu so i don't have alot of numbers for it.
wprime







3dmark06


these is at 3.2ghz
vantage

 

Just ran these a couple minutes ago, can't post s/s though.

3.0 Ghz q9650 at stock clocks (obviously)

Vantage CPU Score: 27600 (I've hit 30k with older drivers, but gpu scores went up with 185.85 dox)
CPU Test 1: 1637 plans/s
CPU Test 2: 92 steps/s

 

no that's with physx enabled. disable it in nvidia control panel and you'll see the difference. make the gpu do the work of the cpu. that's why your cpu score is threw the roof.

 

Oh...well I don't have time to run it again until after work...so I'll post my results sometime tomorrow.

 

ok no problem. thanks for your help.

 

I think it makes more sense to build a desktop with i7, unless your work requires you to have i7 processing power in a mobile computer. The main reason being that the i7 really is a overclocking beast and the D900F doesn't allow for this and thus it's really a waste because you can't realize its full potential. Go with the two 1 gb GPUs and the Qx9300 for the mobile computer and build an i7 desktop rig for your workstation computer.

 

Just got a chance to run it without physx.

CPU: 12084
Test1: 1628
Test2: 18

the two cpu's are pretty even after the qx9300 gets oc'd

 

I gessour right if they are at the same clocks. (guess i'm looking for a x3380 then )

 

bet you feel like crap now

 

not really. yes I did consider the 775 better then the mobile gpu. that's why I didnt hop on the m17x boat. but some times I look at it and want it but when I see the performance difference I a little happy with what I have(not to far off from the first best in number) but it's way past my budget and I wuld of have to look at the sager version bareboned which I realy didn't like. if I were to buy them I would go for the 280m gtx sli because if I wre to do 260m then I should just stay with what I have. but the 300 dollar increase from the 260m would set me back for 3 weeks. then I wod have to go for the qx9300 es which was going for 400 but now has raise it's price to 450 and it's claiming. compared to the [email protected] for 320 which is alittle slower then my old qx9300 @3.2ghz. and I dn't see the qx9300 on the m17x passing 3.06. maybe a bios flash will push them farther but I wouldn't want to wait the long. (i'm impatient. )

but nonetheless the m17x is still better with the features it has then my unit but I wuld go for the w90 since it's right behind the 280m but less. but again I couldn't go threw sending it itm.

basically there's to much notebooks out there right now with pros and cons to each lol. so i'm going to try to stay with my unit. my final descision will be when I sli it.

 

i think i might pass on the NP9262... i never realized how well the QX9300 was... Well I guess it's still NP9850 vs M17x... I'll wait for reviews and see which one i want. thanks for all the support

 

I agree. If I was sticking with the Core 2 architecture (which I alluded to earlier), I would go with a QX9300 in a APM17X or NP9850 (Both GTX280M)for an SLI solution or if I wanted a single GPU solution, I'd go with a NP5797 (GTX280M) or GT725 (4850M) and swap in a QX9300.

 

4850 FTW IMO its better then a 280...

 

I'm not an expert but is it possible that the GTX 280M and GTX 260M are the same card? Can you flash the GTX 260M to GTX 280M? Thanks, Bif

 

They are not the EXACT same card but they use the Same Core ... you can overclock the 260 to be roughly the equivalent to a 280

 

The GTX 260M is a stripped down version of the GTX 280M; 16 shaders disabled and lower factory clocks. But yes, as The_Moo™ stated, they are both G92b's.