Delidding 6700k

The horse is still dead kids.
No need to get worked up.

As i stated earlier in the thread, I've met 2 guys who have delidded their CPU on their Notebook, both had no success with it. I've only written what I believed would be the truth, luckily another User who has a far more experience with it has proven me wrong with more examples, which I am grateful for, I'm always glad when I learn something. However, if you see that I admit that I was wrong there is no use posting memes and writing "lol","lel" and whatnot. I think we both agree on that.

However, airflow is still non existant on almost all notebooks. Even though the heat issue can be fixed other ways like getting better heatsink, delidding etc.

If you think airflow does nothing, you're welcome to do a practical test yourself by removing the underplate of your notebook and see if the temperatures are the same. I'm not saying that the only solution to a cooler notebook is by improving/making an airflow, but that it is one of the many things you can do in order to get a cooler notebook.

 

I'm guessing that the liquid metal is making a difference with my idle temp in the 30's and all much more stable no more cores having big differences in temps. I checked the heatsink contact by using a 1mm piece of my wifes construction paper showed the heatsink does make contact. I'm still very interested in delidding I just don't feel comfortable enough doing it with a blade.

Turns out the pad placement isn't too bad. Not sure of the quality of the pads but that's for another time. For now I'm happier than I was before.

Like I mentioned earlier if anyone knows of someone who does delidding after market I'd be interested.

 

There are tools out there for delidding. Why don't you just grab one of those?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-De...230474?hash=item4b0e0c3dca:g:9QQAAOSwTM5YxLRy

 

The only tool I would feel comfortable using would be the rockit 88 delis but for some reason they are out of stock almost everywhere. I'll wait till one is available and then maybe do it myself.

As for airflow issues I do agree with you that the laptops could use more efficient cooling. However having the backplate of my p775dm3 off continuously isn't an option for me. I'm hoping with a delid and better pads the temps will be even better.

Anyone got any info on how to drop the voltage of the GPU? Had quite a few people say slightly adjusting it can drop temps and not sacrifice performance.

 

Why don't you buy it straight from Rockit cool? They have the black version in stock.

https://rockitcool.myshopify.com/products/rockit-88

 

Just ordered the Delid and Relid set. Bit costly for doing one chip but much cheaper than buying a new CPU. Hoping shipping is nice and quick. Shame I used all the CLU as I'll no doubt have to reapply. Guess I'll order some more? Is pro or ultra from CL better for inside the CPU? Planning to reattach with just a little glue on the corners in case there was a problem and had to reopen.

 

I got the Rockit 88 with relid (Not yet used it) but if like me your in the UK be aware you will most likely get hit a £15.00 import tax which makes the whole thing work out to be about £55.00.

There are other options in the EU which are cheaper and no import tax. The Dr Delid looks pretty good and has a relid for the price.

https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=3617

 

Mine took around 2 weeks to turn up. I also use Conductonaut as you get more in the syringe and it has a high thermal rating

 

I'm planning to use Permatex 82180 RTV silicon to reseal the lid when I get round to doing my machine. Thats what HIDevolution use.

 

Exacly the kind og logic that you should use

Better get decent tools than breaking something expensive. Once you're done with delid could you benchmark your system with before and after?

Would love to see the difference.

 

It was $50 dollars including shipping. I did email and ask about import tax but I've had no reply. Bit disappointing it'll end up so expensive but it's still far cheaper than replacing the CPU due to a mistake. I'll try and get some use from it and offer it for people to use.

That tool looks good and is a bit cheaper but after shipping (they say two weeks even to UK) it's still 43 euros. I'll stick with the rockit88 order for now. Real shame about the heavy import fee though that's ****

 

Yeah I've got my benchmarks from pasting with GC extreme and I'll bench using just the liquid metal that's on now and once I've delidded I'll bench again. I'm not looking for overclocks just a nice cooler system

 

Been there done that. And taking the bottom cover off makes a hell of a difference. Almost 7-10C.

 

Worth every penny...It's a great kit.

Indeed... With the gunk intel uses between the die->IHS, a relid is in most of our books, mandatory. Not an option.

::iunlock::

 

With the P775DM3-G the back cover is also the feet on the laptop. It would be sitting unevenly and not very secure.

 

How much risk of run off is there with CLU? I've pasted both chips with it and saw a noticeable drop in temps. Should I be leaving the electrical tape I used around the edges of the chips on? I took it off LM seemed to almost set after putting it on seemed a good contact.

 

I basically cut out 3 long slightly hard and thick (about an inch thick) foam sticks. And then stuck them on my U3, then placed the laptop on top making Ute the places the laptop frame was making contact. Those are usually the left/right edges and the top section where there are no find/exhaust.
This obviously won't work if you use the system as a portable machine.

 

I was wondering, is there actually a User here who has created their own airflow? I'd imagine that there should be some people out there who simply "stole" some electricity from the board and build maybe 1 or 2 small fans inside the case to create an aitflow. Since u got quite some posts I'd imagine that if there would be a user here who had done it, you'd probably know of it.

 

But you get easy access to internal hardware for cleaning Not the big problems with Clevo socket models, but some JokeBook's need total dismantling of the machine for easy access They could as well let it be open for colder soldered hardware. A big vin vin for BGA This means you can save a MB replacement

Already tested for P870 with almost no gain. You find it in the Clevo sub-threads.

 

The airflow is just fine in these systems. Specially the P775DMx / P870DMx. Problem (sometimes) is the contact surfaces.
Unless goofballs, lay the laptop down on a bed blocking everything off, and start playing most demanding games possible.

 

Correct as always @bloodhawk
See my edit in previous post.

 

Oh yeah, that was one of the reasons i kept it that way for a few months, cleaning was super easy and the temps were amazing.

@Danishblunt @Tony Palmer Here are some images of what i did - http://imgur.com/a/W2dvy
Also not that, the foam placement will depend on the system, and where there is space. Avoid contact with the heat sinks at all cost.
The fan mod has been done much better by @Papusan and @Mr. Fox , the images above are of the temp mod that i did a while back. I think @Q937 even rigged something up to power the fans using the USB ports.
Obviously this is not for people who value portability over anything else. But even with the bottom cover on, the U3 fan mod helps quite a bit. At least on the P870DMx.

 

Yeah I like the look of the U3 cooler is it no use unmodified? I tend to use this laptop at home only too expensive to be dragging around a lot. Before the end of the year I'll be travelling with it more though so it will need to be portable.

 

I doubt anyone can play on their bad, I'd imagine that's difficult.

I was wondering what temperatures u get on ur P870DM's?
I'd imagine you tweaked a lot so it should be optimal.

EDIT: Damn, you created a nice airlow. I'd imagine temperatures are nice. Are you using liquid metal as well?

 

my p775dm3-g is on a logitech lapdesk 95% of the time think anyone who puts their laptop on a bed is asking for overheating. I got this lapdesk for my p750zm which was 15'6 and had awful speakers. This desk had built in decent speaker. This new machine however has great sound so I'm more interested in cooling than anything else. Also it's 17inch so it'd be nice if it fit comfortably on the cooler

 

It definitely has its benefits without the extra fans, not any better than any other cooler. I would mod-ability is one of its advantages.

Here is an example - DM3, Delidded, Liquid Metal on the Die and Liquid metal on the IHS/heat sink, -

Spoiler

My Dm1 is basically sitting on the office desk as an internet machine, so that never goes over 40-50C :S

 

4.8ghz on a notebook and low 80s degree on a stresstest, mark me impressed.

How are the GPU's tempwise?

 

There are still those who do not believe this is possible(cpu temp below ambient with air cooling). Use U3 mod, max the fans with Fn+1, delidded i7 and Liquid ultra can move the processor temp below ambient And yeah, stock U3 is useless, in same way as all other notebook coolers out there.

 

My aim is not to need max fans as much as they seem needed now. I don't think I'd mod a u3 but laptop coolers do give a surface and can stop blocked air flow. They must give a degree or so cooling though surely?

 

If you are going to use the U3 cooler stock. You might as well buy Cool feet or use a couple of bottle caps. This two can also be a option New X-Riser or Hercules X-Stand for portability.

 

Those look great for the desk but I use it on my lap quite a lot

 

Then is not U3 the best suited for your use.

 

I'm looking forward to the delid then the temperatures hopefully dropping further. A comfortable lap desk with good air flow underneath and even a small fan would be fine. Hard to find anything to fit these beasts

 

Yes you'll want to leave the electrical tape around die(s) as it acts as a free insurance policy.

I'm actually mapping this out on my XPS, but yes there is plenty of room under the hood of the DTR's to fix a box fan...that's one nice thing about having a lot of volume.

I agree. It always cracks me up to see:

Gamer: "I need help, my temps are so high I don't know what's going on..."

Member: "Do you have enough air flow? Where are you playing games, at your desk?"

Gamer: "I'm gaming in bed and the laptop is just laying on my blanket."

Member: *face palm*

The U3 is a nice cooler. Although the stock fans are pretty weak, they are sufficient to move the air around... If you're needing anything more (airflow) the nice thing is that there are plenty of options. The fan World is your oyster.

 

If u decide to work on it and u're done one day with it, post it here, i'd be interested to know the differences.

 

Ah I didn't know that about the tape thought it was just used during application and then removed. Should I open back up and reapply? Everything is working fine atm. I'm awaiting my delid tool and more liquid metal in the next week or so think it will be OK till then?

 

I'm thinking about modding the lapdesk I'm currently using. Going to measure it up and see how much space there is. Think I could only fit one 120mm fan but that would be good airflow surely compared to the tiny 80mm 5v fan inside currently? Only thing is its got speakers built in through the USB along with the fans. Any recommendations on a cheap way to power a 120/140mm fan? Wish they'd used metal in this construction

 

Please keep this on topic as I had to do some deletions to douse out the flame wars on irrelevant fodder.

 

Great advice, and below is a picture I took last night of exactly why. Granted I used more metal than necessary for experimental purposes.
If metal is beading around then that's too much. One only needs to basically paint the surfaces. If more is required to bridge a gap then the contact pressure isn't enough and you should use a shim.

 

I'm currently in talks with my seller for a replacement heatsink as soon as we settle on whether or not I'm right I'll redo the LM I might wait until my delid tool comes though and just do everything at once. Delid with CLU then CLU on the IHS then new heatsink on top of all of them! hopefully this will be happening soon depending on shipping

 

The needle in liquid metal pro is actually really useful for getting stray drops.

 

Don't let that picture scare you. That usually only happens if too much is on - more of an example of what it shouldn't look like.If you color in so the finish looks like lead pencil, you'll be fine. I'd just be extra safe and use electrical tape like I did in the picture.

 

Here is a poorly lit example -

 

Too much paste on those inductors there which also should not be using paste at all but a pad

 

Weirdly enough that paste made 0 contact with the heatsink. Point was to bring the gap down to as little as possible. End of the day they dont really need as much cooling as the MOSFETs.

 

Take a LOOK

 

Jesus he messed up bad.
First and major mistake. Assuming that that GPU shroud will protect against LM.
There are a lot of components under that shroud.

 

I cry when I see something like this. @Donald@HIDevolution and HID don't put liquid metal on the GPU, even they are good with it and do it corect. The Customers will try to do exactly the same as the reseller when they re-paste. And let the reseller take the blame if they screew up.

 

There is a reason they dont do it.
The only way to use Liquid Metal with GPU's and be safe is to remove the default shroud, cover with electrical tape and then use a shim.