Does anyone have CLEVO with HD5870 ?

Here are the benchmarks as promised, the Crysis scores looks wierd to me, and I would like to note that Crysis was enjoyably playable. and I didnt see any sections were it dropped out and became stuttery.

Batman AA 1920x1080 No AA - All High and Physx Max:

Min: 22
Avg: 39
Max: 53

Crysis 1920x1080 No AA - All High

Min:0
Avg: 25.2
Max: 172

 

Clevo has the 5870 driver on there site so it sure is a done deal now

 

LG is shipping a 15" OLED screen in 2010 (mass production) that's going to cost $2700 @ launch. Wouldn't you laugh if the OLED was a checkbox but the additional cost of a 17" OLED was $3500? hehe

There is word that a mobile Fermi derivative will come in June-Q3...
http://twisted-reviews.com/nvidia-is-going-to-use-optimus-with-all-new-mobile-fermi/

While I would chock this up to the rumour machine at work, it mentions the TDP (and mentions it's pretty high). That got some attention. Anyway, now you know.

Too many problems with the ATI cards for me. ATI seems to be an eternal story of "don't worry it'll get fixed in the next driver" of some bug or another. I don't think the green side is all roses. Just in what I've read it may not be as fast, but it's far more likely to just run, which has a lot of weight with me. DX11 however is a major shift and worth having. So Nvidia better get with that in the mobile program or I'll be eating my hat and getting CF 5870's anyway, risk or not

 

That news was posted on February 11th. Hopefully it stays accurate to the end of this week. Mobile Fermi would be a deal pleaser. Filling the GTX 380M moniker with a Fermi based mobile GPU, then called GTX 480M, will be the MR 5870's demise. This goes well with the announced launch date of the desktop GTX 480.

 

If that 100W rumor is true, it won't work with any MXM 3.0b system will it? I'm thinking 75W max like current top end nVidia solutions. Remember I told ya over steam I was expecting mobile fermi by June? Hopefully that holds true. nVidia has to use those bad bins of desktop cards and a mobile solution would be the perfect place.

 

100W is a lot of power. I'd be p*ssed off if Nvidia couldn't keep it low.

 

For a while there, I was annoyed with nvidia and was planning on only buying Ati's. I've been looking at the mr 5870's a lot. But now that I realize just how cpu dependent Ati's are, I actually prefer nvidia. I find it crazy that I can run games better with a T5750 and an 8600m gt than I can with a T6600 and 3670.

I hope this wait is worth it, the wait for i7 definitely was.

@FXi... Maybe I'll just get a 120hz lcd. I'm willing to pay what I thought was a lot for an oled screen, but right now waiting this out sounds like a grand idea. I could always just buy an oled screen instead of a new laptop and nail it to the wall.

 

any idea if it will be available for the D900F too ???

and how much is the card ???

 

the mobile 5 series rely s less then the 3-4 series cards. They are VERY independent this generation

 

It will work, the MXM 3.0 can provide power up to 100W.

 

Wonder if the cooling solutions in the current Clevo's are up the task though..

 

Well that's a whole different story....

The D900F should be up for the task but I am not sure about the others, might require a bit of redesign. Anyway, the top end Fermi should be 100W, I am sure there will be 60 and 75W versions as well.

 

Well.. I think I've waited long enough (been holding off this purchase for a long ing time now), so. I'm getting tired of it; the 5870 is looking food to me

Will see how it goes; won't do anything till after CeBit anyways, so.

EDIT: however, it never hurts to be curious; How long has the MXM 3.0b (that the w870 has) been out? As in, what are the chances that the mobile fermi will be using it, over say.. I don't know.. MXM 4.0 (if it even exists..)...

 

In the same boat. I bought the G73 and both my brother and I had issues with ours so that is a no go. I am going to wait until Cebit wraps up then place an order for a 870CU and be done with it.

 

The MXM 3.0 has been around for less than a year now. It was introduced in summer 2009 and was expected to last as a standard for at least 3 years.

I am not sure however if it will need an update to utilise PCIe 3.0. Sandy Bridge chipsets are coming with PCIe 3.0.

 

The MR5870 chewed through any game I played with it on the G73.

VERY good mobile card. I am snatching one up for my W870 as soon as RJ puts them up on the site to purchase seperately.

Fermi may or may not be better. I know everyone is excited but when it comes to nvidia's mobile GPUs? Well, it needs to be shown to me that it will perform better without burning a hole through my leg

With a 100W card, it better be EQUAL to or faster than a CF 5870 setup.

 

I'm not sure that's fair, Sleey0 Equal or faster than CF 5870 seems.. highly unlikely.

If we're unlucky though, the "new" 300 series high-end cards (not the low end, we already know they're just old cards) will be respinned old cards as well.. As for the mobile GTX400 series..
Eh, well.. Seeing as the desktop 480 is EXPECTED to land roughly 10% ahead of the desktop 5870, assuming that the mobile version of only 100W (compared to desktop ish ~300W) will be equal to the desktop 5870 (800 streams * 2, not that simple; I know. But still.) is a .. well Unlikely in my book.

That's just me though

 

Well, if a mobile card is going to need that much juice from my system, it better be worth it and perform up to that requirement.

Otherwise, what's the point?
I will stick to the cool running and very power/heat friendly 5870

And CF and SLi doesn't magically double performance if that's what you are getting at.

 

Oh, no; CF/Sli is not the same as 2*the performance.

I was merely thinking how the imho "butchered" fermi core we're getting for the mobile market will not compare to the desktop variants. (I'm just assuming this.. but.. Come on, it's not just me thinking this, right? )

Tbh I'm still a bit bummered about the MR 5870 only having 800 spu's, I mean.. If they'd gone the way of the desktop 5830 (1200 spu's I think?) instead of the 5770 I would be a lot happier.

But wth, it's still a good gpu so

EDIT: wth isn't censored \o/

 

Well, in that same thought I would have liked 1200 sp's with GDDR5 running on a 256-bit bus lol

But, we all know that mobile GPU's are watered down because there isn't much pressure or reason for Ati and nvidia to produce better mobile parts.

 

Damn them all!

On another note, I just .. checked eBay, and well. Found the 920XM for USD 600 w. free shipping (Compared to the USD 1100 from rjtech),

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Intel-Core-i7-920XM-Processor-2-0GHz-8m-1333_W0QQitemZ250590188854QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs?hash=item3a5856d536#ht_6174wt_2275

Seems legit, and I really don't want an ES cpu That would be a bummer. What do you think?

EDIT: Snap, just saw that it was the ES version.. Bummer-all!

 

If it's 100W but can yield 80% of the speed of xfire 5870, it would be a very viable alternative. A single solution that is nearly as fast as xfire is always preferable. Maybe the 75W version in SLi will top the 5870s in xfire. There is always that issue of power consumption though and given how much power the M17x already drains, I think nVidia will be out of the question.

 

FWIW, I have heard that the next iteration of the M17x will have a very large PSU.

Think almost double

 

Unless it has an RGB LED display, I won't be interested. When I was at AW HQ the engineer I spoke with did tell me their next notebook would blow me away so I'm expecting good things from them. I just hope it's not plastic because it seems he was hinting that AW is headed in that direction.

 

yeah but that may also mean something more portable.

 

ATi 5870 now available on the Sager NP8690 and NP8760. ETA 3/5

 

I'd be happy with a magnesium based design like the M15x to be honest. A 100% plastic design isn't something I'd be happy with. It's part of the reason I ditched my Clevo.

 

Justin, do you know if the 5870m has the crossfire connector? I wish you guys would sell spare parts like RJTech.

 

I am checking into the Crossfire connection right now and will post a update once I get the confirmation.

 

Justin let us know if we could get 2 5870s on any of the 17/18 inch Sagers anytime soon

 

No, it's just that it'll have such huge fans...

 

Yah believe me, cuz if they do i will definitely be buying one from Xoticpc if they do...... in a heartbeat.

 

I wish 2 would fit in the 8760 but probably only the 9280/8120 would be big enough for the those monsters

 

OMG JUSTIN!

You just made my day <3!!!

Going to place an order today/tomorrow

Also.. What is the point of the 30 day pixel guarantee warranty? I mean, supposedly I could just return the whole lappie based on the "Total satisfaction guarantee" if I found any dead pixels....???

Or am I out taking a hike on this one?

 

If you only knew.....

Side note my 8760 should be ordered by friday just waiting for the Stock and yea... I will have it next week

 

Seems we are all jumping to different systems together

 

Jumping to different systems? You swapping out yours as well? or just ordering a new gpu?

 

Well, moo, quad, and I all went from M17x --> G73 --> now the W870

I think drake was debating getting rid of his G73 but changed his mind.

 

Why'd you all leave the g73??

 

Let's just say there are some reliability issues that scared us a little.

 

In other words, the G73 sucked.

 

No, it was prob the best system I have owned for the price point.

It just seems it was a REAL crapshoot with getting a good system. Normally that would not scare me away, but Asus doesn't have parts to fix them yet. So even with a great warranty you'll still be without a system for weeks.

I say when the market is flooded with them, then yeah it will be a good buy.

 

Mind explaining this a bit?

The spam filled Owner's Lounge is difficult to read. Almost as bad as the Alienware forum.

 

I have enough parts that I can get away with just buying the base system from RJTech. For benchmarking purposes the G73 will still be the better system so I haven't bothered.

 

No one commented on my benchmark scores ? Need clarification on the Crysis ones they look a little suspect. Ty Sorry for double posting and such.

RE GPU's: Hope what ever the new Nvidia is it is compatible with the 8690 and other MXM 3.0 slots. However the 5870 is the best card out there atm so makes scence to grab one if its an option. Personally I was to early with my purchase and got the 285M so I will be waiting for Nvidia's reply im hoping in the long run it will be beneficially as I haven't payed the extra (if any) for the ATI 5870. And that the new Nvidia series will beat the socks off it.

 

Eh, I wouldn't pay ~$500 for the 5870, if I'm holding a 285M.

 

You don't know how happy I am right now!!!!!! I have been waiting for this specific upgrade to ANY of the Sager or Alienware laptops (15 inch only) for like 2 months now! Looks like I am finally getting my new laptop. I've heard good things about XoticPC so I think I will order from there.

 

Funny thing is, the 5870 is USD 55 less than the 285 when customizing

Makes sense? Not one damned bit <<

But I'm not complaining

 

When the new Nvidia card is available in a few months in the summer and tickles my fancy, I might pick it up. For sure the next generation card will work in the current notebook lineup. All questions have been addressed and the only ones left are what will this new card be and when it will come out. Later tonight I'm going to open up the BIOS and see if Clevo dumped any new microcodes that may hint towards a new card.

 

That's really good to know, thanks Moo. If only Dell had a 1640 motherboard with a MR 58x0 . Knowing that 5xxx cards are that much better is a relief.